First organic mix.

Hello organics forum,

I'm sorry, but this is a 'is my mix good thread'.

I've looked and searched through the forums and have found mixes that look awesome but I just don't have access to the materials were I'm at. Here's the materials I have access to http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/gardening/fertilisers/organic-based

Here's my mix

Rooster booster (pelleted chicken shit):
N - 3, P - 2, K - 1
Blood and bone: N - 8, P - 5, K - 1
Mushroom compost
Dolomite lime.

Any help would be great.

Thank you.

Also should I chuck all of it in the ground and let it sit before I plant outside?
This mix is for next seasons outdoors. Planting September harvesting March (Australian).
I'm hoping to just need to water them and let em do their thing.

bict said:

Hello organics forum,

I'm sorry, but this is a 'is my mix good thread'.

I've looked and searched through the forums and have found mixes that look awesome but I just don't have access to the materials were I'm at. Here's the materials I have access to http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/gardening/fertilisers/organic-based

Here's my mix

Rooster booster (pelleted chicken shit):
N - 3, P - 2, K - 1
Blood and bone: N - 8, P - 5, K - 1
Mushroom compost
Dolomite lime.

Any help would be great.

Thank you.

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You Need some Potassium/K in there. Is that your mix you're adding to the ground soil? I would use an old garden patch or a freshly tilled lawn patch, and add accordingly how the directions advise. And what kind of soil do you have? If it's Sandy you don't need lime, you need sulfur. Honestly if your growing Outdoors AND putting it straight in the ground, which in my opinion is best, then honestly I'd just get a Bunch of Manure and lay it out on your patch and if it's old clay dirt soil add some Ashes to it as well. Like a Big layer of manure and a small layer of ashes. Oh and add all that After you broke up the ground. Then just add and let it sit until it's time to plant in spring. That's the Simplest and Cheapest way. Somebody will give you both manure and ashes For free if you ask.

cannakis said:

You Need some Potassium/K in there. Is that your mix you're adding to the ground soil? I would use an old garden patch or a freshly tilled lawn patch, and add accordingly how the directions advise. And what kind of soil do you have? If it's Sandy you don't need lime, you need sulfur. Honestly if your growing Outdoors AND putting it straight in the ground, which in my opinion is best, then honestly I'd just get a Bunch of Manure and lay it out on your patch and if it's old clay dirt soil add some Ashes to it as well. Like a Big layer of manure and a small layer of ashes. Oh and add all that After you broke up the ground. Then just add and let it sit until it's time to plant in spring. That's the Simplest and Cheapest way. Somebody will give you both manure and ashes For free if you ask.

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Thank you for the great advice. I am putting then straight in the ground. I'm not sure what the soil is, doesn't seem to be much clay, maybe a little sandy. I've got one of my plants in the ground this season, its doing well and I added lime to the soil.
How much wood ash per metre² would I need?

Like, a tablespoon to three. Woodash is rapidly dissolved in water. So, youll likely have to add more potassium in a month or so. It's more efficient to use some in a mineral mix but also have something that is slow release. Green sand, composted fruits...... that kinda stuff. If your plants look wonky in a week check out the plant problems threads. (Which you're probably thinking "no shit", sry) if you can't come up with a slow.release solution, you can top dress about a tablespoon or less around the spread of a plant. But mix in a bit of N and P (@ a lower ratio than your K) with that kind of thing so the plant doesnt get weird. Good luck. Dont be too suprised if this takes practice.

I'm thinking ill go with my original mix but take the lime out and add fruit peels and wood ashe for the K.

Sound good?

Why take the lime out? But yea, sounds somewhat rounded. I've never used peels directly without composting or fermenting...... but give it a shot. Maybe mince them up first? Idk

iHearAll said:

Why take the lime out? But yea, sounds somewhat rounded. I've never used peels directly without composting or fermenting...... but give it a shot. Maybe mince them up first? Idk

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I'd put the peels in the ground and leave them from Autumn to winter. My friend does the same with his.

I thought adding both would raise the ph too much?.

I found info about wood ashes. It says to put a shovel of wood ashes per square metre.

bict said:

I'd put the peels in the ground and leave them from Autumn to winter. My friend does the same with his.

I thought adding both would raise the ph too much?.

I found info about wood ashes. It says to put a shovel of wood ashes per square metre.

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Boom there you go brother. You're on the right track. You know you could also get local fish scraps and bury them throughout your patch.

Can you take a picture of your soil? Does it look like black delicious dirt? Red dirt? Mix of both with sand? Was this area recently a forest?

You're on the right track. If you already have the line you could add a little, it's used as a pH buffer I believe too, but it Will Also base your soil.

