First Official cfl grow

allforit

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I just might make some hash butter HippySmoke! That's a great idea! I don't want to waste it, but don't really want to smoke it either lol. Hash butter is like making cannabutter right? It's the same thing? Just throw all my weed, stem and all, into a pot of butter with like water in it, and cook for a few hours, let it cool, and the butter should be separate from the water, and the thc is in the butter, and i just refridgerate it and use it in place of regular butter in cooking? I could make some good gluten free brownies or cookies! Would be great for my pain management.
 

HippySmoke

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Hash butter and cannabutter are indeed the same thing. All the patients I work with (except for diabetic patients) especially any cancer patients I work with I always reccomend several butter recipes and cannabutter period it can cause weight gain in the doses need to properly medicate but for many of patients a little weight gain is a good thing. If butter isn't an option (it masks the flavor) there are other cooking options one of my favorites being a series of salad dishes using extra virgin olive oil. And honestly with many medicinal uses it is more efficient to eat the cannabis rather than smoke it. Why? because of the body's natural time release system... the metabolism. The vaporized or smoked cannabis has a much quicker and imop gram for gram per amount of time "feeling" the medication stronger but the body's metabolic system will regulate the ingested THC in such a way as to with a proper cannamuffin or a regular english muffin with melted cannabutter (and maybe something else to mask the flavor as the butter itself still tastes a lot like nature in good medicinal doses) can last till around an hour after lunch, and if you once again medicate properly at lunch the digestion and metabolization should begin within half an hour and just as breakfast wears off lunch comes on :) the human body is an amazing thing.

What are the causes of your pain? I specialize in pain and chemo assistance therapy as far as cannabis is related and any research you may have or any I can provide would be great.
 

homer371

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i agree, canna butter is the way to go if you don't have a vape (but a vape is worth investing in!). allforit, your description is exactly right, the one step you didn't list was straining out (and throwing out) all the solid material going from the cooking pot to the tupperware. then after fridging overnight, the greenish butter separates from the water and you're done. i posted a recipe/instructions a while ago that work for me, here it is if you wanna check it out:

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/368799-150w-cfl-purple-d-sour-13.html#post4896691

and hippysmoke, good info from you as well. thanks dude.
 

allforit

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Ok, thanks for the info, HippySmoke and homer371! I'll check out your recipe, homer371!
I suffer from chronic pain in my lower back, from a thrown out lumber back when I was 24. It keeps coming back to haunt me, no matter how much I strengthen my core. I also get muscle cramps/pains a lot, mostly because of gluten I believe, but happens even when I am gluten free to an extent as well. I would like to try to make come of this cannabutter, but question is, how bad does it stink up the house? lol. I live in a trailer, and I can bet it will leach outside. So might have to do it on a weekend at 2 or 3 am lol.
Here she is today! Growing well. I think these are some awesome pics. I'm very happy with the pics of this grow so far.

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Can anyone tell me how to make "light" cannabutter? I can't spread it on any breads, I can't have gluten/wheat. I can however, make some gluten free brownies/cookies type thing. Gluten free bread is just too expensive to make for me right now. But the brownies/cookies are not. Can I make cannaoil instead of butter? I could fry some tofu in cannaoil lol. But seriously, want I am thinking of is light weight cannabutter. Or oil. I just don't want to take a bite of cookie and get totally jacked up, I am a lightweight. I take em one hit at a time, literally lol.
 

homer371

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hey man, quick replies to your questions... yes, it does stink up the house! it helps to cover the pot or do it in a crockpot, but it still stinks. you could try cooking something else like garlic at the same time or use airfresheners.

as for oil, i don't think it works in the same way, but i could be wrong. just in case, i'd go for butter. if you use 5 grams of your bud for one stick of butter, you'll get about 5-10 "doses" out of that, depending how light weight you really are. all you can do is try a certain amount (measure it), wait an hour and a half, see how it hits you and decide what your dose is.
 

