Exhale Co2 Bags?

Serapis

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Dude, read the the subject line of the thread......... when you understand the topic, come on back and discuss methods for adding CO2 to your grow. No one is comparing nutes, soils, molasses and other shit, we are discussing CO2. The seltzer is simply a cheap method to introduce additional CO2 into a grow. What science are you citing to debunk that? If you actually read the University study, you would know that the results were clearly evident, not "barely" evident as you describe.

Seltzer water at Food lion comes in a 32 oz bottle for $0.79 that is the third time I have told you that. I go through about 2-3 bottles a week, less than $3. It is not in place of fertilizers, it is not in place of fresh air. It is a supplement. I've compared grows side by side with plants that got seltzer and plants that did not. I'm sold on it. You can continue to not to use it, but don't post that it's a worthless idea as you did originally, because you are wrong and just being ignorant at this point.

I have yet to see plain seltzer water sold in 12 or 16 oz bottles either. It generally comes in 32 and 64 oz and is sold as a mixer for drinks. The seltzer I'm referring to is this seltzer. Soda water can be used for the same benefits, but has added sodium and should be avoided.

Jorge Cervantes sure knows his shit, however I've never seen him do cheap grows. Therefor he never covers money saving ideas such as this.

Again I say to you, it's simple science and your prices are way off. Foliar feeding works, it's been proven. Adding CO2 via seltzer to the stomata works as well, whether you like it or not. It is a cheap alternative to feeding a lot of sugar to yeast or having welding bottles hauled in and out of your grow (hardly stealthy or cheap).

This is my last post on the matter. I've made my points and have nothing else to say. Your rebuttal lacked any citation of science and the monetary figures you cited are anything but realistic. You must be referring to something like New York Seltzer which is flavored seltzer water.
 

jimbizzzale67123

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Please point out where I make ANY claims that Seltzer is as effective as a complete CO2 system?

You are just being an ass at this point. Your PM to me with the definition of retarded was a classic response from an immature ignoramus. You even misspelled the word RETARDED.

Again, I can't hold a discussion with an ass that refuses to acknowledge the science behind a proven theory. As I stated earlier, you are free to do what you want, but when you start cursing me and insulting me, well then all I can say is FUCK YOU!!

you are the mother fucker that is full of himself.

I'm merely pointing out an additional way to add O2 to a grow and do it for cheap. You are just being a moronic ass at this point.

You can also stop with the BS PM's....

I'm done babysitting... Welcome to my ignore list. In almost 2 years here, you are the first to make it on.....
LOL, I am pretty sure its been a scientific fact that plants need Co2 and sunlight to go through photosynthesis for really long time not a new theory. Again I was merely making fun of your expensive and unpractical way of providing Co2 to marijuana. You should know that because my initial joke was to just open a bunch of soda cans idiot. And you are still dumb for spending that much money on seltzer have fun I will rest easy knowing you like to ruin the environment and waist money on carbonated water to spray on your plants.

Again how do you provide the co2 when they are in full flower do you chug the seltzer and burp on them?
 

RavenMochi

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Okay, Okay, everyone calm down, smoke a bowl...indica, preferably in this case so we can all just get along...and if ya'll try to beat me with a nightstick its on... and jimblzzzale6....bunch of numbers, wtf?! how many jimbizzzale's are they're?!! are there armies of you basterds out there?!! oh, sorry...I digress, here at rui people get infractions for calling people stupid, dumb, other degrading, character attacking things. I know, I got one...but, do what you want, but do please just calm down, and don't fake laugh, there's no point in it...you wouldn't be getting so upset if you were laughing, unless your a psychopath, in which case maybe you are laughing....whilst holding a huge meat cleaver you're now sharpening as you read these words...in which case, no hard feelings, can I buy you a drink? :blsmoke:
"If one argues with a fool, then who's the fool?" ~ some random dead guy I didn't even take the slighest time or effort to find with a simple google search...
 

