FAST & CHEAP Cloning.
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stumpjumper
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LMAO I can't believe all the shit you guys go through to root clones... it's so simple and ya'll make it out to be a freakin science.. You don't even need rooting hormone or none of all that other shit.
Sand is all you need.
Sand is all you need.
stoned cockatoo
New Member
How helpful. I guess I'll just get me a bucket of sand stick some clones in it thanks again for the help and sharing your fantastic method
AzCannaMan
Active Member
LMFAO!
I agree !!
I have seen them pop in about 4 days, but ready to transplant in three ?? Come on now. LOL
209 Cali closet grower
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with my water and bubbler;dwc, I'm already getting stubs at 4 days
No rooting powders: dome, rockwool, misting, bs nutes.
No rooting powders: dome, rockwool, misting, bs nutes.
SFguy
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YA I GET THE LITLE DIMPLES TOO AROUND DAY 3-4-5 BUT I DONT COUTN IT UNTILL THEY SWELL AND POP ROOTS CAUSE i have had 1-2 not root sometimes. i have had 3 batches of clones from my bucket i originally posted that in july sometime.. well actually the third hasnt popped roots yet. but so0n enuff soon enuff..
heres a few shots of the batch comin out... 209.. heres to some stubs.. hehehheh....
i changed the cloner, i made my own collars and they work TERRIFFIC. i gt a pool noodle from the dollar store and cut 1in lengths and slice them so i can curl it up 100 + fo 1 dollar.. PM ME for a demo if needed.. its basic tho
my hydro store didnt have them on hand so i figured i could make 1 faster than 1 week order time and cheaper than $20 for 30... BUT I DO SHOP LOCAL ALOT... ill smoke to that
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stumpjumper
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Pretty much....... sifted playbox or beach sand, stick your cutting in. Keep it moist and in indirect light.
|B3RNY|
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No, I'm not talking about dimples or 'acne'... the fact that you know the dimples are there tells me that you are either using an aerocloner or pulling the stems out of the medium to check, both of which will only cause the rooting process to take longer. Lol, if you don't believe it, I really don't care- stick to your 8-10 days. I will prove you wrong, just like I do with every troll who wants to fuck around and be an asshole.
I realize how cheap aerocloners are, I've built/used them with great results, but they aren't as quick or cheap as said method. In rockwool, these cuttings will take 2-3 extra days, I use jiffy pellets exclusively (and I grow only hydro inside, soil outside.) Cuttings begin the rooting process the second they are cut form the mother, you should be able to get "nubs" within 24 hours, if not then you are holding yourself back somehow.
I do NOT recommend heating pads, with my method (at the beginning of the thread) you will have transplantable roots (about 1/2" out from peat pellet) in THREE days; there's no reason to add or take anything away because you won't get them rooted any faster, it just won't happen.I do not allow roots to get any longer (than 1/2") before being transplanted, they are very delicate and light degrades roots every second it touches them. Maybe that's why your processes take so much longer but your only doing that to yourself, there's no reason you should be allowing your roots to grow to an inch or more before transplanting; that's sheer laziness.
If you ar ejust here to argue then go somewhere else, this thread is not for you. If you're happy with clones that root in a week or 10 days then by all means- stick to it! I really don't care, this is to encourage new growers to try it out. I started with this method and have yet to find a better one. Aerocloners aren't worth $300 (or $10 for that matter) when you can spend $10 and grow faster roots. I have also had 100% success this way (at around 200 total cuts.)
I realize how cheap aerocloners are, I've built/used them with great results, but they aren't as quick or cheap as said method. In rockwool, these cuttings will take 2-3 extra days, I use jiffy pellets exclusively (and I grow only hydro inside, soil outside.) Cuttings begin the rooting process the second they are cut form the mother, you should be able to get "nubs" within 24 hours, if not then you are holding yourself back somehow.
I do NOT recommend heating pads, with my method (at the beginning of the thread) you will have transplantable roots (about 1/2" out from peat pellet) in THREE days; there's no reason to add or take anything away because you won't get them rooted any faster, it just won't happen.I do not allow roots to get any longer (than 1/2") before being transplanted, they are very delicate and light degrades roots every second it touches them. Maybe that's why your processes take so much longer but your only doing that to yourself, there's no reason you should be allowing your roots to grow to an inch or more before transplanting; that's sheer laziness.
