"Feeds up to 3 months"

Rolla123

Active Member
I recently bought some organic soil to start my seeds in. On the bag it says it "feeds up to 3 months" does that mean I'm going to have to add the nutrients the plant needs after 3 months and if I don't plants die??
 

Dumme

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I think you're reading into advertising too much. Probably tested to feeds house plants, not high fruiting plants.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
I think you're reading into advertising too much. Probably tested to feeds house plants, not high fruiting plants.
i tend to agree with this.. even soil that comes with nutrients already added in usually won't be enough to carry a cannabis plant on it's own for a solid 3 months with no outside help ime..
what brand did you buy? as far as knowing if you need to feed a cannabis plant or not, it's usually not too hard to tell when they start to get hungry.. usually growth will start to slow down a good amount, then you might start to see signs of deficiencies if you don't start to feed them, things like yellowing of leaves, brown and or rust colored spots, etc, etc..
so long as the plants are growing a nice pace and are keeping their green, i'd not worry too much about feeding, only when you see these things start to change.. keep an eye on your plant, learn how it grows and when it grows.. learn to tell when she's hungry and or thirsty by looking at it..
 

Rolla123

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i tend to agree with this.. even soil that comes with nutrients already added in usually won't be enough to carry a cannabis plant on it's own for a solid 3 months with no outside help ime..
what brand did you buy? as far as knowing if you need to feed a cannabis plant or not, it's usually not too hard to tell when they start to get hungry.. usually growth will start to slow down a good amount, then you might start to see signs of deficiencies if you don't start to feed them, things like yellowing of leaves, brown and or rust colored spots, etc, etc..
so long as the plants are growing a nice pace and are keeping their green, i'd not worry too much about feeding, only when you see these things start to change.. keep an eye on your plant, learn how it grows and when it grows.. learn to tell when she's hungry and or thirsty by looking at it..
I can't remember the brand, I can't just look at it cause it's not at my house at the moment haha, but it's locally produced with what I remember worm castings, peat moss, and atleast one other nutrient that's good for cannabis that I can't remember. I planned on trying out blood meal, bone meal, and Epsom salts as nutes and also some silicon to keep the plant strong on an already "hardy" strain, Kaya gold. Then molasses during flowering stage. I was leaning away from any nutes at all because of the complication of making the mixture. But if it's necessary obviously I would put forth the effort. This is my first grow and wasn't looking to invest a lot of money Into it just in case something went wrong.
 

Dr.Pecker

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I can't remember the brand, I can't just look at it cause it's not at my house at the moment haha, but it's locally produced with what I remember worm castings, peat moss, and atleast one other nutrient that's good for cannabis that I can't remember. I planned on trying out blood meal, bone meal, and Epsom salts as nutes and also some silicon to keep the plant strong on an already "hardy" strain, Kaya gold. Then molasses during flowering stage. I was leaning away from any nutes at all because of the complication of making the mixture. But if it's necessary obviously I would put forth the effort. This is my first grow and wasn't looking to invest a lot of money Into it just in case something went wrong.
If you mix composted cow manure and add some perlite to your soil, all you will need to do is water 2 parts manure one part perlite one part potting mix. save all that blood and bone ect. for later if you end up needing it. I have a little bit of everything on hand as far as dry amendments go. I made 100s of gallons of super soil, I still have some and I still use it but I have to dilute it a little because it is powerful. Sounds like you're on the right track brother you're in good hands.
 

kiwipaulie

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If you don't want to have to add liquid nutes is to just keep potting up through veg and then normally pot up just before flowering. Each time you pot up, you essentially are feeding it :)

Some plants depending on the final pot size might need some for of fertiliser if showing deficiencies.

I've got some plants in organic soil at the moment, coming into 6th week flowering and havnt feed them really anything but tap water and they look great. :)
 

Dr.Pecker

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If you don't want to have to add liquid nutes is to just keep potting up through veg and then normally pot up just before flowering. Each time you pot up, you essentially are feeding it :)

Some plants depending on the final pot size might need some for of fertiliser if showing deficiencies.

I've got some plants in organic soil at the moment, coming into 6th week flowering and havnt feed them really anything but tap water and they look great. :)
On that note, its best to pot up two to three weeks before you flower, so the roots have time to fill the pot. Otherwise it might distract the plant into growing roots when it should be focusing on flowering. Get a solid root structure then flower.
 

kiwipaulie

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On that note, its best to pot up two to three weeks before you flower, so the roots have time to fill the pot. Otherwise it might distract the plant into growing roots when it should be focusing on flowering. Get a solid root structure then flower.
There's no issue potting up even In flower if its required. I've never had any issues doing it and I don't generally get any slow down when transplanting and if I do, its only a day or two max.

Each to their own I guess.
 

Dr.Pecker

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There's no issue potting up even In flower if its required. I've never had any issues doing it and I don't generally get any slow down when transplanting and if I do, its only a day or two max.

Each to their own I guess.
Try potting up and wait a week, see what happens. Over sized pots are good.
 

Rolla123

Active Member
Thanks for all the good advice I think I'm getting it figured out. One more question tho, right now I have some peat moss pots that are small to start my seeds in. If I used those then when I need to go up to a bigger size would it work if I went straight to 10 gallon? I would think if I did that all the soil that hasn't been touched by roots would still have all the nutrients in there and it would take awhile for my cannabis to "eat" up 10 gallon of nutrients quickly. If not I'll just take steps up to bigger and bigger containers at a time
 

Rolla123

Active Member
If you don't want to have to add liquid nutes is to just keep potting up through veg and then normally pot up just before flowering. Each time you pot up, you essentially are feeding it :)

Some plants depending on the final pot size might need some for of fertiliser if showing deficiencies.

