Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

homebrewer

homebrewer

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DaGrapeApe said:
I went out at bought the small bottle of the Dyna Grow Bloom, the local store didn't have the pro-tekt in stock. Forgive my newbieness but what exactly is the pro-tekt for? Why do i need it?
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ProTekt is a silicon additive which strengthens stems and cell walls. I've noticed that my hydro trays are less susceptible to mites when using Protekt as it seems to add another level of defense against those critters. Silicon also helps the plants deal with heat and drought stress. It's the same price as Silica Blast from Botanicare but has 4 times the amount of silicon. Even if I didn't like the DG nutes, I would still use this product.
 
DaveCoulier

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homebrewer said:
ProTekt is a silicon additive which strengthens stems and cell walls. I've noticed that my hydro trays are less susceptible to mites when using Protekt as it seems to add another level of defense against those critters. Silicon also helps the plants deal with heat and drought stress. It's the same price as Silica Blast from Botanicare but has 4 times the amount of silicon. Even if I didn't like the DG nutes, I would still use this product.
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Have you noticed a extra girth in the trunks and branches? I had been using only Azomite to supply silicon, and it works great at 2.5 tbls/gallon. Its lead to the thickest trunks and branches of any plants I have ever grown. Ive started to use Pro-tekt as well now, and hoping to see even greater results.
 
homebrewer

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DaveCoulier said:
Have you noticed a extra girth in the trunks and branches? I had been using only Azomite to supply silicon, and it works great at 2.5 tbls/gallon. Its lead to the thickest trunks and branches of any plants I have ever grown. Ive started to use Pro-tekt as well now, and hoping to see even greater results.
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I've been using Protekt for several months now (just finished my first gallon) so it's hard to rememeber how my branches were before I started using it. I know the plants are more sturdy late in flower and I don't get quite as much branch snapping under the weight of the buds, but it still happens a little. The spider mite resistence has greatly improved and that's why I really like this silicon product.
 
shnkrmn

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I agree about the mite resistance. The plants I cut in late August had no sign of mites (I thought) except one plant had a small colony confined to a single node on the main trunk. I never saw the leaf damage (minor) until I cut the tops down. There were very few of them, and very few eggs or juveniles. They were just kind of hunkering down trying to survive instead of spreading out and taking over. I used no chemicals on that run.

Yes, the plants get sturdier too.
 
DaGrapeApe

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Had to order the pro tekt from my friends store. Grabbed one of my larger trainwreck clones and added the bloom formula straight and a little floralicious plus. PH went right to 5.8 with my tapwater and NO ph down, badass. Hoping for some good results :)
 
homebrewer

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The product is good and dry and I was able to get some final yield numbers this morning. The AK47 that was grown with less than 50 cents worth of DynaGro fertilizer yielded 2.39 ounces or 67 grams. This was one of nine plants under a 600watt hortilux hps and again, this yield on my first run exceeds my average by about 15% (2 ounce average per plant when running 9 plants). I'd be happy to post a smoke report but based on my previous runs with DG in my hydro trays, it's safe to say the final product is going to be every bit as good as the product grown with Botanicare pure blend. I've just run out of Botanicare bloom formula and will not purchasing more. DG is just too easy and too cheap to not use in the dirt.


Finished plant:



Finished product:




 
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Illumination

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Yes DG is awesome in dirt as well....so very easy isn't it? And forgiving as well

Great job my friend....looks awesome as always

Thanx for the knowledge

Namaste':leaf:
 
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bob stine

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homebrewer thanks for all this man....i'm using dyna-gro grow bloom some cal-mg(2% kind) and am no using pro-tek based on what you've said....i really like the protekt just because of the fact you'll never need ph-up again if everything is mixed right...currently i'm using 1 1/2 TBS protekt--1 TBS cal-mg---1TBS grow---1 TBS of bloom...it ph's perfect with this regime (i use R/o water) my municipal has 330 ppm from the go so...but anyways thanks man i might start using the floralicious plus i just dont like how GH doesnt really reveal whats totally in it...ps i only use dyna-gro bloom + cal-mg for tomatoes for years works great
 
