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bobrown14

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Yeah it is possible it was my fault however I've been growing for 18 years and that was my first plant to throw pollen in that time. It didn't ruin the crop but the citrique came out really horrible. Ballsacks and nanners galore. I've put a video of it on IG, the plant looks nice until you see all the horrible nanners sticking out.
Maybe you ran it too long in flower?? Most any plant will do that given the chance and time.

The Future is straight up fire.... I ran it last round all my friends came back for more... lasted a few weeks after cure. Pretty stony high if you leave it run 60ish days. A little more uplifting @ 55 days..

Flushing doesn't do anything but drown the roots and the micro-organisms. It will "leach" out excess nitrates that then make it into our water ways polluting our environment.

Micro organisms break down the excess nitrates into nitrogen gas and is a normal process. So leave the chems in the soil. The plant only uses what the plant needs and nothing more. The micro-organisms covert the excess. Best thing is not to use them, if you want to use them (fertilizers) use what the plant needs not excessively. Take the soil when finished and re-cycle it into compost pile then re-use next round. Very simple.

Good read:
https://ag.umass.edu/soil-plant-tissue-testing-lab/fact-sheets/over-fertilization-of-soils-its-causes-effects-remediation

@Face45 - that plant in your pic... that's what my plants look like before chop. I don't use fertilizers just organic soil. What you see there is senescence which is the plants natural ability to trans locate nutrients from its sinks (older FAN leaves) to the flowers for reproductive purposes. Its an annual plant, we want the plant to turn colors and loose those old leaves down the stretch.

Too much nitrogen in the soil/fertilizer causes the plant to grow more leaves. This is a reaction by the plant as a survival mechanism. Grow more leaves in case shortage of water/nutrients later in life. Problem comes from all that excess leaf material, it tastes like shit when you smoke it. We want to puff on the flowers not the leaves... why most of us trim our plants. But the nitrogen fed plants have too much leaf material in the flowers.
 

limonene

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Well it popped ballsacks on week 3 - 4 so no. And the nanners came in the last week or 2 and I harvested it when I felt it was ready. I'd say that OVOG male is pretty unstable. Seen a hell of a lot of bad reports on IG, too many to all be grower error
 

Lordhooha

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I must have a " Kush" dominant pheno and a Green Ribbon mega-yielder...

Appreciate you sharing that, I'm looking at the new line, seeds here now is giving away Batch 81, I'm VERY intrigued to say the least....
I've grabbed a few packs of each off the new seeds currently finishing black mamba now and debating on what to run next I think I might do meltdown since I'm working through the last release stuff still. I have to find out what batch 81 is. Also I don't flush period regardless of what strain I'm running. The cure is what you need to get down that an drying is were the chlorophyll is broken down.
 

Starris

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Hi all. I'm currently growing some of batch 81. This is my first exotic grow, so I'm excited to share the experience! I got 3 females out of the pack, and they're all pretty different.They've all been topped. The one in the center is the star so far. One of its branches is popping out 4 nodes on basically the same level. Its trunk is also twice as thick as the other two. I'll be flowering them in about a week. (Also, the one on the right is like that because I moved it with some finishing autos and didn't think about light distance for some reason, poor girl :c)
 

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bobrown14

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Hey Starris - what are your pictures of?? Everything looks turned on end for some reason and cant see what the object of your photos are?
Suggestion - put object of photo in center with a ground around it so viewers have context.... then do the ROTATE so we can see what you want us to see. You at the very least need to be able to rotate your pics. Thats common sense and courtesy. Thank you....
 

kingzt

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Can anybody help me. I know this is a wierd question but I have seemed to mix up my seed containers recently. I have two packs, one black mamba and the other labyrinth. I did not label them and I don't know which is which. However one is clear green and one is a solid green. I ordered the blck mamba last year I belive and the labyrinth a couple months ago. Did exotic start using a clear or solid green container recently or later last year?
 

eastcoastled

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All of my exotic seeds are solid green. Black Mamba was one of the last strains i ordered, and that was prob a year ago. Everything else is older. I would say it's safe to say the clear container is newer.
 

bobrown14

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Can anybody help me. I know this is a wierd question but I have seemed to mix up my seed containers recently. I have two packs, one black mamba and the other labyrinth. I did not label them and I don't know which is which. However one is clear green and one is a solid green. I ordered the blck mamba last year I belive and the labyrinth a couple months ago. Did exotic start using a clear or solid green container recently or later last year?
Ah bro you messed up.. been running Exotic gear for a few years and they are all solid green!