I've got some plants in organic soil at the moment, coming into 6th week flowering and havnt feed them really anything but tap water and they look great. :)
That's what I was hoping to do besides the silicon and molasses but those are 2 very simple additives. What your saying is adding nutrients yourself is recommended but not needed? Like I said its my first grow this year doing it outdoors. Next year will be the year I go all out because I will have more of the resources ranging from location to money and all this years basically just to get it done you know? Also look at my other comment here about the 10 gallon pots please.
 

kiwipaulie

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That's what I was hoping to do besides the silicon and molasses but those are 2 very simple additives. What your saying is adding nutrients yourself is recommended but not needed? Like I said its my first grow this year doing it outdoors. Next year will be the year I go all out because I will have more of the resources ranging from location to money and all this years basically just to get it done you know? Also look at my other comment here about the 10 gallon pots please.
The only people that really recommend it are the people trying to sell you shit.

Think if it this way, if you grow veges etc, how often do you add nutrients and there are plenty on the market - me - zero, as its all in the soil.

I give my big fruiting trees nutrients, but they need a hit of slow release once a year.

Canna is is not some special plant that defys the rules of general horticulture. People just make it harder for themselves.

It's like how people check run off on soil grows. Definitely not recommended!
 

kiwipaulie

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10gal pots are good if you plan to veg for at least two months.y last grow was in 9 odd gallon pots and the plants were much bigger than the current 5 gal pots (with the same veg time - 8 weeks)

If you want real growth and yield. Ditch the soil all together and build yourself a rdwc. I've grown years in organic soil and just doing my first true hydro. Its been so much more fun than soil and the growth is so much faster its unbelievable. Wish I did this 20 years ago.
 

Rolla123

Active Member
The only people that really recommend it are the people trying to sell you shit.

Think if it this way, if you grow veges etc, how often do you add nutrients and there are plenty on the market - me - zero, as its all in the soil.

I give my big fruiting trees nutrients, but they need a hit of slow release once a year.

Canna is is not some special plant that defys the rules of general horticulture. People just make it harder for themselves.

It's like how people check run off on soil grows. Definitely not recommended!
That's a good point I know plenty of people with gardens and all they do is water it with there water hose and everything grows perfectly fine.
 

Dr.Pecker

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Thanks for all the good advice I think I'm getting it figured out. One more question tho, right now I have some peat moss pots that are small to start my seeds in. If I used those then when I need to go up to a bigger size would it work if I went straight to 10 gallon? I would think if I did that all the soil that hasn't been touched by roots would still have all the nutrients in there and it would take awhile for my cannabis to "eat" up 10 gallon of nutrients quickly. If not I'll just take steps up to bigger and bigger containers at a time
You can do that, just grow them a little and let them stretch their legs before you flower. I would try in 5 gallon pot first because a ten gallon pot will grow a very large plant and you might not need all that. Those brown peat cups are the worst thing to start a plant in. They mold and it will destroy your roots. Find some good plastic containers. seedlings tend to like deeper containers because they have that tap root. Clones do well in shorter, wider containers.
 

Rolla123

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10gal pots are good if you plan to veg for at least two months.y last grow was in 9 odd gallon pots and the plants were much bigger than the current 5 gal pots (with the same veg time - 8 weeks)

If you want real growth and yield. Ditch the soil all together and build yourself a rdwc. I've grown years in organic soil and just doing my first true hydro. Its been so much more fun than soil and the growth is so much faster its unbelievable. Wish I did this 20 years ago.
Do you have any pics of this grow, just want to get an estimate on how big my plants will be, but I do plan on mainlining them also, and yes I know a l
You can do that, just grow them a little and let them stretch their legs before you flower. I would try in 5 gallon pot first because a ten gallon pot will grow a very large plant and you might not need all that. Those brown peat cups are the worst thing to start a plant in. They mold and it will destroy your roots. Find some good plastic containers. seedlings tend to like deeper containers because they have that tap root. Clones do well in shorter, wider containers.
alright well I will defenintly switch to something different, probably just some red solos with a hole in them. Or any plastic old cup I have around my house. I did not know that about the peat moss pots I saw that they claimed to be good for drainage when you transplant that's what caught my attention to them. And I'm ordering 10 gallon grow bags off amazon, a whole pack is under $20 for 25 of them which is the smallest pack I could find haha so it's going to save me money besides pots. But I'm going for a big yield. So why not go for 10 gallon, planting 3 feminized then 2 regular seeds so hoping for atleast 4 females. In those 10 gal bags outdoors I plan to get a super bushy crop, topping and LST all them.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
You can do that, just grow them a little and let them stretch their legs before you flower. I would try in 5 gallon pot first because a ten gallon pot will grow a very large plant and you might not need all that. Those brown peat cups are the worst thing to start a plant in. They mold and it will destroy your roots. Find some good plastic containers. seedlings tend to like deeper containers because they have that tap root. Clones do well in shorter, wider containers.
i started some veggie seeds in those peat pots this year.. they were doing great, then one day, out of no where, the pots were completely covered in mold.. had to replant them in different containers..
 

Dr.Pecker

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i started some veggie seeds in those peat pots this year.. they were doing great, then one day, out of no where, the pots were completely covered in mold.. had to replant them in different containers..
same thin happened to me and when I went to repot them the roots disintegrated into nothing.
 
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