Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

homebrewer

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i was using tetra flora and change over to AN for about $700 after about 2 months i didnt see a HUGE difference so i tookem up on there 100% money back guerntee got my mony back n spent about 175 on dyna gro. been using that for like a month and it seems to be doing as good as AN fk spending all that money on something that i can get the same result from a quarter of the price!!!
I was going to return my Connoisseur bottles but I lost the damned receipt :( Over here it's not quite as easy as a simple return and refund, there is some paperwork involved and they ask questions as to if you followed the recommend schedule and what else was being used during the grow. There seems to be a disconnect between the refund policy that AN's customer service speaks of and what actually occurs in the stores.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
yah I ran into the same issue with my AN nute return but thanks to knowing the store owner I got through all the red tape
 

jesicalorren

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same here they asked me some things and i was doing things right i just wasnt impressed but ya thats the only good thing i can say about AN .. they gave me my money back lol
 

asilsweater

Active Member
Home brewer,i want to thank u,for giving me the idea to run dyna grow,it rocks,it out performing my old fox farm line in veg,simply put im done with ff in veg,havent flipped yet but will run ff bloom on one side and ur dg recipe on other!thanks to everybody else on this thread whos contributing to da good info we as growers need and deserve!!
 

KingIV20

Active Member
Good work with your genetic experimentation Hb! I have no doubt that whatever comes out of the Homebrewed Labs will be nothing but the best connoisseur strain(s) humanly possible. Keep it clean and green.
:leaf:king:leaf:
 
Hey im about to order some nutrients for my first DWC, what kind of DynaGro are you referring to in this guide?? There are different ones such as 7-9-5 ect.
 

homebrewer

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Hey im about to order some nutrients for my first DWC, what kind of DynaGro are you referring to in this guide?? There are different ones such as 7-9-5 ect.
The DG plants were grown with bloom (3-12-6), grow (7-9-5), Protekt (0-0-3) and Magpro (2-15-4) but the only ones that are needed are grow and bloom. I don't use magpro in the dirt and it's really intended for people who use RO water. I actually rarely use protekt in the dirt but will occasionally on my 'water' days.
 

homebrewer

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Just wanted to post a few pics of things I've got going on at the moment.

A young Kali Mist. The aroma is sweet like candied lavendar with some spice:



My own strain day 49 (nameless at the moment). She smells like skunky blueberries:



...some pheno variation in the nameless strain, also day 49. This one is pungent, less fruity, more fuel and skunk:

 

711grower

Active Member
Homebrewer have you ever used dyna gro in coco ? If so was cal mag supplmentation necessary ? Anyone can chime in aswell. Thanks
 

Declectic

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Homebrewer have you ever used dyna gro in coco ? If so was cal mag supplmentation necessary ? Anyone can chime in aswell. Thanks
In one of HB's other threads, found this:

The points you brought up about coco are true but definitely over emphasized in the indoor gardening world. The levels of Potassium and Sulfur that are present in high quality coco are not as high as people are lead to believe, or atleast not high enough to warrant a massive shift it nutrient composition. The concept that you need to use a coco specific nutrient is mostly just another clever way for companies to sell more nutrients. In my opinion, the potassium and sulfur levels present in coco are less of a concern than the tendency for it to "hold onto" calcium and magnesium, but even this problem is rare and easily remedied. Long story short, Dyna-Gro is designed to work well in coco so you don't have to worry about a coco specific formula. I myself am mainly a coco grower and I designed our drain to waste feeding chart to work with coco. I do recommend giving the plants a flush once a month and I recommend that you feed at a pH of 5.8 with Grow and 6.0 with Bloom. The higher pH is to account for the elevated phosphorous levels found in Bloom and Mag-Pro.
We don't currently have any beneficial microorganism products but we will have a liquid based bacillus product coming out shortly. Our product will have 5 different strains of bacillus that will improve nutrient uptake and decrease fertilizer requirements. In the meantime, using something like Great White is a good idea. I also recommend using a little bit of a sweetener to give the beneficials another food source. I personally use a sweetener and a sea kelp product in addition to my Dyna-Gro and beneficials. I think you are getting the best of both worlds this way (organic and mineral based)

