Ecstasy & Foxy Methoxy. When Too Much Pleasure is a Bad Thing!

ndangerspecimen101

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It's a lazy Tuesday night. Mind is clear and tensions run light. I feel its time I embrace in the "sand swept" pleasures. I'm about to retell an anecdote of pleasure, pain, and shear torment and how everything revolves around the concept of drug harm reduction.

(Please put on your reading glasses and set aside a nice scotch and enjoy...)

Quarter to 1am...Dabbed some Rizla Paper with 235mg's of Sand.

Oh bitter sweet sorrow. That's was a punch to the stomach. Luckily had some apple juice with that, otherwise things wouldn't have gone that smoothly.

Felt the tingles once the MDMA hit my stomach.

T+15- My stomach has already grown tight and theres a permanent grin shadowing my face. I'm surprised things are already taking off in a stimulative sort of way.

T+30- Dude... Crazy. I'm already coming up. Warmth is circumventing my body and getting that "Oh I need to catch my breathe" feeling. For instant absorption, Rizla Paper is the way to go!

T+1HR- I'm In & Out of Paradise. This stuff is Ultra potent. For not dosing in nearly a year perhaps I should of dubbed down the dosage. This Cone of Silence is amazing. (Although theres something visual that makes this interesting)

T+2HR- Afraid the Molly has been tampered with. Weird, body sensations (mainly in torso area) not akin to MDMA. I feel like my body is buzzing in a tryptamine sort of way. I feel love but theres a dominant stimulant effect which keeps hampering the effects of MDMA to fully take course. There is certainly a psychedelic element to this MDMA's profile! Definitely spiked with a phenethylamine!

T+3HR- At this stage, physically I'm going nuts. My body is dialed in at 102F and the locomotive in my head is in a very odd space. Feels very much like 2C-B. But I cannot be too sure. Lot of heavy torso feeling. The effects definitely took me off guard in a negative way. The experience was overtaken by this uncomfortable ENERGY.

T+4HR- A very irritating body buzz is still prominent. It comes and goes. Very weird. It's almost ghostly how this chemical won't wear off. It's like every limb in my body is like a magic wand of energy, a circuitry board of arousal that won't tame itself.

T+5HR- By this time I'm a bit exhausted. Stimulated. Still. I burp and still feel the chemical inside me. It's like my stomach is a stock exchange of energy. 2C-B would of wore off by now. Could this ghostly apparition be a tryptamine?

T+6HR- At this Hr. things are beginning to tamper off with residual energy still brimming. The torso element exhibits its way, very much like a tryptamine. Lot of secular energy that is off-putting. literally came up like (4) times. Each gaining in this weird stomach exhilaration. My stomach peristaltically playing different tunes as a dysfunctional, deflated accordion in B Minor.

T+7HR- All I want to do is sleep. But these stomach cramps got me more twisted then a girl who knows what her first period is like. Only if I was equipped with Etizolam or Ativan's. The mere carousel in my stomach will stop oscillating. Now I feel a bit like a crackhead. Wore out. Reporting from the Sand Dunes. Ndangerspecimen101 reporting!

After Effects: Slept soundly after the stimulating effects wore off. Woke up hungry and quite alert with NO residue of depression or fatigue. Quite contrary to what I expected after this recipe of intoxicating stimulation. A definite afterglow is present not akin to a regular dose of MDMA. The after effects were much more mind manifesting then the actual experience. The unknown chemical (5-MEO-DIPT) took my body on a rough ride, but left it intact without affecting other homeostatic processes.

