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Dr. Who

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Ok, english isn't my mother tongue so I haven't even heard the name kelp before..
Just a note from earlier.

Your bio bizz should be fine for feeding right off the bat! 100% follow the feed chart.

Don't need to cover the seaweed/kelp issue.

Now then, I did every other day on feeding because as a rule I always - even for soil specific nutes - at least start with the every other day and then you have the ability to GO to everyday IF the plant indicates that it can or more accurately, needs to! It's very easy to increase then have to reduce feeding because the plant has been damaged by too much!

The zyme question! YES, use the Hesi zyme! Hesi's stays active quite long and the real thing is they put other micro nutrients in it.
If you have the ROOTS already use it as directed till gone and then shift to the "seaweed or kelp extract"...... Please use a liquid as the powdered is more likely a kelp meal and that is what we mix in our home built soils.....you don't "feed" with it.

I got nothing for you on that strain - sorry. I have not run it.
 
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Phytium hater

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Thanks Doctor W. ,,,,Now this batch what I have in hydro is getting ready a bit by bit....I was already counting that it is from the alleged flowering time 60-70 days ready on the 15. but realized from posts where you and other guys where talking that the flip isn't the staring point yet for counting flowering ,instead it is when the stretching ends,I need to wait at least extra 10-14 days more + the thrichomes looks a way too clear yet..
Anyway my question is for the end time feeding,,in this I did the slow build up with the PK 13/14(0.25-1.5 ml/1L.water, for like 5-6 weeks + there is some amount left in the tank also basic nutes,,,been keeping the EC around 1.5 and now been lowering it to 1.4 constantly adding just water and keeping the PH in check...nugs look great but I wonder should I consider pump all the PK away and just put new water and just basic nutes for the end,,,,there is around 3 weeks to the (new discovered ending time)
Actually in the short 7-10 days only of PK 13/14 scedule of a feeding ,this is when it' finally added /3 weeks before harvesting) so might be good to keep the PK still in reservoir for some time and then just add basic nutes,,,now because the EC is been going just a bit up by time I'we been compensating with just adding water....sorry bit messy mail not enough clarity but I hope it made some sense...
 
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Dr. Who

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Thanks Doctor W. ,,,,Now this batch what I have in hydro is getting ready a bit by bit....I was already counting that it is from the alleged flowering time 60-70 days ready on the 15. but realized from posts where you and other guys where talking that the flip isn't the staring point yet for counting flowering ,instead it is when the stretching ends,I need to wait at least extra 10-14 days more + the thrichomes looks a way too clear yet..
Anyway my question is for the end time feeding,,in this I did the slow build up with the PK 13/14(0.25-1.5 ml/1L.water, for like 5-6 weeks + there is some amount left in the tank also basic nutes,,,been keeping the EC around 1.5 and now been lowering it to 1.4 constantly adding just water and keeping the PH in check...nugs look great but I wonder should I consider pump all the PK away and just put new water and just basic nutes for the end,,,,there is around 3 weeks to the (new discovered ending time)
Actually in the short 7-10 days only of PK 13/14 scedule of a feeding ,this is when it' finally added /3 weeks before harvesting) so might be good to keep the PK still in reservoir for some time and then just add basic nutes,,,now because the EC is been going just a bit up by time I'we been compensating with just adding water....sorry bit messy mail not enough clarity but I hope it made some sense...
Nah, I deal with college kids all the time.....I got ya! YES = keep the PK in......IF, you abso-fucking-lutely HAVE to do some kinda "flush".......(blaaa)......dump and refill with straight water for the last 24-72 hrs only!!!
 

Phytium hater

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Nope no need , just say "NO" to flush.... I totally agree with your anti-flush movement...:-D
If EC rises I add water to keep it in check from time to time...if its get too low I add some food..
 

RELPHY82

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Whats this anti flush movement? Thought fresh water for a week b4 harvest or your smoking nutes ?
 

Phytium hater

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It is a long story,,about how buds need to get nutes very much close to the end of developing and how the actual buds don't store nutes ...if you flush too long and too early ,you will loose in yields ...it's ok to flush 2-4 days but not really longer....this is hydroponics culture..
there is more science behind it but that is the short version..of the hypothesis...maybe Dr. Who can enlighten you more...or google the
underground movement who supports this direction....there is a secret hand shake and shitt ,its all very cloaks and daggers you know..:-D
 

CanBud

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I have mainly used Botanicare in my few small grows and I gotta say for a soil tent grow with a 1000w HPS...I will be cutting some pretty nice buds down soon considering I had a few burps in the time line.
 

