ttystikk
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And how often have these been hilariously wrong this very primary season?
Consider the source, man.
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Consider the source, man.
ChesusRice
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Michigan
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ChesusRice
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already happened with surrogates
ChesusRice
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Another reason is that, in those states, Clinton has done well in heavily Hispanic areas. So far, 17 majority-Hispanic districts have voted in the Democratic campaign: 10 congressional districts in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and New York, and seven state Senate districts in Texas (which tabulates its vote based on state Senate boundaries rather than congressional boundaries). Of those 17 districts, Clinton has won 16. In fact, she’s dominated them, winning an average of 66 percent of the vote to Sanders’s 34 percent. The lone, weird exception is Chicago’s earmuff-shaped 4th Congressional District, where Sanders won by 16 percentage points.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hispanic-voters-will-decide-bernie-sanderss-fate-in-california/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/hispanic-voters-will-decide-bernie-sanderss-fate-in-california/
Fogdog
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Nephew graduated from HS today, I'm so sorry to have missed your message.
Your messages have become less coherent, so I'll take a guess at what you expect me to reply to. That being the scandalous behavior of the superdelegates. They sure did sneak one by us didn't they? The bastards even made it look as if they created that rule in 1982. snicker
I know your haven't made it past the denial stage of grief yet, but please bear with me. When the news came out about the majority of superdelegates pledging to Clinton towards the end of last summer, I posted in this thread that the superdelegates would not go against the popular vote and I still believe that. It would be an outrage if the superdelegates defeated the popular vote, regardless of who won
Guess what? Clinton has won more states and overall more people have voted for her in primaries. I would be outraged if Bernie were the winner of the popular vote and the superdelegates had flipped the selection to Hillary. But that's not the case. Bernie did not win the popular vote, Hillary did. Hillary won the popular vote or more precisely put, will win the popular vote of registered Democrats before the end of this month. I don't know what part of that last sentence you don't understand.
londonfog
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Bernie ran an awesome race. He has awaken a lot pf people. He will be remembered.
Fogdog
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Ask London what he thinks of polls and forecasts from them.
Fogdog
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typical margin of error is 5%. People forget that when a close election goes against a poll result that showed a close race.
ChesusRice
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I'm replying to all the polls cited that show Sanders as the stronger candidate.
He's not.
Padawanbater2
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ChesusRice
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NEW YORK, June 3 (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton has opened up a double-digit lead over Republican rival Donald Trump, regaining ground after the New York billionaire briefly tied her last month, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.
The shift in support comes as Clinton steps up her attacks on the real estate mogul's policy positions, and as Trump fends off criticisms of his eponymous university and the pace at which he doled out money that he raised for U.S. veterans.
Some 46 percent of likely voters said they supported Clinton, while 35 percent said they supported Trump, and another 19 percent said they would not support either, according to the survey of 1,421 people conducted between May 30 and June 3
The shift in support comes as Clinton steps up her attacks on the real estate mogul's policy positions, and as Trump fends off criticisms of his eponymous university and the pace at which he doled out money that he raised for U.S. veterans.
Some 46 percent of likely voters said they supported Clinton, while 35 percent said they supported Trump, and another 19 percent said they would not support either, according to the survey of 1,421 people conducted between May 30 and June 3
Padawanbater2
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Sanders has a bigger lead against Trump in a general election than Clinton according to every major poll available. That makes him more electable and the stronger candidate.
Show me a poll where Clinton performs better against Trump than Sanders does
Show me a poll where Clinton performs better against Trump than Sanders does
ChesusRice
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Not anymore
Padawanbater2
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Prove it, show me a poll that shows Clinton performing better against Trump than Sanders
ChesusRice
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I don't need to
Sanders wont be on the ticket for the Democrats
Padawanbater2
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You do if you want to prove the point you're trying to make that Clinton is more electable and the stronger candidate against Trump in the general election
She's not and you know it, and now you're risking the next administration - supreme court seats and all - on the weaker democratic candidate - and telling Sanders supporters that we're the ones risking a Trump administration by not voting for Clinton. No, you're risking a Trump administration by not voting for Sanders.
Fogdog
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I was just jerking your and London's chain.
ChesusRice
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She is
Because she is going to be on the ballot
Impossible.
Sanders won't get the nomination.
Why should I vote for him?
Fogdog
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Paddy, as much as I'd like to see Sanders running against Trump, your point is hypothetical. The people who are registered as members of the Democratic party are about to name Hillary Clinton as their candidate for President.
The polls you cite are only good for the moment. In past elections, these polls have been very inaccurate. Mostly because there is a lot that will happen between now and the November election. Kerry was leading GWB by a wide margin at this time in the election of 2004, for instance.