scroglodyte
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maybe prune that bottom 1/3........looks lush
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scroglodyte
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my screens look like they were ripped off of a chicken coop. everyone else has screens that are so nice and neat. i need to clean up my act
trichomedome
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I,m far from an expert but imho you would yield more without the screen, veg it for a bit longer check jsamuels and my screen. Other than that they look 100% healthy tcd
Jsamuel that looks good to me, but i,d take scroglodyte,s advice
his name says it all Is that eggshell or vynl paint you,ve used ? i can see some sort of shine of the paint, it should only be matt that is used for grow rooms it,s like 30% more reflective. I don,t want to sound analitical but you,ve evidently went to the trouble of doing a decent job in your groom . atb TCD
Oh yeh i have a QUESTION ?
What do you do when it gets to busy, i,m at the point where lots of holes have 2 shoots coming out them. i was thinking of thining out the thiner shoots ? please advise TCD
Additional air circulation may be required in order to avoid fungal issues. As bud sites develop, choose the better branches for keeps and remove surrounding vegetation that is underdeveloped, sharing space, or crowding developed or potential colas. At that point, if you have those options, keeping an even surface area is quite easy. Remove whats not needed and only keep the most uniform parts.
Woodsmantoker~
Jsamuel that looks good to me, but i,d take scroglodyte,s advice
his name says it all Is that eggshell or vynl paint you,ve used ? i can see some sort of shine of the paint, it should only be matt that is used for grow rooms it,s like 30% more reflective. I don,t want to sound analitical but you,ve evidently went to the trouble of doing a decent job in your groom . atb TCDOh yeh i have a QUESTION ?
What do you do when it gets to busy, i,m at the point where lots of holes have 2 shoots coming out them. i was thinking of thining out the thiner shoots ? please advise TCD
Additional air circulation may be required in order to avoid fungal issues. As bud sites develop, choose the better branches for keeps and remove surrounding vegetation that is underdeveloped, sharing space, or crowding developed or potential colas. At that point, if you have those options, keeping an even surface area is quite easy. Remove whats not needed and only keep the most uniform parts.
Woodsmantoker~
mufastaa
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the screen both spreads the plant out to give it more light to the bud sites, and also supports the buds while they flower if you do it right, meaning more energy goes toward budding. This makes your yeild way bigger.
forgetiwashere, that one looks really nice, but the same thing happened to you that did to me, and it looks like your plants outgrew the screen way too fast in flower. you got to keep the plants below it until you see some pistils. still, the screen spreads the plant and definitely increased the yield.
forgetiwashere, that one looks really nice, but the same thing happened to you that did to me, and it looks like your plants outgrew the screen way too fast in flower. you got to keep the plants below it until you see some pistils. still, the screen spreads the plant and definitely increased the yield.
jsamuel24
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I,m far from an expert but imho you would yield more without the screen, "It looks like a fence has fallen on a plant
Jsamuel that looks good to me, but i,d take scroglodyte,s advice
Oh yeh i have a QUESTION ?
What do you do when it gets to busy, i,m at the point where lots of holes have 2 shoots coming out them. i was thinking of thining out the thiner shoots ? please advise TCD
Yeah the walls are eggshell atm. Is my second grow. First one did not go well as I didnt have good lighting or really know what I was doing at all. For 2nd grow only changed 3 things, lighting, scrog, and nutes. next grow I will end up painting the room and improving the area. Just trying to dial in 1 or 2 things a grow so I learn more and get better. Only growing for personal use so as long as I can yield enough in each grow for myself and my fiance then I am a happy man. Appreciate the feedback as I really was not sure how well it was doing compared to other.
Cheers
jsamuel24
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I have been thinking about that and I am torn. I pruned the first 9 inches of the plant. I think for this grow i am going to hold off there and just snip what starts to yellow. Only trying to make 2 or 3 changes in a grow for control reasons. Want to know that everything I am doing is helping and how much it helps. Next crop if this goes well I will prolly go to 12-14" of trim so i can compare my results.
