fertilizer.. help me about this things

hello guys..

i have read article about fertilized section..
they said for fert. amount should :

for veg requirments needs 20-5-5
and
for flowering requirments needs 5-15-5


after i read about that article, today im going to local garden shop and i buy a NPK fert, but, i can't find the actual amount like the articel said.. im just find the NPK is "closed" to the amount of the article said..

so im buy this that "nearly" closed to the requirments :

for veg :
label : i dont know, there's no label, i think its local product
NPK : 16 - 5 - 5 + ( 35Na20 + 0,2 B )


for flower :
brand : Hyponex
NPK : 20 - 20 - 20
spesification :
- nitrogen 20%
- phosporic acid ( P2O5 ) 20%
- soluble potash ( K2O ) 20%
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so what do you thing about that ? can i use it ?
because there is too many fert sell there but the amount of NPK is just too high or too small, so i think im just find the closed amount for the requirments..

comments ?!..

help me please..

I think you'd probably be fine using those ferts but only in very small doses. Also, if you go to home depot or lowes you can get Bone Meal and Blood Meal for like $5 and I've really been impressed by them. Plus you can get them organic.

oh ok.. i happy to hear that,, heheheh...

i have ordered blood meal and bone meal from local garden shop.. i hope it will arive soon..

and i want to ask you something about my plants..
my plants just 10 cm tall right know, and the look very small.. what do u think i should do ??.. am i lack of light ? fert ? soil ?
and can they grow more high, with large trunk ? coz the leaves wide about just 5 cm.. am i done here ?

wow you are far from done. Dilute the ferts and increase the fert each time you water. I didn't use anything for one of mine and when i finally did later in it's life it didn't like it. I gave a seedling very diluted ferts and increased in with each watering and wow it made a whole bit of difference. So use your new stuff very sparingly at first and build up. Once you are in flower keep the dilution the same as your last veg feeding. No need to start from scratch again. Focus more on getting a ph meter or test kit and keep the ph within limits. I am finding it hard to keep mine below 7. You want it about 6.6-7 i would say. Do not over water so get a meter that reads moisture too. If you used no fertilizer and just watered you would be ok. You will not kill the plant if you moderate.

For ferts ive had and heard great results with the earth juice organic nutes and the fox farm one's as well add a bloom booster during flowering and you should be good.

I also wouldent use what you have for flowering, it jus looks like a all purpose fert rather than a fert specificly for flowering. You want something with little to no N and high P+K. Yellow leaves may occur but leaves arnt importaint in flowering.

sureep said:

wow you are far from done. Dilute the ferts and increase the fert each time you water. I didn't use anything for one of mine and when i finally did later in it's life it didn't like it. I gave a seedling very diluted ferts and increased in with each watering and wow it made a whole bit of difference. So use your new stuff very sparingly at first and build up. Once you are in flower keep the dilution the same as your last veg feeding. No need to start from scratch again. Focus more on getting a ph meter or test kit and keep the ph within limits. I am finding it hard to keep mine below 7. You want it about 6.6-7 i would say. Do not over water so get a meter that reads moisture too. If you used no fertilizer and just watered you would be ok. You will not kill the plant if you moderate.

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so i must add more ingridients each time i watering ? ohh ok, ill find some PH mater later, coz im running out of budget, but i can fix it.. besides PH meter, what i should buy ? a humdity meter ? another ??
so u mean my plants is small because the PH is problem ai ?

GooDGR3EN13 said:

For ferts ive had and heard great results with the earth juice organic nutes and the fox farm one's as well add a bloom booster during flowering and you should be good.

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thats the problem dude,, there is no fox farm or some kind the stuff like u tell to me in my country, its o difficult to find,, dammit

GooDGR3EN13 said:

I also wouldent use what you have for flowering, it jus looks like a all purpose fert rather than a fert specificly for flowering. You want something with little to no N and high P+K. Yellow leaves may occur but leaves arnt importaint in flowering.

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all right,, so u mean i must find another fert that di N is "0" and the P+k is high right ?? can u tell me the right amount of P+K for flowering ?? for ex : 0-15-15 .. i need ur information..
but in the stores is sell the same fert like that, and the boxes coler is red, and they said is flowering, but im look the NPK is about 25-5-20, but i think its more crazy thant the green one..

huwhhh,, this fert is confusing me..

If you buy the Bone/Blood meal then you probably wont need a ph meter just use them sparingly (like once every 3-5 waterings). Depending on your soil the plants can live without ferts at all.

Awesomo said:

If you buy the Bone/Blood meal then you probably wont need a ph meter just use them sparingly (like once every 3-5 waterings). Depending on your soil the plants can live without ferts at all.

