First time doing drip

Greengrouch

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Does it look like I got the right stuff? Will be timed via smart plug. Also wondering if I need to aerate my res(it’s just a 5 gallon bucket for now) plants are in fabric pots. I know I need a different adapter 5/8 not 3/4 for the pump but that’s to easy.IMG_9809.pngIMG_9810.png
 

Blue brother

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Depending on the frequency of irrigation and whether or not you will be recirculating you may not need to aerate the res.

If you are irrigating more than 4 times a day and recirculating then I personally don’t see the need for extra aeration as the dissolved oxygen will be replenished as the run off pours back into the res
 

Nambud76

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Depending on the frequency of irrigation and whether or not you will be recirculating you may not need to aerate the res.

If you are irrigating more than 4 times a day and recirculating then I personally don’t see the need for extra aeration as the dissolved oxygen will be replenished as the run off pours back into the res
I guess I would say from a risk perspective, why not aerate? It costs between $20-$30 to aerate a single reservoir, and the benefits are critical to plant health. Arguably, one of the cheapest value-add additions to a hydro setup besides maybe a cheap fan.
 

Blue brother

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I guess I would say from a risk perspective, why not aerate? It costs between $20-$30 to aerate a single reservoir, and the benefits are critical to plant health. Arguably, one of the cheapest value-add additions to a hydro setup besides maybe a cheap fan.
Air stones raise ph and solution temperature, and don’t really make a huge difference in terms of dissolved oxygen vs other methods, if I was gonna aerate I’d use a wave maker pump, and still only if I wasn’t moving much water per day, I’m talking like 1 irrigation per day then yeah I’d use a wave maker, anything over 4 with a decent run off to add back to the res is plenty oxygenation. Air bubbles aren’t even the roots source of oxygen, dissolved oxygen is what u want
 

pahpah-cee

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I would just get the pro sets at a local box store. I would just use .5 or 1 gph drippers and you may need a stronger pump.

or you can just use open ended tubing without Drippers. This will be your best option if you want to run any fertilizer in the lines. With an open ended tube you can get away with a low pressure pump.
 

weedstoner420

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Pardon my ignorance, what does aerating the res do?

Having something in there to keep it mixed up might be good, but the oxygen is in your medium. Does it matter if the nutrient solution is kept oxygenated before it drips into the medium...?
 

Greengrouch

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In peat and 3 gallon grow bags I’m not really gonna need more than one or 2 irrigations/night(well day for my plants). Now I’m debating on returning the pump for something bigger since the thread 3/4in male to 1/2in female adapter I need is $18 for some reason like bruh it’s a small piece of plastic
 

Nambud76

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Air stones raise ph and solution temperature, and don’t really make a huge difference in terms of dissolved oxygen vs other methods, if I was gonna aerate I’d use a wave maker pump, and still only if I wasn’t moving much water per day, I’m talking like 1 irrigation per day then yeah I’d use a wave maker, anything over 4 with a decent run off to add back to the res is plenty oxygenation. Air bubbles aren’t even the roots source of oxygen, dissolved oxygen is what u want
Air stones and air pumps do produce dissolved oxygen as a function of agitating the water surface, and they do so with only 1 to 3 watts of power consumption where as a wave maker is 5-10 watts and is running mechanics in the reservoir producing more heat than the air stone by a large margin. I pH daily, and I have not seen an issue. I am not going to discount your thoughts, but the impact is not what you are making it out to be.
 

Nambud76

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Pardon my ignorance, what does aerating the res do?

Having something in there to keep it mixed up might be good, but the oxygen is in your medium. Does it matter if the nutrient solution is kept oxygenated before it drips into the medium...?
It increasing dissolved oxygen in the solution, and plants uptake dissolved oxygen through the root zone.

Now, how you achieve said aeration I suppose can be debated. The other guy is saying aeration stones has negative impacts, but I have not experienced any abnormal increases in pH or solution/rez temperature.
 

Blue brother

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Air stones and air pumps do produce dissolved oxygen as a function of agitating the water surface, and they do so with only 1 to 3 watts of power consumption where as a wave maker is 5-10 watts and is running mechanics in the reservoir producing more heat than the air stone by a large margin. I pH daily, and I have not seen an issue. I am not going to discount your thoughts, but the impact is not what you are making it out to be.
I agree with what ur saying but I’m not sure if you’ve considered the air temperature that’s usually being blown through the water, and that is what generally heats the water to a higher temp than I’ve ever noticed and I’ve done it both ways. And that extra heat in the solution actually reduces the amount of dissolved oxygen said solution can hold. This is why dwc usually employs a chiller

id much rather just irrigate a inert media at least 4 times a day with sufficient run off to cause aeration of the solution, and with a properly sized reservoir you can leave ph adjustment to once a week.

Obviously it all works in its own way and there’s always trade offs with any technique, I just don’t believe using a traditional air stone and pump to be best practise, especially when the ops going from watering by hand and probs not recirculating, so switching to recirculating brings with it its own set of challenges, never mind having to adjust ph every day and have a high res temp.
 

weedstoner420

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It increasing dissolved oxygen in the solution, and plants uptake dissolved oxygen through the root zone.
That makes sense for DWC or something where the roots are constantly submerged in water. But OP is growing in peat, so there's oxygen in the medium itself already, in the gaps between the peat particles...
 
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