HippySmoke

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Ok, thanks for the info, HippySmoke and homer371! I'll check out your recipe, homer371!
I suffer from chronic pain in my lower back, from a thrown out lumber back when I was 24. It keeps coming back to haunt me, no matter how much I strengthen my core. I also get muscle cramps/pains a lot, mostly because of gluten I believe, but happens even when I am gluten free to an extent as well. I would like to try to make come of this cannabutter, but question is, how bad does it stink up the house? lol. I live in a trailer, and I can bet it will leach outside.
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Can anyone tell me how to make "light" cannabutter? I can't spread it on any breads, I can't have gluten/wheat. I can however, make some gluten free brownies/cookies type thing. Gluten free bread is just too expensive to make for me right now. But the brownies/cookies are not. Can I make cannaoil instead of butter? I could fry some tofu in cannaoil lol. But seriously, want I am thinking of is light weight cannabutter. Or oil. I just don't want to take a bite of cookie and get totally jacked up, I am a lightweight. I take em one hit at a time, literally lol.
Are you in a continual state with your home physical therapy? I know brother it's a pain literally and in more ways than physical but tailoring a home physical therapy routine is integral especially with core damage. The thing is everything you every movement you make connects back to your core even finger movement! The movement of the finger moves the carpotunnel I believe it is then it vibrates the tendons between the bicep and the tricep and those vibrations in turn through the I can't remember the muscles name but the "wing" part under your shoulder that connect to the side of your back it connects there to some nervous system that communicates with your muscular tissue and the nervous system which is connected through the spine to the I believe it is cerebral cortex or the little nob part of your brain if you remember the shape of it from science class ya know the ones that open and all that... wow stoner I can't believe I just said all that to make a simple point core damage is connected to the rest of your body and physical therapy in some cases may never help with the current pain the whole thing I would be focused on in your physical therapy routine is to PREVENT further degradation keep your physical therapy up and if you are already great! and do your best to keep it just like growing reefer... stable. Find a balance and just keep it because you already know if you overdo yourself it could mean any number of issues including the dreaded "disc movement" which would likely require surgery. But I am glad to hear you work on your core strength.

Gluten is something I still need to familiarize myself with honestly, I have only worked with one patient with gluten issues and he only used cannabis for anxiety so he just needed a vape and the proper cannabis so edibles never came into factor. What about butter cookies?

1/2 a cup hashbutter (you will need to experiment with dosages for your butter for the proper THC ratio)
1 1/3rd cup organic flour
1/2 teaspoon salt (normal salt I tried sea salt once didn't go well although this step optional if the patient has sodium issues)
1/2 teaspoon baking soda

1/3rd or 1/2 cup brown sugar
1/4th or 1/3rd cup normal white sugar
1 egg (Any size but larger is better helps the mixing process. Although consider where your eggs come from the chickens gonna die but come on why ya gotta stick it in a cage it's whole life? give em at least space to turn around!)
(optional)1 12 oz package or about 2 cups of your favorite mixer peanut butter chips chocolate morsels marshmallow bits nuts of some kind whatever ya want personalize the flavor.
(optional) for presentation if the patient has no nut allergys I often take a almond or pecan half or walnut half or some other nut in some cases and stick it in the top of the cookie flat down looks nice and it helps the cookie maintain form if you don't add "candy" treats


Thats my basic recipe can it be adapted to be gluten free cheaply enough? And with your first batch of butter if you are a featherweight go for the less is more butter to reefer ratio, takes notes and adjust till it is perfect for ya.

Hope that helps.
 

allforit

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Hi Homer371 and HippYSmoke. I love you both, your spirits are awesome. I might be gone for a few days, my best friend just died this afternoon, and I just heard about it. Please send every positive thought you can my way. Please. He was my best buddy. For over 20 yrs. And we were closer than Brothers. He died of heart failure due to kidney disease. So now, I gotta go. I gotta move. I swear it, although it creates anxiety. I gotta go find my friends.
 

HippySmoke

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Wow dude yup time to handle business I am so sorry best wishes for you during a time like this. We'll be here when ya get back.
 

homer371

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I'm really sorry to hear that allforit. Wish you all the best buddy, and yeah we'll be here when you get back for sure. Peace brother.
 

allforit

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Thank you 2. I'm here. I almost moved. But had not the energy. I was too down. I got as far as trying to have a household sale, but couldn't get past it.
Can't make it to my buds' funeral, so going to go see my bud John. He and I always hung with Daryl. It was us 3. For the longest time. So he and I shall have a Wake for Daryl, in the Earth way. I think(hope) I can make it to his house, 10 hrs away, with my pos truck lol. If not, I will be prepped, can hitch hike or walk back. Will bring survival gear with me.
Here is my baby today.