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oh ok.. ill find blodd meal too..
hey guys,, i have contact my garden seller, and they told me he have stuff that named "4 soil" and they sayed this stuff can meassure soil PH, moisture, light intensiti, and fertility.. what do you thing ?? is that enough ? i must buy this ?? if i shloud,, i will buy tommorow,,

Na its pretty simple, alright when your plant is a seedling ( 1st 2 weeks ) DONT USE ANY NUTES!! cant stress that enough, your soil will take care of them nute wise till then. After 2 weeks ide stick with something balanced or has a little more N ex: ( 10-10-10 or 15-10-10 ) make sure there are a few micronutes in there as well DONT OVER FEED. Then for flowering get something like 5-20-20 make sure it has higher P+K. Bloom booster would be good to. I use bloom booster pro only ( 0-50-30 ) and ig works wonders but you gotta be careful with bloom boosters because they will unforgivingly burn the shit outta ya plants with the slightest misuse and like i said keep your pH regulated and you should be good.

GooDGR3EN13 said:

Na its pretty simple, alright when your plant is a seedling ( 1st 2 weeks ) DONT USE ANY NUTES!! cant stress that enough, your soil will take care of them nute wise till then. After 2 weeks ide stick with something balanced or has a little more N ex: ( 10-10-10 or 15-10-10 ) make sure there are a few micronutes in there as well DONT OVER FEED. Then for flowering get something like 5-20-20 make sure it has higher P+K. Bloom booster would be good to. I use bloom booster pro only ( 0-50-30 ) and ig works wonders but you gotta be careful with bloom boosters because they will unforgivingly burn the shit outta ya plants with the slightest misuse and like i said keep your pH regulated and you should be good.

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Also forgot to add stop useing nutes 2 weeks before harvesting or else your bud could tase bad, crackle when you hit and hardly burn.

GooDGR3EN13 said:

Na its pretty simple, alright when your plant is a seedling ( 1st 2 weeks ) DONT USE ANY NUTES!! cant stress that enough, your soil will take care of them nute wise till then. After 2 weeks ide stick with something balanced or has a little more N ex: ( 10-10-10 or 15-10-10 ) make sure there are a few micronutes in there as well DONT OVER FEED. Then for flowering get something like 5-20-20 make sure it has higher P+K. Bloom booster would be good to. I use bloom booster pro only ( 0-50-30 ) and ig works wonders but you gotta be careful with bloom boosters because they will unforgivingly burn the shit outta ya plants with the slightest misuse and like i said keep your pH regulated and you should be good.

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oh.. ok.. iv got it..
but for now, can i use my fert for veg ?? its 16-5-5 enough ?
oh yeah imfoget, i have some miracle gorw tablets right know, and the NPK is about 15-20-15, what do u think if i usefor flower later ??

whywhywhy said:

oh ok.. ill find blodd meal too..
hey guys,, i have contact my garden seller, and they told me he have stuff that named "4 soil" and they sayed this stuff can meassure soil PH, moisture, light intensiti, and fertility.. what do you thing ?? is that enough ? i must buy this ?? if i shloud,, i will buy tommorow,,

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I wouldn't buy it personally. Just see how things are going and if you need it later you can go buy it.

What you are useing for veg looks good but 15-20-15 sounds like an all purpose nute. You'll get flowers, but your yeild probly wouldent be substancial ide go with something like 15-35-15 but if you can get something with higher N+K that would be better.

GooDGR3EN13 said:

What you are useing for veg looks good but 15-20-15 sounds like an all purpose nute. You'll get flowers, but your yeild probly wouldent be substancial ide go with something like 15-35-15 but if you can get something with higher N+K that would be better.

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soo ill keep the miracle grow for now, and i hope is work for my flowering later.....

i just a little stupid about NPK,, i want to ask you about NPK,, i just know that N(nutrition) is for the leaves,, how about P(potassium) and K ?? what is that used for ? the root or the trunk maybe ?? can u describe it for me ??

and if i want to buy another fert that u told me for flower, how mant limits for the P+K ? it should have the limits amout right ?

hey guyss...

iv have find in my garden stores another fertilizer brand,, its GROWMORE... do know that ??

they are soluble fert, and here its some kind of thier products..

- 32-10-10
- 10-55-10
- 6-30-30

what dou u think abut that kinds of fert from GROWMORE ??..

can i use it for one of these ??

and they tell me for the 32-10-10 is very good for veg,, and i think this is the requirments for veg right ??
and for flower the 6-30-30 is good amount i think
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comments please, im going to buy it, if you aggree with this fert

you from spain?

kingc said:

you from spain?

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no im from idonesia

kingc said:

you from spain?

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no im from indonesia