If you ar ejust here to argue then go somewhere else, this thread is not for you. If you're happy with clones that root in a week or 10 days then by all means- stick to it! I really don't care, this is to encourage new growers to try it out. I started with this method and have yet to find a better one. Aerocloners aren't worth $300 (or $10 for that matter) when you can spend $10 and grow faster roots. I have also had 100% success this way (at around 200 total cuts.)
Laney
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So, you had the neoprene collars before, I guess. I have a bubble cloner and I'm not impressed. I hope my dollar store has "pool noodles", lol.
Do you add anything to the water?
mike91sr
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I made a 15site bubble cloner that I'm happy with, plain RO water. Cost me less than $7 to make(and no recurring medium costs). 15/15 have full roots within 6 days, here's day 6 and 12 on the latest batch.
I'd be interested to see someone fully root clones in 3 days. Never seen them ready for transplant in less than a week.
|B3RNY|
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Here's the edited version (it was too late for me to edit the original post.) Most of these are pictures I had "laying around."
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I work with a lot of 'easy-to-clone' strains but I thought I would share my method, my cuttings root in anywhere from 3 to 9 days- (depending on the strain.)
This method is nothing too original or impressive but it costs just a tiny bit of work, TINY bit of $$$ and a tiny bit of patience.
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Materials:
*Good Mother Plant
*Scissors- free (laying around the house)
*Tall bowl or cup- free (out of the kitchen cabinet)
*Exacto knife (or razorblade)- $1 or 2
*Schultz's Rooting powder (the cheapest stuff made I think, less than $5-available at Kmart/Walmart/Lowe's)
*Rockwool Cubes or Jiffy Pellets- Cheap enough
*1 Small-Medium transparent tote w/lid- possibly free, possibly 3 dollars..
*Spray Bottle- $1, everywhere.
*Nutrients/Superthrive (optional)- You most likely already ahve some of these.
*Small fluorescent/C.F.L. light (ALSO optonal!! This method requires minimum light.)
*Alcohol/Peroxide- $1
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1. Use the alcohol/peroxide to sanitize the scissors, exacto knife and the bowl (or cup) and the inside of the clear plastic tote. Then, take cuttings using the scissors (preferrably 2-6mm in diameter), 2-5 nodes down on each branch (they say cuttings taken form the bottom of the plant will root faster but I have not noticed a difference, my cuttings root at about the same time.) Then place the cuttings directly into the bowl/cup of ROOM TEMPERATURE water.
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2. Take as many cuttings as desired, then trim the bottom node(s) off (trimming as usual) and cut the bigger leaves in half (optional, but I've found this helps my cuttings much as larger fan leaves cause over-transpiration.) Make a 2nd cut (using razor/VERY sharp scissors) just below the node you wish to root.
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3. Dip the end of each cutting into some rooting powder, THEN dip into back into the water (this removes excess powder and gets those cuttings to root even faster.) Finally, stick your cutting down (about 1") into the medium like a rockwool cube, jiffy pellet, etc. (the smaller, the better - thick pellets/cubes force roots to grow longer before you can transplant.)) Press the medium FIRMLY up against the stem.
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4. Spray cuttings with a fine mist (small amt. of nutrients optional), covering the foliage then spray a squirt at the base of the plant. Flip your tote upside-down and then place each cutting onto the lid, place the bottom of the tote over the cuttings as a humidity-dome (you will need a tiny bit of ventilation in the tote, I usually just loosely place it onto the lid to allow a little air-flow.
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5. Remove lid 2-3 times a day to get some fresh air and spray them with a fine mist again, do not allow the medium to dry out! Temperature is (form my experience) best at around 77 degrees F and humidity at around 45-60% (in the room, misting the inside of the tote keeps cuttings at about 70% humidity.) Cuttings will root very quickly and do not require their own light (regular room light or the side of your grow room will do.)
In a few days, they are transplanted and starting to veg.
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These are the 1st clones I ever cut, 100% success.
View attachment 2296811
This method is very simple but this is the way I've come to take all of my cuttings because most of my cuts root in 3-4 days, I do not feel obligated to spend more money or get rooting gel since I do not believe cuttings could possibly root any faster (from cut-to-transplant.) Once you have your materials, you only need a growing medium to take 1000's of cuttings... for pennies each!!
