electrical question , just making sure for piece of mind :)

Grow4tho187

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I know ohms law is watts/volts = amps , so this should be 9000/240 = 37.5 amps right ?
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Any body see anything that may not be right ?

I know I don't need a certified electrician for this 37.5 amps is 50% load of a 70 amp breaker .
 

ASMALLVOICE

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The math is correct, but having all that equipment plugged into a 70 amp breaker is offering no protection to the equipment being used, if 1 item goes bad, it can have all that amperage to use, to start one helluva fire. You show your heater plugged in first. A 5000watt heater on a 70 amp breaker, foolish to the utter most m8. Use that 70 amp breaker to power up a small sub panel and feed the equipment with properly sized breakers from the sub panel. . Plus, if you do have something trip, it will not take out your entire setup.

I would not construct your electrical feed in the manner you have drawn above, you are asking for a terrible fate.

Do not feed a device that pulls 12 amps on a breaker no larger than 20 amps, as you will have little to no protection if you do.

Peace and Safe Grows

Asmallvoice
 

Grow4tho187

Well-Known Member
The math is correct, but having all that equipment plugged into a 70 amp breaker is offering no protection to the equipment being used, if 1 item goes bad, it can have all that amperage to use, to start one helluva fire. You show your heater plugged in first. A 5000watt heater on a 70 amp breaker, foolish to the utter most m8. Use that 70 amp breaker to power up a small sub panel and feed the equipment with properly sized breakers from the sub panel. . Plus, if you do have something trip, it will not take out your entire setup.

I would not construct your electrical feed in the manner you have drawn above, you are asking for a terrible fate.

Do not feed a device that pulls 12 amps on a breaker no larger than 20 amps, as you will have little to no protection if you do.

Peace and Safe Grows

Asmallvoice


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Is this what you mean ?
Shouldn't I just place 2 x 30 amp breakers on the original board .... lol
 

ASMALLVOICE

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Is this what you mean ?
Shouldn't I just place 2 x 30 amp breakers on the original board .... lol
No, you are still leaving yourself open for danger, you want to keep the breaker sizes proper for the equipment served. Having equipment served by more than it can handle is a very serious risk indeed. If you lose 1 30amp breaker, your crop dies ( minimum damage) Let a ballast fail while on a 30amp cicuit and your home or life may be at risk. Instead, place 3or4 -20amp breakers and split the load between them so if 1 trips, it will not be so detrimental to the crop and will do it's job should an electrical failure occur. You still do not want a device that is rated under 20amps to be on a breaker larger than 20 amps, just a cardinal rule that must to be followed. Remember, electricity only dissiptes in one form, HEAT!!.

Go the sub panel route and split the load on multiple 20 amp breakers and you should do just fine. For added safety, place all incidental equipment that runs 24/7 like cicualtion fans, air pumps and the likes on a GFCI recepticle.

Peace and Safe Grows

Asmallvoice
 

Grow4tho187

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Ok so now I think it should be safe lol is this what u ment ?
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2000/240= 8.3 amps so 10 amp breakers on second board should be fine ?
5000/240=20.83 amps so 30 amp breaker should be fine also ?
 

ASMALLVOICE

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Ok so now I think it should be safe lol is this what u ment ?
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2000/240= 8.3 amps so 10 amp breakers on second board should be fine ?
5000/240=20.83 amps so 30 amp breaker should be fine also ?
You are definently headed the right direction now. I see everything protected from an overcurrent situation. I have not seen a 10amp breaker in a long time..lol I would stick with 20's and call it a day.

Peace and Safe Grows

Asmallvoice
 

ASMALLVOICE

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Are these outlets plugged right for 240 v ? oh and the timer ?
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I do not think that recepticle is wired correctly, too many wires on it for a 15 amp standard recepticle, the 240 volt recepticles have a horizontal opening at least on 1 side ( nema 6-20R ) and I see the red and white wires above each other on the same side of the plug, there should only be 3 wires total on a 240 volt plug, no neutral is needed, just 2 hots and a ground. It looks to me if you energized that plug right now, you are gonna trip a breaker or see some fireworks. And always wrap the wire all the way around the screw in the direction it tightens ( your wires look like they could come loose at any moment) and then tape the recepticle around the terminals to prevent accidental contact against the side of the box ( I always tape my plugs and switches )

Some more pics a bit further away might help a bit, and a pic of the schematic on the timer would help as well as I am not sure what each terminal is on the pic of the timer ( line and load) to tell if it is terminated properly.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 
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