DWC Tomato Plant Problems!!!! Please Help!!!

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RoguePlant

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My DWC tomato plant is having some issues, just look....

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Root Rot DAMN YOU!!!!!:spew: It's one of the worst smells!!!!

I know it's my own fault for using MG Water soluble ferts in a dwc, but its all I have access to right now. Is my plant gonna die, should I just cut it down, and wait till I can get some hydro nutes?
It's showing new growth, but after a day or so it starts to wilt, but new white roots are starting to show...????
also I dumped out the nute water and replaced with reg P.Hed water.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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looks like erly blight? its a disease that likes moisture

& just for future reference water soluble nutes don't mean they can be used in hydro.

All MG fertilizers i have seen are just colored chickenshit. You still need the enzymes & bacteria in the dirt to break-it down into a form usable by plants
 
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RyanTheRhino said:
looks like erly blight? its a disease that likes moisture

& just for future reference water soluble nutes don't mean they can be used in hydro.

All MG fertilizers i have seen are just colored chickenshit. You still need the enzymes & bacteria in the dirt to break-it down into a form usable by plants
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I know water soluble ferts are no good for dwc hydro...thats why I said that I'm just going to cut it down....I know it wont survive until I get to a hydro store.....thanx for your input / BTW I'm not being sarcastic, I'm glad you have some idea of the disease, it will be something new for me to research, Thanx again, and Happy growing!!
 
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Also, the stem is turning black at the base / I dont know if that matters at this point, but I thought I might mention it.

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Toolage 87

Toolage 87

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1 - Can you show us a pic of the air stone you have in your DWC system?
2 - How big is the tub for your DWC system?
3 - I use Water Soluble 20-20-20 plant food with no problems before.
4 - What is that material that your using as the medium? It looks like its some thing that holds water in and if it is that is very bad. Also you don't want the water to be at the top or very close to the top of your netpot because that can cause problems.
5 - Are you putting the plant food ontop of the medium that is holding the plant down because that's what it looks like you are doing and if you are that might be the problem. When using water soluble nutes you need to completely devolve it into the water.
 
missnu

missnu

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I just started my first tomato clone...it is in hydro...we'll see how it goes...no food yet...Might have to add some for the other already rooted plants in the cloner...
Decided to just try and see what I can successfully clone
 
missnu

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I also have to question if this is a DWC why is the blue stuff all about the top of your perlite? Or is this like hempy drain to waste, using only perlite?
 
Toolage 87

Toolage 87

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missnu said:
I also have to question if this is a DWC why is the blue stuff all about the top of your perlite? Or is this like hempy drain to waste, using only perlite?
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That's what I asked him. It sort of looks like plant food that was sprinkled ontop and not dissolved into the water then given to the plant
 
missnu

missnu

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Yes, yes it does appear that way..
If that is in fact the issue, then I feel like you should take those out and just read some more about growing plants, and then try again perhaps?
Seems like an odd spot to go wrong...
 
Toolage 87

Toolage 87

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Well also it might be caused by him possably having his water levels in his res really high that its causing that problem.
 
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RoguePlant

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Toolage 87 said:
1 - Can you show us a pic of the air stone you have in your DWC system?
2 - How big is the tub for your DWC system?
3 - I use Water Soluble 20-20-20 plant food with no problems before.
4 - What is that material that your using as the medium? It looks like its some thing that holds water in and if it is that is very bad. Also you don't want the water to be at the top or very close to the top of your netpot because that can cause problems.
5 - Are you putting the plant food ontop of the medium that is holding the plant down because that's what it looks like you are doing and if you are that might be the problem. When using water soluble nutes you need to completely devolve it into the water.
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The medium is MG Perlite, and the reason the top is blue, is because I had the water level too high when I added the nutes, and it soaked the perlite, I tried changing the perlite out but it's soaked into the whole netpot, if I removed it all I most likely would have killed the plant, so either way I'm screwed....... I couldn't get a good pic of the stone but it's a 12inch Anchor Stone, here is a stock photo. As for the feeding method, I mix it with ph water then add, it's half strength for 1 gallon ( so it shouldn't be that strong???? ) I dont top feed.

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missnu

missnu

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Hmm...well that is what is wrong with them then...they are overfed...that perlite is coated in ferts is it not?...so you have nuted perlite with more nutes added...it's no bueno...you really shouldn't use MG perlite for this sort of thing....and it is easy to remove most of the perlite in this sort of application..just take the net pot and turn it upside down and then shake it about a bit...of course do this while holding your plant stalk and the net pot so as to not just drop the whole thing...anyway most of the perlite will fall out and then you can add back in some clean, not nuted kind.
 
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Well after doing some reading, and a little cleaning of house so to speak, this is what she looks like now.

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So what I got from reading a couple articles was, I had three options, #1. Go out and buy some expensive products that have about a 50% chance of not working, #2. Remove affected foliage, roots, and medium with 50% chance of not working, #3 Do nothing and continue to watch plant die 100%, so I opted for option #2, this is the result, I'll keep this thread updated on any progress.
 
Toolage 87

Toolage 87

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Here are 2 things that I would do...

1 - Change that air stick to this kind/shape of air stone instead. ecoairdisc6.png I use to use those stick ones but find that they didn't work as well compared to one of these ones.
2 - You should be using clay pellets for DWC.
3 - You can always take a cutting off your tomato plant and root that cutting and doing it up with better gear that I have listed.
 
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RoguePlant

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Toolage 87 said:
Here are 2 things that I would do...

1 - Change that air stick to this kind/shape of air stone instead. View attachment 2251511 I use to use those stick ones but find that they didn't work as well compared to one of these ones.
2 - You should be using clay pellets for DWC.
3 - You can always take a cutting off your tomato plant and root that cutting and doing it up with better gear that I have listed.
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I tried those kinda stones at first, but they kept floating to the top and side ( I tried using suction cups, but they didn't work ) I guess I could hot glue it.....I'll get some hydroton next time I go to a grow shop.....+ nutes
 
missnu

missnu

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Toolage 87 said:
Here are 2 things that I would do...

1 - Change that air stick to this kind/shape of air stone instead. View attachment 2251511 I use to use those stick ones but find that they didn't work as well compared to one of these ones.
2 - You should be using clay pellets for DWC.
3 - You can always take a cutting off your tomato plant and root that cutting and doing it up with better gear that I have listed.
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Hydro is hard, and DWC seems to be one of the most finicky...I tried it and failed...
There is no need to switch from the perlite to clay pellets, but you are killing them with ferts...
Using perlite with nutes in it is almost never a good thing...I guess you could wash the crap out of it and then try using it...Hydroton is awful too though...they start to hold calcium after awhile and it can throw everything off...
I say stick with the perlite, but find some regular good old fashioned inert perlite.
 
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