First outdoor grow. Big plants!

Smasher420

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Thanks! I'm pumped to head back in and check. Give them one more good dose of fertilizer I got 2 dozen egg shells for the plants and the snails. IL probably trim a bit on the bottom clear all the nonsense. Like I said I put them in may 1st and went back a week ago and had some beauty's.
 

Smasher420

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Can't wait till I see those heads develope! I put a lot of muscle into this spot. I should mention it's a high spot near water almost like a natural ridge above the water if you will. So I cleared out almost everything blocking light. And I also like this spot because they blend so well. The soil is so soft and airy and nice and black in color. But there's 4 plants there and each one has a nice health stalk so I'm pumped for flower. Hopefully I get some nice color off of um.
 

pope creek

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Regarding pests, I realize that I sound like a know-it-all and I really don't mean to, I totally accept there are times when your crop is in peril and the gloves come off. This is people's lively hood in many cases and the stakes are too high.
Also, with gorilla, when you seldom get the chance to watch things properly, maybe there's a case for doing something preventative, but I'm not sure what would really work other than maintaining a healthy plant, choosing a sensible site, maybe some pruning. D.E. around your trunk can keep a lot of the crawling things away (though your worms won't like it) and a box of ladybugs. What sprays last long enough except hardcore toxins which seem totally against my concept of gardening? Those are saved for last resort, personally I'd rather lose a plant than poison my beneficials and soil.
Calico makes a lot of good points about growing weed in nature.
Certainly generations in grow rooms has bred some natural strength out of strains but selecting for resin ( which is one of the plants
principle forms of protection) should only be a help.
The bigger issues are plant structure (like how Diesels can't support themselves) and climate tolerance.
If I was gorilla growing I would want acclimatized seed.
Weed is such a sturdy and adaptable plant. It will grow wild in all kinds of conditions. If a plant makes it past seedling the chances are it will adapt.
Gardening is not a totally natural process whatever method you use.
If you plant and water crops you are setting up a mini ecosystem. If you plant in arid areas you are creating an oasis and a hotspot. At first things may get a little alarming especially if you've used a lot of organics (flies love shit). Soon however, the predators show up and a new balance is found. I found plenty of companion planting is important if there is no green in the area. Avoid monoculture syndrome.
What I am saying is based on what I read and personal experience. Others have done more of both and I am always looking to learn. So I dig the chat.
And don't tell me about grasshoppers. I once lost 30 olive saplings in 24 hours. They ate them to the ground despite sprays and even netting. Fucking nightmare.
When there is a plague there's nothing you can do.

Good luck.
 

calicocalyx

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I'm picking up what your laying down too man. Our whole system of living is skewed towards short term selfish goals even to the detriment of the larger group or other individuals. So we should be implementing methods and technique that don't facillitate waste or undue harm. Creating and using our local environment to the utmost benefit with regards to sustainability and longevity. It's possible, might take some time. It's happening already even if we're unaware of our actions and consequences. I'm not exactly disagreeing with you about the pests either, but for me it's quicker to spray whatever and walk away. Our very presence affects our surroundings. Even the eyes touch. Freaking grasshoppers, never did figure out how to deal with em.
 

Smasher420

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I appreciate the feed back guys. Unfortunately I gotta wait till next week to check um again it rained again today. They needed a little more anyway it's been so humid here. Well anyways the anticipation is growing I'm gunna burst before they flower I can't wait to see them start to flower. IL probably just sit and stair at them for 10 minutes just admiring the size of these things. I've seen some big plants before don't get me wrong this is my first grow but I've trimmed bud for a bunch of buddies about 4 years now and these plants take the cake so far. What would be your guys choice fertilizer for flower? I like the dried bagged suffer for my type of grow. I'm way back in the woods so I feel I get more bang for my buck when I can put a whole bag in my backpack and be good for the year. Thanks!
 

pope creek

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When in flower your plants are going to hungry for phosphorus and potassium and less for nitrogen.
The manure you used will probably provide all you need ( along with what exists naturally in the soil), however you might want to supplement just to be sure.
Good organic sources for phosphorus (P) are guano, crab shell, rock phosphate, banana peel, coca cola has high quantities.
Potassium (K) is found in kelp, green sand
 

pope creek

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Alfalfa is a very complete fertilizer.

I use a tea of alfalfa , banana peel chamomile, compost and kelp meal.
I use it as s drench and a folier feed.
That along with fish emulsion and amendments I'd pretty much all I use.
 
Fantastic looking plants Smasher! Green Karma to the finish line brother.

Might want to consider Spinosad before your buds get too full, particularly for caterpillars (corn worms, bud worms, etc..)
 

Smasher420

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All the hard work payed off. I put over 30 hours in that spot between bringing in 50 pound bag of cow poo and clearing all the trees and bushes at least they like it! How do you guys harvest? A staggered harvest I'm thinking this year. I can't believe how well this bag seed is doing. I hope it's good quality smoke!
 
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