Federal Court ruling celebrated by medical pot users who grow their own

ricky1lung

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VANCOUVER -- Medical marijuana users who grow their own plants breathed a sigh of relief Wednesday as the Federal Court ruled it was unconstitutional to prevent them from doing so.

Vancouver resident Sita von Windheim, who grows her own medical marijuana, reckons she would be out about $80,000, plus the increased cost of her medicine, had the ruling gone the other way.

This is because she spent $35,000 on equipment and making sure the apartment where she grows the plants had the proper fire and ventilation measures in place. She also ripped out the carpet in the apartment and took out the kitchen and bathroom. Restoring the apartment to a state where someone could live there would cost another $50,000, she estimated.

The ruling means von Windheim, who uses medical marijuana to reduce the frequency and intensity of chronic migraine headaches, will be able to continue to grow the strain of marijuana that works for her rather than order it from a government-approved grower for about 10 times what she now spends. Choosing to buy her food at farmers markets, where she can be sure of the source, rather than large grocery store chains is another expression of the same principle, she said.

Mostly, von Windheim said, she was happy Federal Court Judge Michael Phelan recognized that people such as herself, who grow marijuana for their own personal use, should not be lumped in with criminal organizations that profit from its sale.

“He really understood what our situation was,” she said. “My big objection was being called names ... This really kind of vindicates us.”

Her sentiment was echoed by Abbotsford resident John Berfelo, who grows his own marijuana to treat chronic pain stemming from a spinal cord injury.

He felt a sense of violation, he said, that the government wanted to take away something he had spent years learning how to produce and gives him a better quality of life.

“The win today was a win for patients, basically a relief knowing that I’m still able to continue to grow my medicine and not have to grow it in fear, not have to be a criminal in the eyes of the law.”

Premier Christy Clark said while there are a lot of “interesting” ideas floating around about how to regulate marijuana when it eventually becomes legal — such as selling it in drug stores or liquor stores — the province will follow Ottawa’s lead.

“The federal government is going to change the criminal code so that marijuana will be available legally. We haven’t seen yet what those changes are going to look like, but we stand ready as a province to implement them,” she said. “I will say this though: One of the key things we need to address in the province is that when marijuana is legally available, it’s a legal product, it’s not benefiting people in organized crime, that it’s not going to be available to young people, and that it’s a safe product that consumers can rely on.”
 

Lightgreen2k

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no clebrations!!!!!! ...:evil:

a wee bit of relief? :idea:

if that....:roll:
@ricky1lung

Well there is a bit to celebrate but not a lot. If you were already an mmar holder the injuction covered you, had it had gone south and appeal would have been called.

In six months when us current mmar (not mmpr ) here the plant counts, and the new regulations as to how we will be able to grow will count. As for now it's just business as usual.
 

ricky1lung

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@ricky1lung

Well there is a bit to celebrate but not a lot. If you were already an mmar holder the injuction covered you, had it had gone south and appeal would have been called.

In six months when us current mmar (not mmpr ) here the plant counts, and the new regulations as to how we will be able to grow will count. As for now it's just business as usual.
Right, but now comes discrimination against mmpr folks, so it's a win.

The gov has 6 months to ensure the right to grow and other patients are not discriminated against.

It's a win, for everyone.

Congrats to all patients.
 

WHATFG

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So they kind of have to put a limit on things...otherwise they'll have people with sore thumbs growing for "themselves"...kind of the same shit different pile theory....don't get me wrong and I am overjoyed with our victory, yet again...however, I feel we should be cautious....people like blair do not want us growing...
 

VIANARCHRIS

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I'm mmar, so it's business as usual for me, albeit with a lot less stress and worry. I'm celebrating for those that have just won the same rights. My daughter-in-law just got in on a ATP before the change, but ran out of time for her ppl. She will now be able to provide for herself (and leave my stash alone! lol). It's also a good indication that growing will be allowed for recreational. I think it was a very important ruling, and what happens in the next 6 months will be very interesting.
 

gb123

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Are you questioning or complaining about the ruling and the right to grow med cannabis?

You'd think people would celebrate.
The sick celebrate waking up each day....taking medication to survive is just part of that.
Now Rec folks on the other hand can celebrate knowing they can get an RX to help them,...in the mean time anyway. ;)
and soon they can walk into any store and buy it and maybe they'll be able to grow it as well...can't see why not. Just a matter of time really.
 
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ricky1lung

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So they kind of have to put a limit on things...otherwise they'll have people with sore thumbs growing for "themselves"...kind of the same shit different pile theory....don't get me wrong and I am overjoyed with our victory, yet again...however, I feel we should be cautious....people like blair do not want us growing...

They can't stop it. That's what this ruling does.

This ruling has major implications for mj as a whole.
The Harper gov tried, and failed to have grow rights removed. They tried, and failed to institute a new system to prohibit grows.

This ruling will force grow rights for everyone, even for rec when it's legalized. The gov cannot say one group has the right to grow and another does not. It's clear discrimination and will be tossed out of any court.

This is a giant win for all cannabis users in Canada.
 

ricky1lung

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The sick celebrate waking up each day....taking medication to survive is just part of that.
Now Rec folks on the other hand can celebrate knowing they can get a RX to help them,...in the mean time anyway. ;)
and soon they can walk into any store and buy it and maybe they'll be able to grow it as well...can't see why not. Just a matter of time really.

I wish it was that easy. ;)
 

WHATFG

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They can't stop it. That's what this ruling does.

This ruling has major implications for mj as a whole.
The Harper gov tried, and failed to have grow rights removed. They tried, and failed to institute a new system to prohibit grows.

This ruling will force grow rights for everyone, even for rec when it's legalized. The gov cannot say one group has the right to grow and another does not. It's clear discrimination and will be tossed out of any court.

This is a giant win for all cannabis users in Canada.
I agree its a huge win...I'm almost ready to post my pic...hahahahaha....
 

CalyxCrusher

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So they kind of have to put a limit on things...otherwise they'll have people with sore thumbs growing for "themselves"...kind of the same shit different pile theory....don't get me wrong and I am overjoyed with our victory, yet again...however, I feel we should be cautious....people like blair do not want us growing...
Conroy said in his statement pertaining to that specifically that the crown was unable to provide substancial evidence that showed LEGAL patients were abusing the system. They could only provide instances of illegal grows

Much like the fire, mould and organized crime, this found to be a moot point by the courts as evidence wasnt adequate enough to support allegations. Also the fact that although all medical patients use cannabis, everyones needs are different and dosages vary. Just like any other prescription

So they may want to limit plant counts, but the court, found no wrong doing in that particular avenue
 

doingdishes

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i hope they alter that 150g limit. it ridiculous. Phelan himself quoted the 18g average
i see this as a delayed win. i need to start a garden NOW...that way i can have meds in 4 months but since i have to wait 6 months to look into starting, i may not get anything for another year.
another year of having very little money and being under medicated...but it's better than a loss. at least now there's a light at the end of the tunnel
 

WHATFG

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i hope they alter that 150g limit. it ridiculous. Phelan himself quoted the 18g average
i see this as a delayed win. i need to start a garden NOW...that way i can have meds in 4 months but since i have to wait 6 months to look into starting, i may not get anything for another year.
another year of having very little money and being under medicated...but it's better than a loss. at least now there's a light at the end of the tunnel
Ya that makes going anywhere....even camping, limited...I will have to send some forward or have a source lined up if I go home...
 
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