chittychitty

Active Member
so say a 16oz bottle cost $3.00 and you have to use four just to water one plant and then you have to do it twice a week for 15 weeks that comes out too $360.00 for one fucking plant. Have fun spending that much money I never said it didn't work I said it wasn't practical and isn't very efficient. I think I just proved my point and you can tell me again how it works but its a waist of money so have fun bro with your seltzer water. I use botaicare nutrients and fox farm ocean forest and I grow just fine, and I am not throwing away 1,000's of bottles of carbonated water into landfills. You are living a pipe dream if you think the amount of marijuana you gain from adding seltzer water is worth the cost of the seltzer water its self. I know what foliar feeding is too and dont patronize me and again dont waist your time telling me how it works I read that.
Dude I can get seltzer water for $1.00 per 2 liter... That's ~64 oz in case you didn't know... The shit is cheap as fuck... How much is a CO2 generator again???
 

jimbizzzale67123

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Well seltzer doesn't have nutrients in it its mineral water and seltzer has very little co2 in it pour a can of sprite in a glass and then pour seltzer in a glass you will see what im talking about. And all of you agreeing with them doesn't even have any clue of how much co2 is in seltzer im done arguing you can waist your money if you want too. Im looking out for people some guy one time said adding crushed up fruit loops too a bowl of weed makes it taste fruity when smoked. A lot of BS gets thrown around here and seltzer supplying large and necessary amounts of co2 is big time crap. If you really wanted co2 please dont get it from seltzer its just stupid seripias is trying to glorify his stupid ass theory its not a good way of providing co2 and its that simple until I get some PPM readings I will know that there is very little co2 in seltzer and no nutrients in them that is carbonated mineral water that has nutrients, and that is the expensive stuff fools. Just remember how carbonated sprite is you will probably have the same effect from opening a can like I initial said.

Use of carbonated water certainly helps the plants grow faster and also gives them the thick green shade; however, will it maintain the health of plants is a question we are unsure of. You may use carbonated water for instant growth, but avoiding it in the long run will be beneficial. When proper plant care is taken that is soil, nutrients, water and sunlight are provided in accurate amount you will surely have healthy plants. This may take some time for plants to grow, but at least you are assured about its health. Excess of carbon dioxide is not good for any living thing. Carbonated water may not show instant ill effects, but there are high chances of the plant getting damaged in the future. Carbonated water is similar to a mild acid. Some plants are known to grow well in acidic soil, while few simply can not survive in it. Thus when using carbonated water, you would also need to make sure if the plant has acid resistance. An experienced gardener will surely help you in learning which plants can show excellent results with carbonated water.
Plants are known to absorb the carbon dioxide and give out fresh oxygen. Plants absorb the carbon dioxide from the air, whereas when you feed them with carbonated water, it gets it from it. Normally the plant leaves are known to absorb the carbon dioxide, however when you pour the carbonated water, the roots, too absorb it, for its function. As per your needs and views, you would have to decide whether to provide your plants with carbonated or simple tap water.

looks like no one is really on board with your seltzer trick so have fun wasting money and damaging your plants, please give advise that actually works instead of a paragraph from boulder university that I am 100% sure wasn't conducted on MARIJUANA.

I know how to grow and I give good solid advise. Your telling people to waist money on something that isn't efficient or as effective as you make it out to be in fact its actually dangerous in large quantities. Maybe when you understand that suggesting something that is wasteful to the environment and our pockets then you will admit its not as good as YOUR(Not one person has backed you up) saying man. I cant listen to your BS anymore comeback with some legit advise no one wants your crappy advise that doesn't even necessarily help anyone.

LIKE I HAVE SAID BREATHING DIRECTLY ON YOUR PLANTS WILL PROVIDE MORE CO2 THEN SELTZER AND SELTZER DOESN'T CONTAIN ANY NUTRIENTS IT IS SPARKLING MINERAL WATER THAT HAS NUTRIENTS.

NOW THAT'S ADVISE SERAPIS.
 

