Feed Plan?

Here is more details on my grow:

I have just flipped to flower in a new room. I'm a relative newbie.

In veg I have been feeding with compost tea, worm tea and fish hydrosolate-veg.

For flower, what should I feed?

1. Here is the basic plan I had in mind, please tell me any thoughts or recommendations....

Top Dress or Aerated Tea:
Continue on the worm castings/tea
Fish Hydrosolate-Bloom
Molasses
Compost
Mung Bean Seed Sprout Tea (not aerated)

I have ordered some rock phosphate, but I am not sure how to use it. Would it fit with my above plan?
How is my above plan, honestly?

2. I also spoke with one soil tester/amendment broker who recommended to buy the following for flower:
TOP DRESS: bonemeal/crabmeal/epsom salt/humic/kelpmeal
TEA: wormcastings, kelpextract, molasses and potassium humate

3. As a third option, I could just buy the BioBizz bottled organic nutes (at a slightly high markup, imported).

What is everyone's thoughts on how to proceed with this organic flowering?

They appear light green?Could just be the light.

she's craving for food man

don't switch to 12/12

feed her with a big dose of veg nutrient

biobizz is great, at this stage i woud give 4mL
then 2ml every watering until it gets healthy green

if you just swiched to 12/12 for 1 days or 2 put it back on the 18/6 schedule

start bloom now would give you a diminshed result

edit: is that flower i see forming ? if yes keep going but increase the feed

Overgrowtho said:

Here is more details on my grow:

Organic Wedding Cake and Blue Cheese / Week 10 / Early Flower / Nutes okay?

I am running 590 watt LED in 4x4x4.5 C02 1,100 Temps around 29 C RH around 55 Super Soil medium 5 gallon pots Feeding fish hydrosolate (bloom) weekly Every 10 days started to do a mung bean seed sprout tea Occasional feed or tea Earth Worm Castings (havent recently) How do they look? Seems to...

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I have just flipped to flower in a new room. I'm a relative newbie.

In veg I have been feeding with compost tea, worm tea and fish hydrosolate-veg.

For flower, what should I feed?

1. Here is the basic plan I had in mind, please tell me any thoughts or recommendations....

Top Dress or Aerated Tea:
Continue on the worm castings/tea
Fish Hydrosolate-Bloom
Molasses
Compost
Mung Bean Seed Sprout Tea (not aerated)

I have ordered some rock phosphate, but I am not sure how to use it. Would it fit with my above plan?
How is my above plan, honestly?

2. I also spoke with one soil tester/amendment broker who recommended to buy the following for flower:
TOP DRESS: bonemeal/crabmeal/epsom salt/humic/kelpmeal
TEA: wormcastings, kelpextract, molasses and potassium humate

3. As a third option, I could just buy the BioBizz bottled organic nutes (at a slightly high markup, imported).

What is everyone's thoughts on how to proceed with this organic flowering?

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I've never used "teas", or fish hydrosolate. Rock phosphate might benefit your grow if you reuse your soil for the next 10 years. But then again, normally if I reuse soil in an indoor no-till or outdoor environment I'm scared to death of phosphate excess, so I avoid it. Considering you're paying for advice from a soil tester/broker, then I guess you've given them your soil and/or tissue samples and these are the results of their analysis. Can you show us, pretty please?

No didn't pay or analyze. Just spoke as more like a friend. Yes they are craving nitrogen but I already flipped to flower. Now I'm brewing up worm castings with compost and hydrosolate and humic, mycroriza and kelp extract. I guess when I water in 24 hr this should make em darker green again hopefully.

But what to do longer term for the rest of flower?

kingromano said:

she's craving for food man

don't switch to 12/12

feed her with a big dose of veg nutrient

biobizz is great, at this stage i woud give 4mL
then 2ml every watering until it gets healthy green

if you just swiched to 12/12 for 1 days or 2 put it back on the 18/6 schedule

start bloom now would give you a diminshed result

edit: is that flower i see forming ? if yes keep going but increase the feed

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Yes started to flower about 12 days ago.

Okay I guess I need to buy some Biobizz

I agree about the plants looking hungry. And that you could use some N, even though you've gone 12/12.

What have you got with some nitrogen?

After speaking more with the soil tester/amendment broker, instead of Biobizz I decided I will top dress every 2 weeks from this package:

1kg Bonemeal
1kg Crabmeal
1kg Epsom Salt
1kg Kelp Meal
250 gr Humic
750 gr Azomite
laced with our proprietary quantum biostimulant

As for the Nitrogen fix at present I'm going to now feed a worm castings with compost and fish hydrosolate and humic, mycroriza and kelp extract aerated tea this morning.