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I am going to have a "Wake" with my buddy John this weekend, if my truck will drive 10 hrs tomorrow. It will be more of an Indian ceremony than a wake, but wake is the best word I can think of. Never had anyone close to me die before. And now it's my bestest buddy. Weird, this life. Psycho. But ok. I will deal with it.
See, my friend is not Dead. His body is, yes. His soul/spirit, no. If so, what's the point of living? So we have 70 yrs to live on this planet, then after all of those years trying to follow our conscience, we die. And that's it. What the fuck is the point of that???? There would be none.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34JarNjoIU
 

homer371

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she looks great allforit, hoping she'll show some "she signs" soon! (try saying that 10 times lol). hope all is well with you bro.
 

allforit

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I'm back. Wow. You guys, I tell ya. You don't know what I been through. Damn.
I am forcing her to flower, and I see 5 bud sites, because I am moving in 3 wks, and I want to play with this plant, and see what I can make it do, with 3 wks. 1 wk of 12/12, one week of 10/14, and one wk of 8/16. Just to see if I can force her to bud quickly. I can't take her with me. I have to murder her. :( :( Dammit.
I am moving to NM. Long story short, it's the place for me to follow my Path. My trip was perfect beyond belief.
I will keep this journal going, easy for everyone. I will be growing asap at my new cabin. (that's really what it is, a cabin made by my friend John.) I am going off the grid, except for internet. And my VA money, which I earned every bit as much as S.Security. The Army fucked me up, so they have to pay. Not my fault.
I'm sick of working an easy job, 9 hrs a day, with every other weekend a 3 day weekend, and many holidays, and snow days, etc, and working for the same Government that will put me in Jail if they catch me doing my do. With Mary Jane. That's not the main reason lol. Just an example. I don't want to work for 13 an hr, and let the government take 2 bucks of that. One buck goes to SS, which I probably will not see by the time I am 67, way things are going now. One buck to taxes, which I don't agree with. Taxes pay for wars, which I don't agree with. (When I joined the army, I was a mechanic. I wanted to shoot guns, but I could not allow myself to kill another human being on the whim of the Commander in Chief. My conscience came first)
So now, I go to work, against my Soul, my Conscience, and do the do. Not any more. No more paying for wars. I don't buy mexican brown bud anymore because I refuse to pay for them to kill people. Genocide it is. Won't support that. I haven't bought any mexican bud for like, months. I refuse, on principal. I have to follow what is Right. Otherwise, I am no better than the Assholes. Right? lol. Just because my Heart and Soul are ripped out by the passing of my Best Friend, doesn't mean I turn into a jerk, and stop caring. It means, Care More. Daryl is happier now.
Weeps the soul of the left behind,
Selfish in it's pain,
For the Departed is now communing with wolves,
...Swimming the Ocean with the sharks,
A smile so large and a light so bright, I can feel it from here.


A poem I felt the need to write for Daryl.
 
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allforit

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What happened to my first post????? the pics of Left Behind due to Laws? Sheez. Here she is, after 36 hrs of darkness, 5 bud sites.

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allforit

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Ah, shit.. Sorry, Homer371!! I didn't see your post, or my first one lol. Tequila. lol. Sad But True(cue metallica) gotta stop this drinking for sure!! Listening to some House of Pain right now. Just got done with some Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. And some N. Young lol. Thank You for the positive Energy!! I am betting I can make her grow some short buds in 3 wks. Force it, through the light cycle. Will see.
Yes, all is well. Matter of fact, All is Perfect. I need to eat dinner now. I should go. Beating anxiety to boot, even with the passing of my bestest friend. Now, time to move, and hang with my other bestest friend. It was always me, Daryl, and John. always. So now that D is gone, and J needs my help, I can't say no, or let J down. I already let D down. Won't do it to J. Over my dead cold rigid body. Not going to happen. One best friend is enough. Fuck Money. fuck the government and state, fuck greed, fuck it all. I hate it. Have since I was 14. Just put up with it. Well, no fucking more. Not going to support this pile of steaming hot shit.
Why? I'll tell ya.
1. the Fed Gov. says cannabis is sched. 1. Yet they sell it, as Marinol, for $1000 a pill. And it don't work even.
2. Half the schools in Detroit are closing down, due to lack of funds. yet we can spend 2 Billion a day fighting Afghan.
3. Big business taking over the middle class small businesses. Here in Kansas, Wal-Mart and big business are trying to buy out all the liquor stores in the State. SB 54. The dude and his wife who have spent their life savings to start a mom and pop liquor store, and work there, 14 hrs a day, 6 days a wk, will be out of business. Why? They can't compete with Wal-mart, who will get the stuff cheaper, and sell it cheaper, than the small liquor stores.
4. Follow my Path. Can't do that while working here in Kansas. Pics of where I am going, and guess what? Ever sit in a hot springs with 5 super hot, 20 on a scale of 1 to 10 women? Around 20 to 26, and they all laugh at your jokes, and read your palm and enjoy your company? Not to mention, the Rio Grande Flowing less than 2 ft. from the h. springs. Peaceful, and beautiful in many ways. And the culture there? I'm going to finally be able to do Sweat Lodges, and such. Make my Peace with the Pueblo/Lakota Indians. Learn from them.
Anyway, I should go for now. Night. :)
 
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