End of Life Cycle / Harvesting Questions

Aistu

Active Member
Alright ive read a lot of posts and F.A.Qs and seen questions answered which are somewhat like mine but not exactly..

1. When does a Plant sense its own death comming? Is it around harvesting time? or is that merely the time when *People* want to end the plants life cycle? Aka.. if left alone will a plant live far past its "Ripe" Harvesting Time.


2. Will a plant that senses its death comming use all its remaining resources to swell its buds in a hope to catch pollen to pass along to a next generation?


3. Can you make a plant think its going to die (Around the time when you want to harvest it) To make it swell itself and get a better "End Product"?


4. Will a plant that is "Swelling" its buds need more nutes and resources in the soil to do so.. or will it use whats left in the plant itself? Such as its lower leaves. Or both?


5. Can you starve a plant of water (In the last week of flowering) To make it think it is going to die .. to make it "Swell"?


6. If so.. would it be best to starve it for 6+ Days then water it with nutes for the last 3 Days to give it the extra boost of resources for when it "Swells"


7. Will 2+ Days of darkness duing the last week of harvesting work instead of starving it of water to trick the plant into thinking its life cycle is comming to an end??


If anyone can answer any of these questions.. that would be great..

Thank ya

-Aistu-
 
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Prot3us1

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If the plant thinks its going to die without being pollinated it will turn into a hermaphrodite. The plant grows male reproductive organ and pollinates itself. The plant does use nutrients from the lower leaves, the fan leaves. The fan leaves are like the batteries of the plant, they store sugars and create energy for the plant to go about its business.

if you starve the plant of water, what will it use to bulk up. Remember the plant itself is "made" of the nutrients and water we feed it. It takes these in and metabolises them into something it uses to make more matter. Take away water and nutrients and you take away the building materials.

Some people choose to sit the plant in darkness before they harvest. If THC resin is to protect the plant from uv light i would assume taking all the light source from the plant will make it less interested in producing thc. Not to mention without light it cant create energy to make more leaves etc.

The trick is to provide a stress fre evironment. The plant will do what its made do. Its a weed and its made to grow fast and without much intervention. Use good quality water, good nutes and take it easy..the plant is like a baby kitten if you try to eed it nutrient solution straight it will take it in...and die. start it at like 25% of the dosage on the bottle, then ramp it up over time.

the plant will live "as" long as you let it. Cutting off buds and leaves stresses the plant, and also takes away from its energy pool. IT needs a certain amount of leaves to stay alive. Ive heard of people cutting buds off and leaving leaves and re-veging to have the same plant produce again.

2 weeks to revert to veg, then you have to grow all the leaves back, then flower again...better off taking clones earlier on in the cycle and flowering them now.

It will ventually die, but not in the timeframe we give it...people have kept mothers alive for years.

Just be as gentle as you can, dont overwater or overfert and you will soon have lush green skunky buds.

feel free to check out my grow. single 400w hps in there, 4 plants...ill update pics tomorrow or the next day but theres plenty of pics there.

prot
 

Aistu

Active Member
Ok you had some good information there but honestly nothing i was looking for.. First Thank you for your input..

Now.. What im really looking for is..

Ive got a plant 44 Days into flowering.. Going perfectly well no problems buds swelling trichs ambering..

Im wondering.. IF i plant to harvest on lets day day 70 (Lets say that the perfect time harvesting)

Would the plant swell itsself if i starved it from day 59 to 66.. Gave it nutes on 66 to give it the resources it needs to swell itsself because it believes its going to die?

I understand that stress will harm a plant or cause it to go hermie.. but im not talking about stress over a few weeks or months.. Im taking about the very last week of harvesting.. Im pretty sure 6-7 Days of stress wont cause it to go hermie. or even give it the time to develope anything close to male reproductive parts.

Almost all my questions were refering to the very last 6-7 Days you plan to keep your plant alive.. Aka the last week before you harvest.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

Well-Known Member
THe ONLY way you are going to get these questions answers properly is by going throught the process and noteing the results first hand. You are overpersonifying the plant. Most of what you are asking about is completely strain dependent. All strains are very different. 2 plants of the same strain are going to be different. Everyones growing conditions are different.
Yes the plant will grow well past its havest time if its not chopped down to smoke. Why wouldn't it? Its a plant. You can harvest the buds, put it back under 24 hour light, revegg it for a while and then flower it again and have a 2nd harvest if you want to.
The plant does not "know" it is going to die anymore than it knows what day of the week it is. C'mon you know more about plants that that! LOL Trying to make it think its going to die is of no help to you or the plant. And is actually impossible anyway.
This "swelling" that you are talking about isn't what you think it is. Its a very minor swelling of individual calyaxes. Not like your buds are increasing in size or anything.
There are alot of MYTHS about harvest tricks to get that most out of your buds. BUt most of them are just MYTHS. it will take you a long time to learn how/when to harvest to get the smoke that YOU prefer. Some one just cant come on here and TELL you.