Phytium hater

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What has been your growing media, pre loaded or light mix...any kelp,phosporus,boosters etc.
watering scedules,feeding regime etc.
 

since1991

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Whats this anti flush movement? Thought fresh water for a week b4 harvest or your smoking nutes ?
For a grower that been doing this a long ass time i say whats the deal with bro science flushing bullshit? Flushing is nonsense. If you knew where this bullshit started....the bullshit theory behind it...how its changed over the years into more bullshit....you would realize.....its bullshit. I cant believe this myth has taken off to be gospel over the years. Growers cutting out the nutrients and food cannabis needs for plump juicy buds rite at a critical time. At least taper the ppm down. People dont blast your plants with just water a week or two before harvest....please? Flushing....what utter bullshit.
 

Phytium hater

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Found in my cabin few forgotten bottles of Bio Nova The Missing Link, added that to my reservoir, 2-3 weeks to go before chopping , lets see if it gives some positive effects , for the next soil grow I will use it too, and might get some Bio Nova X-Cell also it has all what Dr.Who recommended , kelp,humus,enzymes ,aminos...etc.
 

since1991

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I found one product here what is seaweed , but I am not sure if it is kelp...and that is sold in a regular gardening shop as a extract
for potted plants. Usually I'we heard that the regular extract and fertilizers which are not really meant for anything like pot have been
not giving good results more problems ...because it is a extract (not shure if kelp)..it might not kill the plants but it still is gambling...
Ou jeah, I forgot there is the Biobizz Alg A Mic...is that proper kelp seaweed..?..and then there is Bionova Algmix...either ain't cheap..
but any regular and cheap kelp is not to be found here..at least I haven't found any yet....I rather buy those from the grow shop than go and do crazy experiments with gardening shop products...because I can't find anybody who has used that gardening seaweed brand ,for pot over here etc.
And yep we have Nitrozyme from Growth Technology also....
So at least 3 seaweed products ..probably even more at grow shops....but kelp seaweed for chop change don't know where to get...
Buy that bottle of Nitrozyme from Growth Tech/HDI bro....trust me. Follow the directions for a foliar spray mixed with some humic/fulvic acid and a wetting agent. Spray your vegging plants with it this once every 5-7 days.....its rocket fuel man. Cytokinins and auxins make your plants bushy like youve never seen. Makes roots explode too. This additive will translate to a bigger and higher quality harvest down the road. I guarantee this. If you keep them nice and healthy and thriving....Nitrozime will put your crop totally over the edge. No joke.
 

Phytium hater

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Yaah, we have it at my favorite grow shop ...I am very interested...if I run in to the kelp stuff I will get it too for shure, but this will sitting right there on the shelf when I walk inn ,,,so it is an easy pick...it probably goes nicely with the TML since I have quite few bottles of it too...
 

MisterBlah

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Whats this anti flush movement? Thought fresh water for a week b4 harvest or your smoking nutes ?
It is a long story,,about how buds need to get nutes very much close to the end of developing and how the actual buds don't store nutes ...if you flush too long and too early ,you will loose in yields ...it's ok to flush 2-4 days but not really longer....this is hydroponics culture..
there is more science behind it but that is the short version..of the hypothesis...maybe Dr. Who can enlighten you more...or google the
underground movement who supports this direction....there is a secret hand shake and shitt ,its all very cloaks and daggers you know..:-D

To add to this: If you feed your plants with water that has ZERO nutrients in it, it will do more harm than good. The plant might be uptaking water, but it's using it's energy to feed on water with nothing in it. Therefore, the plant suffers.

To compare: the reason you do not drink distilled water is because it will be harmful to you, a human being. Tap water has between 100 and 500ppm TDS, and for good reason.
 

Phytium hater

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One day I might get few bulbs of UVB to T-5 lights which I use for early veg . You only have to use them as an extra 2 narrow bulbs + regular lights,,,,so if you add for only 2 last weeks couple of UVB lamps to bring in that spectrum in to the flower you will get 3-5 % more THC in your buds...so if the plant allready is 21% yo will get 26% !!! mind blowing socks off Bruce Banner product...
 

since1991

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Yaah, we have it at my favorite grow shop ...I am very interested...if I run in to the kelp stuff I will get it too for shure, but this will sitting right there on the shelf when I walk inn ,,,so it is an easy pick...it probably goes nicely with the TML since I have quite few bottles of it too...
Nitrozyme is a kelp extract. Very concentrated ascophylum nodosum is the actual name. Super high in hormones that cannabis responds extremely well to.
 

Phytium hater

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Fuck yeah..can't wait to get my next grow going,,,20 big ass plants of Dream Machine ,which promises 1000g/square meter !
 
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