For continued teas about weekly, I will feed an aerated tea of: bloom fish hydrosolate, wormcastings, kelpextract, molasses and potassium humate to help blooming.

How does it all sound?

Overgrowtho said:

After speaking more with the soil tester/amendment broker, instead of Biobizz I decided I will top dress every 2 weeks from this package:

1kg Bonemeal
1kg Crabmeal
1kg Epsom Salt
1kg Kelp Meal
250 gr Humic
750 gr Azomite
laced with our proprietary quantum biostimulant

As for the Nitrogen fix at present I'm going to now feed a worm castings with compost and fish hydrosolate and humic, mycroriza and kelp extract aerated tea this morning.

For continued teas about weekly, I will feed an aerated tea of: bloom fish hydrosolate, wormcastings, kelpextract, molasses and potassium humate to help blooming.

How does it all sound?

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I heard Epsom salt can build up in the soil in pots inside. I've heard it's best to use it as a foliar spray with organics.

But if I was growing in coco with GH nutes I'd use it.

Where is the nitrogen bro?!

youraveragehorticulturist said:

Where is the nitrogen bro?!

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The fish guts i think is his plan?

In my opinion some 2-4-1 fish Hydrolysate and worm castings will Not provide enough nitrogen for the "stretch" or early flower period.

Based on the lime green color of his plants, in his pictures, they have not been getting enough nitrogen lately. They are already behind!

Nitrogen needs are Highest a week or two into 12/12. So the plants are already not getting enough N, and they are about to need more.

Overgrotho said himself, "Yes they are craving nitrogen, but I already flipped to flower." Now I hate to play mind reader, but it seems like dude believes that you can't feed nitrogen to flowering plants. In my opinion this is a mistake!

youraveragehorticulturist said:

In my opinion some 2-4-1 fish Hydrolysate and worm castings will Not provide enough nitrogen for the "stretch" or early flower period.

Based on the lime green color of his plants, in his pictures, they have not been getting enough nitrogen lately. They are already behind!

Nitrogen needs are Highest a week or two into 12/12. So the plants are already not getting enough N, and they are about to need more.

Overgrotho said himself, "Yes they are craving nitrogen, but I already flipped to flower." Now I hate to play mind reader, but it seems like dude believes that you can't feed nitrogen to flowering plants. In my opinion this is a mistake!

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So what is the answer then?What would you feed them to get the N back up?I ask as i have one plant a little light colored also.thx

myke said:

So what is the answer then?What would you feed them to get the N back up?I ask as i have one plant a little light colored also.thx

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you need to increase the EC, not the nitrogen

kingromano said:

you need to increase the EC, not the nitrogen

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Ha,I dont see a bottle thats labelled EC.

Fertelizer
... use your stuff that taking dust organic next grow fast solution and bump the ppm ...

I love organic but men Yes feed them

Alfalfa meal (2.5-1-2.5) top dress. Or alfalfa meal soaked in water, then poured over the soil.

Neem meal (6-1-2) top dress. Insects Frass (3-1-1) top dress.

Bat Guano (7-1-2) top dress or soaked in water for a tea.

Some kind of high nitrogen all-in-one like Happy Frog All Purpose, or Roots Organic Uprising "Grow"

Blood meal top dress

Some BioBizz, Bio Gro formula

Gross fish emulsion (5-1-1)

Literally anything with an N higher than it's P. Whatever is on hand or easy to get. Used alone, or mixed in with the rest of the topdress. The exact details don't matter.

youraveragehorticulturist said:

Alfalfa meal (2.5-1-2.5) top dress. Or alfalfa meal soaked in water, then poured over the soil.

Neem meal (6-1-2) top dress. Insects Frass (3-1-1) top dress.

Bat Guano (7-1-2) top dress or soaked in water for a tea.

Some kind of high nitrogen all-in-one like Happy Frog All Purpose, or Roots Organic Uprising "Grow"

Blood meal top dress

Some BioBizz, Bio Gro formula

Gross fish emulsion (5-1-1)

Literally anything with an N higher than it's P. Whatever is on hand or easy to get. Used alone, or mixed in with the rest of the topdress. The exact details don't matter.

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Thanks,i like the idea of soaking in water.Ive been dropping a tbls of 444 in my water bucket for daily watering.Ill add some frass.

I've never tried soaking insect frass. I'm not sure how water soluable it is. Experiments are always cool,but maybe topdress with that stuff.

youraveragehorticulturist said:

I've never tried soaking insect frass. I'm not sure how water soluable it is. Experiments are always cool,but maybe topdress with that stuff.

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I think it will just float on top. When I get home I’ll try. Thanks for your help.