*Water mother plants (or for hydro, leach nitrogen by foliar feeding with plain water) 20 minutes before taking cuttings for a even stronger result/quicker roots.
1 of my DNA Lemon Skunk cuttings outside:
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1 of my early Dinafem Critical+ cuttings in flower.
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1 of my harvested tops.
View attachment 2296845
Smoke it!!
As soon as I am finished flowering this round I will add the requested "time-stamped photos" to prove I get roots in 3 days... until then believe what you want.
View attachment 2296812
I work with a lot of 'easy-to-clone' strains but I thought I would share my method, my cuttings root in anywhere from 3 to 9 days- (depending on the strain.)
This method is nothing too original or impressive but it costs just a tiny bit of work, TINY bit of $$$ and a tiny bit of patience.
View attachment 2296816
Materials:
*Good Mother Plant
*Scissors- free (laying around the house)
*Tall bowl or cup- free (out of the kitchen cabinet)
*Exacto knife (or razorblade)- $1 or 2
*Schultz's Rooting powder (the cheapest stuff made I think, less than $5-available at Kmart/Walmart/Lowe's)
*Rockwool Cubes or Jiffy Pellets- Cheap enough
*1 Small-Medium transparent tote w/lid- possibly free, possibly 3 dollars..
*Spray Bottle- $1, everywhere.
*Nutrients/Superthrive (optional)- You most likely already ahve some of these.
*Small fluorescent/C.F.L. light (ALSO optonal!! This method requires minimum light.)
*Alcohol/Peroxide- $1
View attachment 2296818
1. Use the alcohol/peroxide to sanitize the scissors, exacto knife and the bowl (or cup) and the inside of the clear plastic tote. Then, take cuttings using the scissors (preferrably 2-6mm in diameter), 2-5 nodes down on each branch (they say cuttings taken form the bottom of the plant will root faster but I have not noticed a difference, my cuttings root at about the same time.) Then place the cuttings directly into the bowl/cup of ROOM TEMPERATURE water.
View attachment 2296814
2. Take as many cuttings as desired, then trim the bottom node(s) off (trimming as usual) and cut the bigger leaves in half (optional, but I've found this helps my cuttings much as larger fan leaves cause over-transpiration.) Make a 2nd cut (using razor/VERY sharp scissors) just below the node you wish to root.
View attachment 2296815
3. Dip the end of each cutting into some rooting powder, THEN dip into back into the water (this removes excess powder and gets those cuttings to root even faster.) Finally, stick your cutting down (about 1") into the medium like a rockwool cube, jiffy pellet, etc. (the smaller, the better - thick pellets/cubes force roots to grow longer before you can transplant.)) Press the medium FIRMLY up against the stem.
View attachment 2296841
4. Spray cuttings with a fine mist (small amt. of nutrients optional), covering the foliage then spray a squirt at the base of the plant. Flip your tote upside-down and then place each cutting onto the lid, place the bottom of the tote over the cuttings as a humidity-dome (you will need a tiny bit of ventilation in the tote, I usually just loosely place it onto the lid to allow a little air-flow.
View attachment 2296843
5. Remove lid 2-3 times a day to get some fresh air and spray them with a fine mist again, do not allow the medium to dry out! Temperature is (form my experience) best at around 77 degrees F and humidity at around 45-60% (in the room, misting the inside of the tote keeps cuttings at about 70% humidity.) Cuttings will root very quickly and do not require their own light (regular room light or the side of your grow room will do.)
In a few days, they are transplanted and starting to veg.
View attachment 2296810
These are the 1st clones I ever cut, 100% success.
View attachment 2296811
This method is very simple but this is the way I've come to take all of my cuttings because most of my cuts root in 3-4 days, I do not feel obligated to spend more money or get rooting gel since I do not believe cuttings could possibly root any faster (from cut-to-transplant.) Once you have your materials, you only need a growing medium to take 1000's of cuttings... for pennies each!!
*Water mother plants (or for hydro, leach nitrogen by foliar feeding with plain water) 20 minutes before taking cuttings for a even stronger result/quicker roots.
1 of my DNA Lemon Skunk cuttings outside:
View attachment 2296844
1 of my early Dinafem Critical+ cuttings in flower.
View attachment 2296809
1 of my harvested tops.
View attachment 2296845
Smoke it!!
