EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

Fogdog

Fogdog

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ChesusRice said:
What registered democratic voters got suppressed?
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Why do you think that some parties in some states put a 6 month deadline in place? To put it another way, Clinton has a huge operation working for her. I'm willing to bet that there was a call list and a room of staff paid by Hillary's campaign on the phones making sure "the right people" were registered before the deadline. Bernie's campaign was in part flattened by her organization's get out the vote effort in early primary states. Do you think they had not given this time limit consideration and decided it hurt Bernie more than it did Hillary?

Because the rules were in place and available to everybody well before the election began, I don't think this is dishonest. I do think there was a sharp operator who made sure whatever was in place would be most helpful to Hillary. Calling it voter suppression would not be wrong.
 
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ChesusRice

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Fogdog said:
Why do you think that some parties in some states put a 6 month deadline in place? To put it another way, Clinton has a huge operation working for her. I'm willing to bet that there was a call list and a room of staff paid by Hillary's campaign on the phones making sure "the right people" were registered before the deadline. Bernie's campaign was in part flattened by her organization's get out the vote effort in early primary states. Do you think they had not given this time limit consideration and decided it hurt Bernie more than it did Hillary?

Because the rules were in place and available to everybody well before the election began, I don't think this is dishonest. I do think there was a sharp operator who made sure whatever was in place would be most helpful to Hillary. Calling it voter suppression would not be wrong.
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Whatever was in place was in place for decades
 
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ChesusRice

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ttystikk said:
That doesn't mean that it isn't voter suppression.

Why the fuck are you defending the broken parts of the system, anyway?
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It's not. You cannot show a single instance where registered democrats were denied a voice in their partys nominating process.
The democrats put these rules in place decades ago
 
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ChesusRice

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All I'm hearing from Sanders supporters is
The Democrats should let non democrats choose their partys nominee. Because not enough democrats are voting for Sanders.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ChesusRice said:
It's not. You cannot show a single instance where registered democrats were denied a voice in their partys nominating process.
The democrats put these rules in place decades ago
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Interesting way to word that..

What about the people that didn't know they had to be registered in their state by X amount of time before the primary, in some cases, up to 6 months before the election? Independents in closed primaries. The counties in New York that changed to opening the voting booth at noon right before the election and closed at 7 or 8pm (perfect for people who have to work, lower class people, predominantly Sanders supporters)?

"Well, those are the rules" is dumb logic because it's a dumb rule, and you're only using that argument because of the technical implication because you support Clinton.

Shady stuff perpetrated by the DNC, the Clinton campaign, Clinton supporters, and mainstream media that coincidentally helped Clinton and hurt Sanders has happened all throughout this campaign cycle, nobody can possibly deny that. The fact he's gotten this far despite all that and without superPAC money is a political statement that shows where this movement is going regardless of the outcome of this election.
 
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ChesusRice

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Padawanbater2 said:
Interesting way to word that..

What about the people that didn't know they had to be registered in their state by X amount of time before the primary, in some cases, up to 6 months before the election? Independents in closed primaries. The counties in New York that changed to opening the voting booth at noon right before the election and closed at 7 or 8pm (perfect for people who have to work, lower class people, predominantly Sanders supporters)?

"Well, those are the rules" is dumb logic because it's a dumb rule, and you're only using that argument because of the technical implication because you support Clinton.

Shady stuff perpetrated by the DNC, the Clinton campaign, Clinton supporters, and mainstream media that coincidentally helped Clinton and hurt Sanders has happened all throughout this campaign cycle, nobody can possibly deny that. The fact he's gotten this far despite all that and without superPAC money is a political statement that shows where this movement is going regardless of the outcome of this election.
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Sanders takes money from anyone. Including super pacs and the Koch brothers
 
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