Commentary: I never tried Foxy Methoxy (5-MEO-DIPT). But, I genuinely feel it was one of the other additives involved in the MDMA (Sand) profile. On some mushroom experiences I experience stomach cramping on the comedown, very much in relation to how this experience panned out. Perhaps, it was so harsh on my stomach due to ingesting it in Rizla Paper. The chemical came directly in contact with my stomach... no glucose or fructose additives to break down in the process (present in gel caps). During the first 2hrs a strong erotic component manifest itself in a zingy vibrance radiating throughout my limbs, and yes the tip of my shaft. As I close my eyes small puddles of colors in tones of green and red would snap parade, and resurface in the same patterns. The trip wasn't really a trip at all... just a surplus of energy that one could only shake off by running a marathon. The touchy smothering feelings of MDMA is enough for my liking, but adding an oddly infused tryptamine buzz sent me over the top. I have made up my mind. It's FOXY. I encountered excessive sweaty palms and feet. Chest tightness and muscle rigidity. LSD is sex. 2C-B is sex. 5-MEO-DIPT is an energy not willing to be tamed (Although, this was a substance used by a few Playboy Bunnies). Things might have not been this bad if I ingested the unknown subtance (5-MEO-DIPT) alone. But the synergy was too much.

For all those embarking on an unknown substance it's best to do your homework. The worst and last place you'd like to end up is the ER.
(Know your body, Know your substance)
 

canndo

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um.....yuck. I hate street drugs, why should someone else design my chemical expience for me and then.... not tell me what to exepect.
 

mightymiller

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good thing you know how to handle your shit bro! Ru sure it was foxy and not moxy? the dose scale on both are extremely small, and the effects are similar as im sure youre aware. ive not tasted the foxy but moxy is a delight (at the right dose). kinda difficult to figure out what youre preparing to eat with a regent test of any type and not many will wait to eat their treasure for a proper test. an allergy test wouldve went a long way towards preventing the problem you encountered. its obvious that you must have a great deal of trust in the originating source. that just goes to show you kids out there, you need to be careful even when youre getting your supplies from "good" friends. some sort of test is needed before you jump in head first. good luck and happy tracers :)
 

canndo

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Unless your friends make the stuff it is most likely that your good friends and reliable sources know as little about the substance as you do.
 

mightymiller

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Unless your friends make the stuff it is most likely that your good friends and reliable sources know as little about the substance as you do.
im sure that "friend" had a clue or two that he was going to have an experience thats not on par with molly. i probably have some of the same batch that he played with. the difference is the friend mine came from was up front about it. looks more like dirt then sand doesnt it n? passing shit off like that could cause very dire problems to those unaware :( whats the difference between a molly and moxy dose? ill tell you, about 90mg. moxy ive dosed at max 15mg which was plenty, molly i usually go for 150-200. im just happy he pulled thru without that er visit :)
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Unless your friends make the stuff it is most likely that your good friends and reliable sources know as little about the substance as you do.
Agreed.

No one knows exactly whats in a powder. I regent test the product and it turned black abruptly, indicating a strong MDXX like substance. However, the test kit wouldn't be able to pick up minuscule amounts of another chemical when the main chemical MDMA is overtaking the regents reaction. In addition, a few other friends tried the exact same batch which I kindly offered them, a week before my experience, and all of them loved it and asked for more in return. I seem to have an allergic reaction to the unknown substance (5-MEO-DIPT, 5-MEO-MIPT) and couldn't forgo the synergistic stimulation. The MDMA content in the Sand was very high and pure, however someone tried to be fancy, and probably added a few sprinkles of a stimulating tryptamine to add to the already empathogenic effects. The theme I'm trying to drive across to all of you is that you can't solely rely on a regent test kit. Test kits are a good way to determine if the compound is indeed MDMA, 2C-X, ETC., but it wouldn't indicate if its absolutely pure with other adulterants, as many additives can be active in the 1-5mg area, so small NOT to be picked up by the regents reaction. Whether it was FOXY or MOXY doesn't matter. Both retain the same profile as a stimulating tryptamine. Seems as though Erowid doesn't have a proper report indicating the effects of both MDMA and FOXY. I'll be submitting a report as a basis of my own subjective review. In addition, a sample will be sent off for GCMS as we can have an accurate portrayal of the chemicals profile. ;)
 

MrEDuck

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I've never mixed foxy and MDMA so I can't say if it sounds like a mix of the two, it doesn't sound like 2C-B and MDMA at all and that's one of my all time favorite cocktails.
Cutting anything with other actives and not being upfront about it should be punishable by a leopard worthy swift and merciless ass beating. I'm quite curious about the gc/ms results. You have a friend in industry or are you using a service like ecstasydata or pillreports?
 