When harvest time approaches i check trichs every day. I dont flush (i grow organic), i dont add this or that, i dont stress my plant, no 2 days of darkness. Thats all mumbo jumbo crazy stuff. Sure some of it might be benificial in certain situations. No ones growing conditions were exactly like yours. I've tried a few different things at harvest time. I never see/taste/smell/or weigh anything different becasue of any "tricks" i tried. But like i said...do what ever you want, and then do something different. See what works better for YOU.
IMO A personally satifying marijuana harvest must be learned, it cannot be taught.
Good luck. And congrats on your harvestable plant. Peace.
 
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Illegal Smile

Guest
Did you say you have trichs ambering? Are you sure about that? If so it is ready to be harvested right now. Have you looked at trichs under high magnification?
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

Well-Known Member
Did you say you have trichs ambering? Are you sure about that? If so it is ready to be harvested right now. Have you looked at trichs under high magnification?
yeah thats kinda what i was thinking too, but 40 some days is a little soon to be seeing much amber so....IDK. Depends on the strain. If its a full on indica, it might de done already.
 

Aistu

Active Member
yeah thats kinda what i was thinking too, but 40 some days is a little soon to be seeing much amber so....IDK. Depends on the strain. If its a full on indica, it might de done already.

By that i mean only like 2 or 3 on the whole plant so far that ive notice.. I mainly put that there as a "Plant is doing fine" Kinda thing..

Also thank you for all the information and i realize i cannot be "Taught" how to harvest, what works, and everything else.. But this is my first "Successful" Harvest thus far.. So i dont have any "First Hand Experience" On what works and what doesnt.. therefore im Asking. if anyone has tried any of this and if it will make any difference at all..
 

Cap K

Well-Known Member
THe ONLY way you are going to get these questions answers properly is by going throught the process and noteing the results first hand. You are overpersonifying the plant. Most of what you are asking about is completely strain dependent. All strains are very different. 2 plants of the same strain are going to be different. Everyones growing conditions are different.
Yes the plant will grow well past its havest time if its not chopped down to smoke. Why wouldn't it? Its a plant. You can harvest the buds, put it back under 24 hour light, revegg it for a while and then flower it again and have a 2nd harvest if you want to.
The plant does not "know" it is going to die anymore than it knows what day of the week it is. C'mon you know more about plants that that! LOL Trying to make it think its going to die is of no help to you or the plant. And is actually impossible anyway.
This "swelling" that you are talking about isn't what you think it is. Its a very minor swelling of individual calyaxes. Not like your buds are increasing in size or anything.
There are alot of MYTHS about harvest tricks to get that most out of your buds. BUt most of them are just MYTHS. it will take you a long time to learn how/when to harvest to get the smoke that YOU prefer. Some one just cant come on here and TELL you.

When harvest time approaches i check trichs every day. I dont flush (i grow organic), i dont add this or that, i dont stress my plant, no 2 days of darkness. Thats all mumbo jumbo crazy stuff. Sure some of it might be benificial in certain situations. No ones growing conditions were exactly like yours. I've tried a few different things at harvest time. I never see/taste/smell/or weigh anything different becasue of any "tricks" i tried. But like i said...do what ever you want, and then do something different. See what works better for YOU.
IMO A personally satifying marijuana harvest must be learned, it cannot be taught.
Good luck. And congrats on your harvestable plant. Peace.
Quite right man, quite right. The experience comes from the doing. A person can do as much research as he wants, but when it comes down to it, your'e just gonna have to try for yourself and record your results. Definetly different strokes for different folks though. Like some people would swear by going hydro and others would say no use soil. In the end it's a preference and the only way to truly know what best suits you is to try different approaches over time.
 

zapatista

Active Member
i got no experience and am really amazed. so far i have cut down 3 ounces wet to hopefully give nutes to higher buds. im ending flowering soon 7 weeks right now i think who knows. not really any amber but plenty of cream. really gettin high on bagseed. i left my lights on accidently for extra 14 hrs at week 6 and got lots of new growth and swell. no hermies. i think if its common sense try it. i dont think darkness helps. for every action there is an equal reaction.
 
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