The good thing is.... after about 20 days above ground I can tell you which is which!

Run em both... or just close your eyes and pic one. All going to be fire.
 

kingzt

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Thanks everyone, see I grew the black mamba and it did not turn out well. I popped 5 seeds and got 2 females. One was just terrible that had no smell or flavor and the other did look pretty dank but ended up being a hermi. I really wanted a mint chocolate pheno.
 

bobrown14

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Thanks everyone, see I grew the black mamba and it did not turn out well. I popped 5 seeds and got 2 females. One was just terrible that had no smell or flavor and the other did look pretty dank but ended up being a hermi. I really wanted a mint chocolate pheno.

Not sure if troll! ??
 

eastcoastled

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Thanks everyone, see I grew the black mamba and it did not turn out well. I popped 5 seeds and got 2 females. One was just terrible that had no smell or flavor and the other did look pretty dank but ended up being a hermi. I really wanted a mint chocolate pheno.
I went back and looked at your pics of the black mamba....looked like it was a keeper on bag appeal alone. What type of hermi issues did you have? I have only had one true herm, and it was a sour d cross from topdog, I posted pics in the thread. I only mention it b/c it is the first time i have ever encountered a true herm. Late flower sacs happen due to conditions that aren't perfect/running shit too long. Early sacs can appear due to unknown, environmental stress/what i will call adaptive stress. I only ask b/c it seems like the easiest way to knock a breeder is to throw the herm term out there....but no one wants to learn about what could have caused it. @bobrown14 mentioned the possibility of you being a troll, but i did not see that from your other posts. Plenty of my keepers have hermed at some point...whether it was lower sacs on the first run, or late flower, they have had an issue somewhere.....but all have also had a flawless run! I would only request that you elaborate on you experience to help the rest of us out. Maybe you explained the issue, and i missed it, but the word hermi really means nothing these days......it is mainly based on unexperienced/uneducated growers that think they are dealing with a computer program with rules(aka breeders descriptions) vs a living organism that is just going to do whatever the fuck it wants!
 

kingzt

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I went back and looked at your pics of the black mamba....looked like it was a keeper on bag appeal alone. What type of hermi issues did you have? I have only had one true herm, and it was a sour d cross from topdog, I posted pics in the thread. I only mention it b/c it is the first time i have ever encountered a true herm. Late flower sacs happen due to conditions that aren't perfect/running shit too long. Early sacs can appear due to unknown, environmental stress/what i will call adaptive stress. I only ask b/c it seems like the easiest way to knock a breeder is to throw the herm term out there....but no one wants to learn about what could have caused it. @bobrown14 mentioned the possibility of you being a troll, but i did not see that from your other posts. Plenty of my keepers have hermed at some point...whether it was lower sacs on the first run, or late flower, they have had an issue somewhere.....but all have also had a flawless run! I would only request that you elaborate on you experience to help the rest of us out. Maybe you explained the issue, and i missed it, but the word hermi really means nothing these days......it is mainly based on unexperienced/uneducated growers that think they are dealing with a computer program with rules(aka breeders descriptions) vs a living organism that is just going to do whatever the fuck it wants!
One of the phenos I got did look pretty good. Unfortunately when I harvested is when I realized that it hermied. I don't want to point the finger completely at the strain but my environment has been dialed in. I could of pushed it too hard when fertilizing it or maybe it was the plants lst dying effort. I didn't notice it until I harvested where I noticed some sacks underneath some of the colas. This plant got seeded pretty bad. I wish I would of caught but I didn't because some other plants got some seeds too but this pheno of the mamba was the worst and the only one with sacs.
Anyways that pheno did look good smoked alright also but no smell. I really wanted a mint pheno. I grew out labyrinth my next bath and had a great pheno but I didn't keep a cut because I wasn't sure of what I would get. I do want to try again because it did turn out so good.
 

bobrown14

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Only reason I mentioned troll .... first post I got hermies... Sometimes folks don't distinguish between nanners and ball sacks. Of course completely different animals for sure. To get to harvest time and the grower didn't notice ball sacks is kind of misleading at best.
IMHO - not noticing male bits until you found seeds is growers fault. When seeing ball sacks on a plant, the key is SEEING them. Don't you look closely at your plants for insects and other potential disasters waiting to happen? I mean seriously and I'm not trying to be a dick but not seeing balls until after harvest, to me doesn't make any sense. Nanners... always looking for them late in flower balls sacks are much larger and easier to see... I run REGULAR seeds so always looking for balls. They are hard to miss!
 
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