AudiA6Driver

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hahaha!!!! that was a good read, I agree for a closet grower who only has an extra couple bucks a week, it probably would hurt to spray some seltzer if you can. Cuz its not like you can put anything else to add co2 in there like a fucking generator, and im sure it helps bring down temps which i know closet growers are using constantly fighting ( Me being one ) but i would have to say if you can fork over 25 bucks then just get a bag, im very happy with mine and the results my friend has been getting, he has a ppm meter and i can verify ive seen the numbers they do.
 

Serapis

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For someone that's done arguing, you sure have a lot of BS to say. lol...

I watered my ladies with seltzer last night and they are looking fan fucking tastic today. :)

I'm happy with the results, and if that upsets you blaze, I'm even happier :)

JimBizz is just showing his arrogance.... There are plenty of studies available ONLINE that show the benefits to humans and list what is in seltzer water if he would open his closed head and accept knowledge... It is true that some brands are just carbonated water with no minerals. Not all bottles are the same. And just to finish this, the idea isn't mine, it's all over the net.... I have used it and seen the results on my plants, something that Jimbizz obviously cannot say.

http://searchwarp.com/swa225773.htm
http://www.drbriffa.com/2005/01/23/sparkling-water/
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-carbonated-water.htm

Mr know it all, My bottles have listed as ingredients, carbonated water and minerals....
 

Serapis

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I'm sure they are. Pay $25 for a mushroom reaction to yeast. Meanwhile, I'm going to spray mineral enriched Co2 on my plants. With that $25, I can buy 32 32 ounce bottles of water that is beneficial to my plants with CO2 and all of the elements listed above in my previous responses to your closed minded comments. With that $25, the water will last me about two grows. I can expose my plants to CO2 much longer than you can with your mushroom bag. I also have the benefit of getting my minerals and carbon Dioxide directly to the roots, which you cannot do with your overpriced gas.

Again, for someone that is done arguing, you just can't seem to shut up can you? Your avatar implies you are a medical marijuana patient. If you are growing your own, don't you owe it to yourself to try a simple experiment instead of blindly arguing against something you have no experience in? that would take a man's attitude i guess, and you just don't have what it takes.... Or are you a know it all "caregiver" that grows on other people's misery? I'm betting the later....
 

jimbizzzale67123

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Yea ok buddy once u open the bottles u better use them right away ur just backing yourself further and further into the corner, first u said seltzer then I point out seltzer doesnt have nutrients and mineral water does. So what do you do, you act like you have been talking about mineral water the whole time. You dont know shit and u said multiple time you wont be coming back here but yet again here you are.
 

RavenMochi

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Yea, enough...both of you, no new info in 2 pages, probably 3, neither one of you will EVER change they're mind, so whats the point again? proving your right? That excuse only works for women. Jim, I have no idea what you have to gain by trying so desperately to prove him wrong, but if you really want to prove your point, do just that PROVE it. Do a side by side, one using a bag or whatever method of co2 your using, the other with the seltzer. Since you seem to KNOW your right, only feed two the seltzer and compare the results side by side. So far we've heard nothing from you but opinion. Fact is what is required here, your opponent has given sources. SOURCES. not opinion, if your going to keep arguing, for the love of God, please, please just find a source to back you up rather than relying on your opinion. Your opinion is gold only to you, to everyone else its a mystery metal, that could very well just be painted foil. And not just yours, anyone's opinion. To put in in the words of Robert H. Heinlein, "If it cannot be expressed in numbers, its not fact, its opinion" So....where are our numbers?
 

RavenMochi

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Sad, when the demanding of sources ends an argument...†LOL† should have done that 3 pages ago... :blsmoke:
 

lovemug

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has anyone ordered these bags? and if so did you see a noticable diference that justifies 25$ for them?
 

newbiebob

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how often did you use the spray?
how long does one bag last aand for how many plants. From what i read its a foliar spray. However, the site is not geared for the ganj.
so it dosent really talk about how long one bag will last or how many foliar feedings etc
 

RavenMochi

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Wow....would have never seen it coming. Page 7, and this post starts producing ideas again...guess its kind of like new growth at the end of a forest fire... :blsmoke: I'm going to have to try some of these....
 
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