Cheers
jsamuel24
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All my screen is is a 1X1.4" wooden frame that I build, then tacked in linoleum tacks and then strung plumb line across to make the screen. seems to work pretty well.my screens look like they were ripped off of a chicken coop. everyone else has screens that are so nice and neat. i need to clean up my act
forgetiwashere
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yeah thanks mufastaa, that is exactly what happened veg'd till i thought the screen was full then flipped and stretched devastated me. thats why this time i flipped a lot earlier and i will continue to train until i see flowers forming then i will let the colas stack up. i did a little vanilla kush grow this same way it was about the size of the dutch delight and i pulled 10 oz off of it dry so yeah im less concerned about filling my screen now and more concerned about plant height and quality.
im selecting a keeper from this round i have already taken clones of everything so whichever one i decide to keep i will then run clones in the tent with the 4 pots. i think once i run a strain a few times i will be able to dial it in perfectly to get the most from my screens until then im just going to lean on the side of caution.
im thinking the morning glory or dutch delight will be my keeper. one of the morning glories just has so many bud sights on the screen its not funny you probably cant tell from the pic but the one in the back right has over 30 tops already and i imagine will have a few more by the time stretch ends. if i was running four clones of that one my screen would be filled already and i would have over 120 tops so im thinking as long as that one yields nice size colas and is a good smoke she will be my keeper
trichomedome
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what can i do if it starts to get to busy on the screen ? I was thinking about thining out the thiner shoots ? It,s been in 12/12 for 1 wk today ? please advise TCD
trichomedome
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If i lifted it 6" it would pull most of it of ? the tallest shoots are only 4" to 5" tall ?
TCDIm doing some scrog strain research and have come up with these strain Whitewidow x big bud , g13 pineapple express, super lemon haze, apollo 11, c99.
Would be appreciated if someone could elaborate the list with more strains. I done scrog once with c99 and got ALOT of buds, but they were all small ones. I looking for a strain with produces alot of big colas instead for my next scrog. Mainly becausee big cola strains are better for lollipoping imo. Much appreciated
Would be appreciated if someone could elaborate the list with more strains. I done scrog once with c99 and got ALOT of buds, but they were all small ones. I looking for a strain with produces alot of big colas instead for my next scrog. Mainly becausee big cola strains are better for lollipoping imo. Much appreciated
Cheers! OK, If you start thinning a lot, you will loose a lot of yield and slow down the plants in the most important stage of development. If you let them get leggy, bud development beneath the tops will suck and you will think that scrogging sucks ha.what can i do if it starts to get to busy on the screen ? I was thinking about thining out the thiner shoots ? It,s been in 12/12 for 1 wk today ? please advise TCD
If the pic was taken at one week 12/12, your stretch should be about over in another week to 10 days, and yes, it will be busy, but keep putting them under, you will be fine. Once it gets to difficult (more break in the process then not) you can also tie them down, tie them out of the way, remove parts of fan leafs that cover major but sites etc. Take a look from underneath the screen and you will see plenty of room there. You can also still better position some of the branches, just pull one back that is in a crowded place and redirect it to a less occupied area. If you have the room, raise the screen a bit, that buys you a lot of room, great advise from the guy above
just make sure to maintain light distance, otherwise they will stretch more to get close to the light again.Now, it is crucial that you can maintain humidity (below 50% once buds start to form) during flowering, especially within a dense canopy. Several fans gently blowing into the canopy would be great.
Keep posting updated pics, like daily, so we can see how fast they are stretching, and help you out along the way.
BTW, they look great, if you do this right you will be a happy man
TheDuder
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Wow! Beautiful canopy above! Great use of fencing. I am 9 days into flower myself under my first scrog. I had some 3 foot mothers I figured I'd flower rather than ditch. They are stretching as expected. I put a screen in the closet in the hopes of using the small space most efficiently. The moms were abused for life as I continually raped them for clones. I left only branches which were strongest and formed the flat canopy so they adjusted flawlessly into the screen environment.
I've never done the screen before but I have to restrain the vertical growth some and get them to spread out more. I've done my final trim a week ago and now I am re-positioning the tips daily to snake under the screen. My screen is about 65-75% consumed and I was curious if the next week or two's final stretch would fill my screen and require me to remove the shelf above the light, so that the light can be raised accordingly. I have some seedlings growing in some humidity domes tonight on that shelf. Rather not move delicate sprouts. If it is inevitable, I could use the Scrog professionals opinion. I try to predict the growth restricted by I fear they will fill this screen and need a foot or so. Again, they were 3 ft at the onset of 12/12. That was a very slow 3ft too because of all the LST, topping, cloning, super-cropping and, FIM I did to them. They have been more abused than any other plant I've grown. What didn't kill them made them stronger and near impervious to minor stressors.