Foliage-Pro is definitely a great formula. It can be used the whole way through flowering but I personally find that it results in a leafier end product. During vegetative growth, however, Foliage-Pro is an excellent formula and the 3-1-2 ratio is quite exceptional, as you mentioned. The only advantage to using Grow is that it is slightly higher in a couple of micronutrients and you have less potential for nitrogen toxicity. Foliage-Pro is quite high in Nitrogen and some people over-do the nitrogen without realizing it. Sometimes people won't realize they are using too much Nitrogen because the main symptom is excessively green foliage. Most people think that the darker green foliage actually means a healthier plant. Then, when they go to transition to flower, they notice that the transition time is slow and blame it on the nutrients, not realizing that they simply over did the N which delayed their transition. Therefore, I often recommend Grow because it is a little easier to work with but as long as you don't over feed, Foliage-Pro should give you very impressive results and the switch to Bloom will give you a very rapid transition.
—*link: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/358562-dyna-gro-vs-general-hydroponics-17.html
 

Short Bus

Active Member
I used DG in coco for a while with great results. 2 things to bear in mind: Coco prefers a slightly lower pH than peat mixes, around 5.9-6, and if you see any deficiencies show up, it's more likely lockout than genuine deficiency so flush before trying to correct with nutes.
 
I remember you saying that you top in veg and then fim in flower to form a nice bushy even canopy. How tall do you let the clones get before you top? And do you fim them first week of flower?
 

homebrewer

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I remember you saying that you top in veg and then fim in flower to form a nice bushy even canopy. How tall do you let the clones get before you top? And do you fim them first week of flower?
I top in veg at about the 6th node then supercrop in flower for an even canopy. The clones are usually about 5-6inches tall when I top in veg.
 

KingIV20

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Good to know Homebrewer, you don't find supercropping while in flower to be a burden on the plants at all? I mean, obviously you get amazing results as it is, but I just wouldn't even have the balls to try something like that while they're flowering.
 

homebrewer

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Good to know Homebrewer, you don't find supercropping while in flower to be a burden on the plants at all? I mean, obviously you get amazing results as it is, but I just wouldn't even have the balls to try something like that while they're flowering.
As I'm sure you know, hydro plants grow so friggen fast, like up to inches per day. Supercropping a fast growing plant like that means that it only takes 24 hours or so before the supercropped growth shoot has healed and is growing back towards the light. In the mean time, the lower branches are able to catch up to the top of the plant which evens out the canopy. I'll do this up to about week 3 because with my traditional set up of the stationary, overhead lights, proper canopy management can really improve yields.
 

KingIV20

Active Member
As I'm sure you know, hydro plants grow so friggen fast, like up to inches per day. Supercropping a fast growing plant like that means that it only takes 24 hours or so before the supercropped growth shoot has healed and is growing back towards the light. In the mean time, the lower branches are able to catch up to the top of the plant which evens out the canopy. I'll do this up to about week 3 because with my traditional set up of the stationary, overhead lights, proper canopy management can really improve yields.
Impressive. I'll certainly take note of that
 

nicedreamz

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HB- Been following for a long time, very inspiring. I want to try out the set up you're running and i have a few questions for you if it's ok?

Are you still running this feed schedule?
Transition (1250ppm for 2-3 weeks):
Grow 3.5
Bloom 5
ProTekt 5
MagPro 1.5

Bloom (1350 ppm for 4-5 weeks):
Grow 2.5
Bloom 7.5
ProTekt 5
MagPro 1.5

Ripen (1250ppm for 1-2 week):
Grow 0
Bloom 10.5
ProTekt 5
MagPro 0

Also i can't seem to find how you're feeding for veg? I will be starting with baby clones under a 1k hps, Using the 6in rock wool as well. Do you have a mat under the cubes or do they just sit in the tray? Oh and are you using the floralicious and the sweet still? Thank you so much!! Glad my first post was in such an informative thread
 
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