Finding a solution to a new problem.

psychadelibud

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Howdy folks!

I have been spraying my plants this year with BT to prevent those stubborn, useless, pointless, disgusting, shitting, silk worms (bud worms) and caterpillars. Seems to be working pretty well thus far.

Every year around this time in mid to late flower those little bastards start multiplying like cancer, digging into the buds, eating they're way through and dropping nasty balls of shit to begin a botrytis epidemic in a matter of days, destroying those beautiful frosty delicious buds in the high South Eastern Appalachian humidity. Well just a couple of days ago, I ran into a new intruder, one I never imagined being anything else but "welcomed and beneficial" to my girls...

And now the problem...

Spiders.. Yes, not spider mites, not bud worms or caterpillars but spiders, and here's why.

They are small, brownish black looking spiders, that closely resemble a "jumping" spider. I almost believe they are baby jumping spiders, or in between a baby and adult. I have noticed they build thick "cotton like" nest inside the bud or between the sugar leaves and bud itself and the move extremely fast. I will try and get some photos next time I run across one to determine the exact species of spider. Anyway, I notice that in the area of the webbing, bud rot begins to grow within a few days. Of course they disturb the buds, the kill and feed on other insects and the carcasses begin to create fungus. Also those little cotton nest webs they make retain moisture which causes wet spots on that particular area of the bud and it constantly stays wet. This is a small, but serious beginning for a breeding ground for the dreaded botrytis.

Point is, they do cause rot very similar to caterpillars and bud worms. Now, where do I go with preventative measures? BT obviously only works on caterpillars, worms and cock nibblers (sorry just have a passionate hate for bud worms). So the majority of my buds are far into flower, I don't wanna go the chemical road right now and all else I have on hand is a brand new bottle of Insecticidal Soap. Do you guys think this will kill them out? I understand most people favor not spraying buds during mid to late flower with anything, but I always have with zilch problemos.

Any experience or intel gathered on the use of insecticidal soap on small spiders being an effective route of eradication will be greatly appreciated!

Watch out for them, never really noticed them much except for this year.
 

Werp

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I'll just throw this out there and I haven't done any research on the subject but I believe a while back I was reading that nicotine was an effective pesticide (at least against spider mites) it made sense to me and was wondering if anyone else has tried this and what else it might be effective against...maybe all insects? Don't know if would cause any harm to the plants. Maybe someone with more knowledge can weigh in.
 

Sir Napsalot

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I've been using BT for several weeks and have only found two very small areas affected by caterpillars which I was able to pluck out to good effect
 

psychadelibud

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I can't find much info on google searches for using insecticidal soap on spiders.

So it is experiment time! Gonna catch some spiders today, give them a minimal misting of it with the sprayer just to see how it affects them. I know insecticidal soap is a contact killer so with those little bastards hiding shallow in the buds, I know they wont get much on them when I spray so that is why they will get a light dose during testing. Always wanna start testing with the minimal amount to figure out the minimal effort.
 
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