For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

dbkick said:

You'd have to define "better" , the shitty little finger things work pretty damn well.

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greentrees uses REAL floats on vertical poles i guess instead of those finger switches. you can adjust fill height as well. they have better cord management. the control bucket also has more holes so you can have less buckets on each line for faster drain and fill. they use 3/4" tubing. the buckets are already raised up to help fully drain buckets. you dont need a check valve because the hose hub has a bypass to prevent syphoning. everything is much much more thought out. CAP copied greentrees in the beginning anyway. lol

i just got a great idea too for a drain to waste setup in COCO....

instead of the drain pump going to the res u just plumb it into a drain lol. i think it would work. just setup 2 55 gallon drums linked together via 3/4" tubing so you have 110 gal res basically should last a week. only fill once a day should work, be a bit expensive on nutes but that would be awesome setup i think with aptus. any thoughts.

im interested in seeing the coco drain to waste set up. i have moms in coco and its a pain in the ass to hand water them daily. be nice to adapt this system to that style of hydro. plus maybe i can upgrade to the greentrees and use the CAP to manage my moms.

how is the aptus line up working out? its a bit weird that they don't make any base nutes, just additives. i guess you can mix up your own NPK that way?.?...

i got a bottle of their regulator and startbooster. the startbooster smells like shit, i have to keep it in box out in the garage. for my small grow i may never run out since its super concentrated lol

Refusedpanda said:

im interested in seeing the coco drain to waste set up. i have moms in coco and its a pain in the ass to hand water them daily. be nice to adapt this system to that style of hydro. plus maybe i can upgrade to the greentrees and use the CAP to manage my moms.

how is the aptus line up working out? its a bit weird that they don't make any base nutes, just additives. i guess you can mix up your own NPK that way?.?...

i got a bottle of their regulator and startbooster. the startbooster smells like shit, i have to keep it in box out in the garage. for my small grow i may never run out since its super concentrated lol

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ya the start booster isnt nearly as bad as the p boost smells like straight liquid shit lol which it prolly is haha. anyway ya its working great if u look in my 400w CMH journal you can't tell the difference between aptus and HG. i asked the owner why they dont do a base, and he said why make something that everyone already does that does essentially the same thing. he said use a base nute that you are comfortable with and use aptus as the additive. works killer for me with HG base nutes, and works out to be cheaper. i might try the drain to waste on this next grow side by side one recirc one drain to waste see how it goes. here are some pics of my other grow from the "hell room" as i have come to call it due to the obnoxious heat and multiple problems these poor plants have been wrought with lol somehow some are just troopers and look really unharmed others well they didn't fair so well.

end of week 6 start of week 7 and shooting powder

Sup everybody im back from my trip anyhing i can help with?

hellraizer30 said:

Sup everybody im back from my trip anyhing i can help with?

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yeah.. you got pics of your setup? I veg in ebb and flow tables and then pop them into the ebb and grow to flower... I think I should veg in the ebb and gro to get bigger plants.... what do you think?

tommyo3000 said:

yeah.. you got pics of your setup? I veg in ebb and flow tables and then pop them into the ebb and grow to flower... I think I should veg in the ebb and gro to get bigger plants.... what do you think?

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in the ebb&grow i left to long in veg they will get way to big! I veg in a flood tables in 4x4 cube and at 18in I put them into the ebb and they end
up huge check out my journal my setup in there

Got my DIY ebb flow up and going now. Only problem is I cant get the drain pump to stay off with out tilting the control bucket. I mean it works but wtf. I only bought the one part and it is rather stupid (CAP monster controller). Next time I am build my own controller.
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Phillip J Fry said:

Got my DIY ebb flow up and going now. Only problem is I cant get the drain pump to stay off with out tilting the control bucket. I mean it works but wtf. I only bought the one part and it is rather stupid (CAP monster controller). Next time I am build my own controller.
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this is a common issue and can be solved x2 ways! 1st is to get a check valve 2nd is to get the control box right next to the res like touching
the res, this is to lessen the distence of hose in doing so the amount of water that can drain back to the control box after the pump shuts off.
this drain back trips the pump and its a never ending cycle. hey fry if this dont help hit me up in PM

Fry what monster controller do you have? two floats or three? The newer versions that are supposed to correct the drain pump running on have two floats, the older version that CAP says is the only ones that require check valves. Funny I had the same problem bought and installed the check valve and I guess it fixed it, I pay no attention to the thing anymore since my grow went bad.

Ok sounds like I need the check valve since my controller only has two float switches. Plus my res is outside the room and control bucket is inside. Anyone point me in the direction of a good 3/4 inch check value to use?

Much love
Fry

Picked one of these up on ebay works great you may want to check it out
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270817130504?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

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nice JDM looks done enough for me good job!!

Been reading this thread for a while and glad I found this thread when I did Reading this thread got me to buy the EBB 12 system and help me to figure out the simple maintenance on the system. Did my first grow w some bag seed that I had for a while The crop came out alright I just think I should have left it a little longer I am now currently growing Chocolope now and am in day 11 in flower. Started a grow journal and would appreciate some feedback on what you guys think of how they are doin.

looking good jdm what type of coco did you use?

hammer21 said:

looking good jdm what type of coco did you use?

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the botanicare stuff i am gonna try running drain to waste this time. i think that would work out better. i had some strange issues late in flower. i think drain to waste is a much better way to run it we will see.

Thanks JDM will be trying the coco next time such a pain cleaning hydroton and to expensive to throw away

Hows it going guys, new ebb and grow user, just got things setup, 24 site in a 8x4 room, just curious should I be stressing about the third float valve as a safety measure? Also how long should I veg with a semi crowded area with this system?

i would veg until it gets crowded then flip. you dont want your plants fighting for light