First grow in need of opinions

taGyo

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CFLs won't burn your plants. HIDs will.

Flip that black mat over so it's clean.

Looks 100x better. Thank you for taking advice.
Now what are the ingredients on the back of that flower booster? You have deficiencies, it may be because of PH or because of improper nutrient balances in your soil.
 

ISK

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CFLs won't burn your plants. HIDs will.

Flip that black mat over so it's clean.

Looks 100x better.
even a 23 watt CFL can burn the plant if they touch the leaves for a few hours, but yeah nothing like a HPS

I would take that black mat out and hose it down, as that white stuff is likely the CFL residue

It may be some what better but it's still a mess in my books. He still has all sorts of wood chips/dirt/dust, which is still a fire hazard and a perfect environment for bugs/pests/etc.

Let's not forget this shed was a former chicken coop, which would come with all sorts of chicken shit...which along with the dirt will become a bacteria factory .

This room/shed needs to be emptied and completely swept clean then washed down with bleach and/or disinfectants.

The electrical situation has improved but still does not meet FCC standards...this room is still prone for a fire and/or plant disease
 
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ISK

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Well-shit am I doing anything right
fundamentally your grow-op has serious issues.... a poor electrical infrastructure that is highly susceptible to fire, combined with a disease infested chicken coop laced with mercury residue.

do you really want to end up in the news as another grow-op that burnt down?
 
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taGyo

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It's out of love 420.

Trust me. Would you rather everyone say "Great grow!" and not mean it?
 
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420noobie

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Thanks for the feedback always looking to learn. The electrical issue should not be a problem and I'll continue to add to the grow space as time passes
 

ISK

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Thanks for the feedback always looking to learn. The electrical issue should not be a problem and I'll continue to add to the grow space as time passes
I don't want to come across harsh but I'm trying to convey that your electrical situation is your # 1 problem and could very well become the end of your grow, and worst yet your life.

I only pointed out the most serious issues, but the list goes on....never run electrical cables on the ground, extremely poor practice, as just tripping over them cause lights to crash down...not to mention short circuiting due to water spillage....or rodents chewing the live cables

Have cables fixed to the walls or ceiling and have them come down to the fixtures, as having the cables coming from the bottom, passing along near the bulbs is just asking for a fire disaster.

Loading up several bulbs that are suspended by the electrical cord is in complete violation of the FCC and lacks common electrical safety

I would recommend a proper light fixture that is suspended with chains and get all your electrical cords off the ground.

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Enigmatic Ways

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Don't feel pressured, these guys are just trying to help you, but they are kind of ripping you a new one lol, but with that being said don't expect anything close to an ounce per plant or even an ounce altogether. You should always chalk up the first few grows as a learning experience.
 

420noobie

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I don't want to come across harsh but I'm trying to convey that your electrical situation is your # 1 problem and could very well become the end of your grow, and worst yet your life.

I only pointed out the most serious issues, but the list goes on....never run electrical cables on the ground, extremely poor practice, as just tripping over them cause lights to crash down...not to mention short circuiting due to water spillage....or rodents chewing the live cables

Have cables fixed to the walls or ceiling and have them come down to the fixtures, as having the cables coming from the bottom, passing along near the bulbs is just asking for a fire disaster.

Loading up several bulbs that are suspended by the electrical cord is in complete violation of the FCC and lacks common electrical safety

I would recommend a proper light fixture that is suspended with chains and get all your electrical cords off the ground.

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Did you make that fixture yourself? Have a suggestion for budget fixtures
 

ISK

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Did you make that fixture yourself? Have a suggestion for budget fixtures
yes, it was a bathroom light fixture from Home Depot....

I just drilled holes to mount the hooks for the chains, they also hold the face plate to the frame.

I used an old PC cord to connect to the pre-wiring of the fixture

go to any garage sale or flee market, as those type of fixture are low budget brand new, so second hand they are dirt cheap
 

SPLFreak808

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CFLs won't burn your plants. HIDs will.

Flip that black mat over so it's clean.

Looks 100x better. Thank you for taking advice.
Now what are the ingredients on the back of that flower booster? You have deficiencies, it may be because of PH or because of improper nutrient balances in your soil.
Just the slightest touch of a 23w bulb will for sure burn wherever it touched, just by experience lol. It is rather hard to burn by foliar spray with the stomata's open though.
 

420noobie

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Just the slightest touch of a 23w bulb will for sure burn wherever it touched, just by experience lol. It is rather hard to burn by foliar spray with the stomata's open though.
Yeah your right it doesn't take much contact to toast a leaf the really bad ones I usually just pluck off
 

swifthigh

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First things first with CFL's when hoping to achieve decent yield you always have to remember PTF proximity to foliage. i.e how far away your bulbs are. 1-2 inches is optimal but watch that growth! certain strains can grow into a bulb in a day and be scorched!
2nd thing i would go buy 3-4 cfl socket fixtures from a wholesale store and mount them on a 4 foot bar about 10 inches apart. 3rd i would invest in some of these babies3Pcs-Lot-E27-to-2x-E27-LED-Halogen-CFL-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Adapter-Converter-Socket-Splitter.jpg as you can build beautiful cfl-chandeliers as i call them and keep all that much-needed space all while doubling your lumen output
i'd also recommend to top or LST at some point and they definitely need a transplant. anyway the bar setup allows you to set your plants up like so IMG_00193.jpg AND gives them proper room to flourish.ba3cb8f562466f047c3c34799f435688.jpg
Hope this helps and remember to use at least 80-100W's per plant in flower! they like 3500k in flower and 6500k in veg Happy growing and GL!
 

420noobie

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First things first with CFL's when hoping to achieve decent yield you always have to remember PTF proximity to foliage. i.e how far away your bulbs are. 1-2 inches is optimal but watch that growth! certain strains can grow into a bulb in a day and be scorched!
2nd thing i would go buy 3-4 cfl socket fixtures from a wholesale store and mount them on a 4 foot bar about 10 inches apart. 3rd i would invest in some of these babiesView attachment 3458302 as you can build beautiful cfl-chandeliers as i call them and keep all that much-needed space all while doubling your lumen output
i'd also recommend to top or LST at some point and they definitely need a transplant. anyway the bar setup allows you to set your plants up like so View attachment 3458304 AND gives them proper room to flourish.View attachment 3458305
Hope this helps and remember to use at least 80-100W's per plant in flower! they like 3500k in flower and 6500k in veg Happy growing and GL!
Thanks for the advice! I'll be transplanting in a couple days going to try some organic compost and perlite for the bigger pots. On Tuesday I'll be taking 4 of them to a different outdoor location. That way I can actually grow these babies to a decent size for a good yeild with the lights and room provided
 
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