ndangerspecimen101

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:lol:

You certainly are cut throat aren't you! A Reservoir Dogs type of merciless ass beating? ;)

Would agree. Tried 2C-B a few times in pill (Nexus Bee's) and powder form and absolutely loved it. The effects are both a phenethylamine type of buzz... so the pleasure would go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly (perfect fit). Have a few buddies who have access, but it depends if they currently have access to such machinery. If all else fails I'd submit to Ecstasy Data.

Next Question: How would one go about recrystallizing the Sand and removing the other additive (5-MEO-DIPT). I know I'm not certain of the compound being FOXY or MOXY. I'd sure as hell have a good hunch. I'm a good surveyor of chemicals! ;)
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Like to emphasize that my other fellow collaborators who partook of the molly insufflated the Sand, instead of orally ingesting it.

The information I gathered from Erowid and other various sites indicate that insufflated 5-MEO-DIPT or 5-MEO-MIPT is the preferred route of administration. The effects are shorten in duration and most important of all is that theres almost no sign of nausea or adominal cramping. It seems like the serotonergic acitivity may play a vital part on how those neurotransmitters effect the wave activity of adominal cramping. Certainly I ingested a large dose of MDMA but a considerably amount of stimulated tryptamine as well (mostly likely in the 4-6mg range). Since both compounds are highly serotonergic compounds affecting the 5HT2 receptors...most likely the adominal cramping... was exxacerbated by the synergistic effects. I experience only brief nausea on MDMA which subsides once the peak effects are reached, which indicates they're had to be another compound that inhibit an high affinity towards the 5HT2 receptors.
 

MrEDuck

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:lol:

You certainly are cut throat aren't you! A Reservoir Dogs type of merciless ass beating? ;)

Would agree. Tried 2C-B a few times in pill (Nexus Bee's) and powder form and absolutely loved it. The effects are both a phenethylamine type of buzz... so the pleasure would go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly (perfect fit). Have a few buddies who have access, but it depends if they currently have access to such machinery. If all else fails I'd submit to Ecstasy Data.

Next Question: How would one go about recrystallizing the Sand and removing the other additive (5-MEO-DIPT). I know I'm not certain of the compound being FOXY or MOXY. I'd sure as hell have a good hunch. I'm a good surveyor of chemicals! ;)
Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right here I am.
Selling adulterated shit to unknowing people is attempted murder in my book.
I'd try to find out what the adulterants is prior to recrystallizing the MDMA. MeOH to recrystallize or maybe acetone to wash are the first things spring to mind. When all else fails you have the option of chromatography. Although you migh have a problem of the MDMA enantiomers getting separated.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right here I am.
Selling adulterated shit to unknowing people is attempted murder in my book.
I'd try to find out what the adulterants is prior to recrystallizing the MDMA. MeOH to recrystallize or maybe acetone to wash are the first things spring to mind. When all else fails you have the option of chromatography. Although you migh have a problem of the MDMA enantiomers getting separated.
Yeah. Things like adulterations should be stated before hand. Things have gone sour in the past due to unkown variables. However, the guy means well and I have utmost respect for him... he was unsure himself when testing the product. Again, minuscule amounts of unknown product and a heap load of powerful pure MDMA. Its that simple. Someone did a sprinkling before the Sand hit the streets. Acetone has been attempted and stated that the Sand still contain trace amounts of the unknown product. The best bet willl to officially GCMS test product... thus picking the right solvents to conduct a proper extraction. However, since both compounds are psychoactive and not unreacted MDMA products, it'll be harder to conduct an extraction correct?
 

ndangerspecimen101

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My "Sand" Experience was submitted to Erowid under the psuedonym Ndangerspecimen101. Although it could take up to 6 months to be published. I know it'll be published without a doubt. I followed the format to the motherfucking "MG!"


I'm inspired!

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