A few pics below. I started a thread for the grow to review the strain. A link is in my signature.
Pics are 4 days old. I will post new ones here and in the below thread every Monday....if you'll allow it.
I've never done the screen before but I have to restrain the vertical growth some and get them to spread out more. I've done my final trim a week ago and now I am re-positioning the tips daily to snake under the screen. My screen is about 65-75% consumed and I was curious if the next week or two's final stretch would fill my screen and require me to remove the shelf above the light, so that the light can be raised accordingly. I have some seedlings growing in some humidity domes tonight on that shelf. Rather not move delicate sprouts. If it is inevitable, I could use the Scrog professionals opinion. I try to predict the growth restricted by I fear they will fill this screen and need a foot or so. Again, they were 3 ft at the onset of 12/12. That was a very slow 3ft too because of all the LST, topping, cloning, super-cropping and, FIM I did to them. They have been more abused than any other plant I've grown. What didn't kill them made them stronger and near impervious to minor stressors.
A few pics below. I started a thread for the grow to review the strain. A link is in my signature.
Pics are 4 days old. I will post new ones here and in the below thread every Monday....if you'll allow it.
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Just installed my screen last night... At what point do I flip to 12/12 was going to start in 6 days gradually pegging back from 20/4.. I want Max yield so open to suggestions
Have a look here for some pics and more info on another thread
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-1.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-2.jpg
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https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-1.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-2.jpg
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trichomedome
Active Member
Ah a man talking as if seeing through my eyesCheers! OK, If you start thinning a lot, you will loose a lot of yield and slow down the plants in the most important stage of development. If you let them get leggy, bud development beneath the tops will suck and you will think that scrogging sucks ha.
If the pic was taken at one week 12/12, your stretch should be about over in another week to 10 days, and yes, it will be busy, but keep putting them under, you will be fine. Once it gets to difficult (more break in the process then not) you can also tie them down, tie them out of the way, remove parts of fan leafs that cover major but sites etc. Take a look from underneath the screen and you will see plenty of room there. You can also still better position some of the branches, just pull one back that is in a crowded place and redirect it to a less occupied area. If you have the room, raise the screen a bit, that buys you a lot of room, great advise from the guy above
Now, it is crucial that you can maintain humidity (below 50% once buds start to form) during flowering, especially within a dense canopy. Several fans gently blowing into the canopy would be great.
Keep posting updated pics, like daily, so we can see how fast they are stretching, and help you out along the way.
BTW, they look great, if you do this right you will be a happy man
i,m at the point where some damage is starting there,s so many stems under there "that,s not a complaint " i,ve been under and rerouted a few stems it,s getting to be a hassle however as you say another 7 to 10 dys and that,s them normaly ? Thanks for the encoureging compliments chaps, i,ll keep all up to date. P.S Do they look leggy in that photo ? i could not understand why the chap advised me "If you have the room, raise the screen a bit, that buys you a lot of room, great advise from the guy above " The tallest shoots are only 4 or 5 inches above the screen that,s the space i,m trying to maintain ? would that be about right. Thanks again for the advice TCD oh if you look in the photo you can see my roll of twist and tie perfect for the job if needed ?
trichomedome
Active Member
This was taken on the 9th of march if you look back you,ll see it now, after 4 weeks and also see when i fliped to 12/12 atb TCDJust installed my screen last night... At what point do I flip to 12/12 was going to start in 6 days gradually pegging back from 20/4.. I want Max yield so open to suggestions
Have a look here for some pics and more info on another thread
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-1.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-2.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/2109611d1333746272-flower-now-later-photo-3.jpg
trichomedome
Active Member
They are air pots budy, if you can get them try at least one if not for you try one for me
, "there only £1 more than a std pot" and they are fkn awesome a root system second to none through air prunning the roots ? "google it". I read all the bull and thought yeh,yeh then needed 4 pots so i put the little extra to it and got them wow the bigest upgrade to a system i,ve ever had for sutch a paltry amout of £. atb TCD