But yeah as Long as you lay all this out on your tilled land in the Fall, you'll be good. What's your winter and summer highs? Do you get snow or no?

bict said:

I'd put the peels in the ground and leave them from Autumn to winter. My friend does the same with his.

I thought adding both would raise the ph too much?.

I found info about wood ashes. It says to put a shovel of wood ashes per square metre.

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Weird.. iv read different. Buuuuuut i may have been reading about top dressing.

I did a thing over this past winter with fermented banana peels and bones in a clay pot. Burried it over the winter and dug it up. It was pretty much a pot of vermicastings at this point. That was two weeks ago. I planted some autos and used it but burned the little.autos with too much phosphorus.

And frozen weather is.killing my photos. I really have my game face on... now that i think about it, you should question my advice or that i shouldn't give it hahahah

cannakis said:

Boom there you go brother. You're on the right track. You know you could also get local fish scraps and bury them throughout your patch.

Can you take a picture of your soil? Does it look like black delicious dirt? Red dirt? Mix of both with sand? Was this area recently a forest?

You're on the right track. If you already have the line you could add a little, it's used as a pH buffer I believe too, but it Will Also base your soil.

But yeah as Long as you lay all this out on your tilled land in the Fall, you'll be good. What's your winter and summer highs? Do you get snow or no?

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I'm unable to get a photo as I'm away from home. I have two patches in my forest. Both have big openings. The bottom patch has black/grey dusty soil, while the top one has quite dark black soil. I'll get you photos when I'm home.

We don't get snow. Winter max temp is 14 c, low is 3-4c. Summer low 14c high 28c.

I've read that most Australian soils are naturally acidic minus areas around Perth and Adelaide. Not in either of those places.

bict said:

I'm thinking ill go with my original mix but take the lime out and add fruit peels and wood ashe for the K.

Sound good?

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Not as much. Leave the lime in and snag that Sea Mun Gus (seaweed) for the K. Wood ash is a good way to get into trouble real quick unless you are experienced with it.

In time, if you can source kelp meal it's well worth it, but the seaweed stuff will do ya.

Wet

Wetdog said:

Not as much. Leave the lime in and snag that Sea Mun Gus (seaweed) for the K. Wood ash is a good way to get into trouble real quick unless you are experienced with it.

In time, if you can source kelp meal it's well worth it, but the seaweed stuff will do ya.

Wet

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Would collecting it from the beach be sufficient?

bict said:

Would collecting it from the beach be sufficient?

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not unless you want to compost an extremely smelly mass of it.
and it takes a LONG time to breakdown.
in my pile the bullkelp was the last thing to breakdown, about 4 months.
in my experience potassium, although it's considered a macro, cannabis doesn't seem to need a large amount of it.
I don't add anything to specifically increase the K, just a good balanced meal based mix and it's covered already.
neem has it, so does comfrey and alfalfa meal.
I imagine compost to naturally have some in it as well, depending on your base ingredients
greensand is awesome but you get NOTHING other than as an aeration for at least a good 12 months, maybe longer.
Get some comfrey plants, those you can use for damn near a perfect nutrient for cannabis.
comfrey, neem meal, and kelp meal are must-haves in my book.

bict said:

I'm unable to get a photo as I'm away from home. I have two patches in my forest. Both have big openings. The bottom patch has black/grey dusty soil, while the top one has quite dark black soil. I'll get you photos when I'm home.

We don't get snow. Winter max temp is 14 c, low is 3-4c. Summer low 14c high 28c.

I've read that most Australian soils are naturally acidic minus areas around Perth and Adelaide. Not in either of those places.

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Yeah you definitely should use the lime. And like Wetdog said the Seaweed is a Great idea!

cannakis said:

Yeah you definitely should use the lime. And like Wetdog said the Seaweed is a Great idea!

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Will do. Just need to find where to get some.

It was in the link you provided. Also had fish meal IIRC.

LOL, I actually looked at what was available to you.

Wet

Wetdog said:

It was in the link you provided. Also had fish meal IIRC.

LOL, I actually looked at what was available to you.

Wet

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Wetdog is the shit! See I didn't even realize there was a link, that's how stupid I Am.

A crude resource for calcium is eggshells. But a 50lb sack of lime at my local farm supply is less than 5$. Internet spending gets costly with shipping just cuz half these ammendments youd want a 25-50 lb sack. If you wanted to actually skip the lime you could broil the eggshells or whatever shells and steep them in vinegar for a week. Filter out the shells. Amd use the liquid a a 1:100 ratio (1tsp of the extract : 1liter of water) for adults and half that or less for young vegging plants. Once a month-ish. I think the recipe is a kilo of burnt shell per liter. But i usually fill the vinegar to just cover the shells.