As soon as I am finished flowering this round I will add the requested "time-stamped photos" to prove I get roots in 3 days... until then believe what you want.
|B3RNY|
Well-Known Member
I don't understand why the pictures came out as attachments but whatev. Laney- I am personally fond of the "paper-towel-in-a-sandwich-baggie" method of germination, I've used other methods but this one turns out to be the quickest/cheapest and best all round method for me. I just moisten a paper towel, throw it in a baggie and put it under the sink for a day or 2- and BAM!! Germination! (Use RO water if you have hard tap water, my tap water is great- so I've always used it with no problems.)
I meant to edit the original, sorry about the double post. :/
Before this summer, I was a complete nOOb to cloning. Now I admitt, I've only had a few strains/phenos that root that quickly (3-ish days, Critical+ and Lemon Skunk were a couple of them) but absolutely none of my cuttings take any longer than 1 week.
I meant to edit the original, sorry about the double post. :/
Before this summer, I was a complete nOOb to cloning. Now I admitt, I've only had a few strains/phenos that root that quickly (3-ish days, Critical+ and Lemon Skunk were a couple of them) but absolutely none of my cuttings take any longer than 1 week.
|B3RNY|
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I do like the fact that the bubble cloners have no recurring media costs. Those are some nice lookin' roots man. This method is just what works best for me, I would like for everybody to stop making it sound so complicated that it scares the new growers from trying it out. Though that hasn't happened much here... I'm surprised. IT'S EASY GUYS!! JUST PICK A METHOD AND TRY IT OUT!! It saves seed money at the very least and allows you to have multiples of your favorite plant, for cheap!!
mike91sr
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Absolutely, I wasnt trying to one-up or anything. Just presenting another low-cost and low-maintenance cloning method. I cant talk down on people overcomplicating things though, as my cloning adventures were a nightmare. Aero, bubbler, rockwool, root riots, powders, hormones, temperature, humidity, lighting. I spent months trying anything to get a reliable cloning method, never got above ~20% until I just starting sticking cuttings in soil for awhile. Came back to give the bubble cloner another shot, and it worked first time with plain water (I think my tap water was part of the original problem)
Laney
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I cloned for the first time this year using an aerocloner and got ten babies, the biggest of which is 5 feet now (the moms are monsters, lol). I am trying a few of the other methods so I can see which ones are most reliable before I plant expensive seeds next Spring. It's taken me 7 years growing outdoors to have the confidence to risk expensive seeds in the wild and unpredictable outdoor environment but I am ready. Thanks for all the input 
missnu
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The easiest way to clone is to make your own aero clone bucket...super cheap and easy, and dead useful...and your clones are ready to plant in a week or less...since it is hydro you can transplant the new clones into any medium with little effort...
I spent less than $30 to make mine...I could have just kept using my bagged solo cup of soil cloning method, but it takes 2 weeks and takes up more room than one 5 gallon bucket that can hold 10 clones...I mean you cut the holes...so the smaller the holes, the more you can fit in the lid...either way, easiest way to clone...but your method is the cheapest
I spent less than $30 to make mine...I could have just kept using my bagged solo cup of soil cloning method, but it takes 2 weeks and takes up more room than one 5 gallon bucket that can hold 10 clones...I mean you cut the holes...so the smaller the holes, the more you can fit in the lid...either way, easiest way to clone...but your method is the cheapest
missnu
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Cloning is super easy...even easier outside...just snag a low to the ground branch and bend it to the ground and put a rock or brick on it, so that the branch meets with the ground and can't pull back up..anyway the branch is still attached to the plant, but the part that is stuck against the ground will grow roots, and then you can just cut it off and plant it wherever...
I think everyone should clone a tomato before they clone MJ...it is so easy to clone tomatoes...hell just stick a glass of water under a branch on a tomato plant and that branch will grow roots trying to get to the water...lol. One of my tomatoes fell over and the whole stalk that was touching the ground threw out a whole set of roots...very interesting...
Cloning is a lot easier than people think...I mean it is just plant nature at it's finest.
I think everyone should clone a tomato before they clone MJ...it is so easy to clone tomatoes...hell just stick a glass of water under a branch on a tomato plant and that branch will grow roots trying to get to the water...lol. One of my tomatoes fell over and the whole stalk that was touching the ground threw out a whole set of roots...very interesting...
Cloning is a lot easier than people think...I mean it is just plant nature at it's finest.