BrandonT

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ill have to say homebrewer thats some unreal looking buds, im thinking on starting six more plants in SOIL! except one question; im ordering some fox farm soil and i already have all these nutrients from my hydroponics

flora plus
GH bloom
GH grow
GH micro
botanicare sweet
flora blend

im wondering if i can also use these or what i should use for a soil grow; or do you reccomend buying a whole new line of nutes just for soil
thankss
 
frogster

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Thx Homebrew... Im on my first grow (30pot ebb&gr)and have just been using Floranova bloom (lucas) only,,, But I like some of the advantages you listed (ph stability, pest protection etc)with the dyna products. My local hydro shop guy choked when I mentioned DG, but I believe they have an assortment of newer formulas that he wasn't familiar with. Even after reading your post several times I am trying to get a grasp on your specific product and schedule times and amounts for each product (hydro).. But as you said, each strain is a little different. I will keep reading this over and over till I get it. Please check on my journal and make comments. Much appreciated, Frogster
 
homebrewer

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frogster said:
Thx Homebrew... Im on my first grow (30pot ebb&gr)and have just been using Floranova bloom (lucas) only,,, But I like some of the advantages you listed (ph stability, pest protection etc)with the dyna products. My local hydro shop guy choked when I mentioned DG, but I believe they have an assortment of newer formulas that he wasn't familiar with. Even after reading your post several times I am trying to get a grasp on your specific product and schedule times and amounts for each product (hydro).. But as you said, each strain is a little different. I will keep reading this over and over till I get it. Please check on my journal and make comments. Much appreciated, Frogster
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The products I used are listed in post #1 of this thread and I later added grow (7-9-5). I feed at 1.5-2 EC depending on strain and mix the grow and bloom in flower. I use 5mls of protekt and 1ml of magpro per gallon, then with the remaining ppms, I split between the grow and the bloom. At the most I'll go 50/50 but at mid and late stages of flower, the plants don't need that much N so I scale back the grow formula. My grow store guys were surprised when I asked them to order gallons of all of these products, but that just goes to show that your grow store employees are as dumb as mine ;).
 
DaGrapeApe

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Started Feeding my plants in my grow some Dynagrow bloom. I started at the beginning of week 4. I've grown clones of this plant out two other times. I noticed a HUGE increase in bud size and resin production. There was no way I would have seen that using the Floranova Bloom + KoolBloom + Floralicious Plus that I'd used on the previous attempts. I was skeptical and just from what I saw on my last grow vs this one I'm VERY impressed.
 
frogster

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I want to switch to dynagrow for my bloom, Im using gh for my veg.. Guy at hydro store said stick with one company as switching may change up the type of chems .. and the plants would prob. freak out... Opinions on this theory? As of now I was planning on using the floranova bloom,,,
 
DaGrapeApe

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I don't think that theory holds much water. I'm no professional, but I'd think that plants would basically need some essential nutrients and I don't think they'd give a damn as to where they're coming from. As long as they're getting them, they're happy.
 
bassman999

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homebrewer said:
This isn’t literally a GH/DynaGro face off, but it is a test to see if a complete nutrient line from DynaGro can compete with the results I get from my GH products. I’ll be using three DynaGro products; their Bloom formula (3-12-6), Mag-pro (2-15-4) and Pro-Tekt (0-0-3) and using them in the ratios suggested in their feeding schedule. Currently I use 7 different products from GH when my plants are in flower and I really like the idea of simplifying the whole process. While those seven GH products perform extremely well and are reasonably priced ($70/grow), DynaGro would be half the price and half the bottles. I’ll be drawing a lot of comparisons between GH and DynaGro throughout this grow in regards to pH stability, salt build up, plant performance, plant health, etc.

I’ll be growing a strain that is legendary back in Ohio called Dumpster (for more info on Dumpster: http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Dumpster/Clone_Only_Strains/) which I’ve grown dozens of times with my GH line. I have lots of photos and detailed notes from previous grows, these will be the basis for a lot of my comparisons.

My setup is a DIY Ebb & Flow system with 6 inch rockwool cubes and a 600 watt HPS hortilux. I flood twice per day for 15 minutes. These plants were topped in veg and get supercropped until week 3 in flower. Let the contest begin!

***These plants were vegged with GH veg nutes.

EDIT: I should add that this experiment is for the blooming phase only and the six ladies below are going into their 1st full day of flower today. It's a 60 day strain.
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I wanted to know how long did you veg them? Also I cant believe you fit all that into a 2'x3' tray, and I love the string to hold them up!!
 
DaGrapeApe

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If anyone is interested, check out my grow journal. I switched to Dyna Grow Bloom and Grow Formulas. Nice difference.
 
burrr

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DaveCoulier said:
Have you noticed a extra girth in the trunks and branches? I had been using only Azomite to supply silicon, and it works great at 2.5 tbls/gallon. Its lead to the thickest trunks and branches of any plants I have ever grown. Ive started to use Pro-tekt as well now, and hoping to see even greater results.
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Check out this newly rooted clone, she's been getting 2.5 mls of protect per gal


I wonder if the silica was a significant factor in homebrewers increased yield while using dynagro.
I don't believe that anything in your GH nutes supplied silica, but they probably had everything else that the dyna grow had.
 
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