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simpsonsampson420

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Ok i got a question that i hope some one can answer. I am growing my bud outside and need to bring the bud inside to dry but i got a room mate that i want to keep it hiddin from, for now lol So i was going to make a box with string in it to hang the bud but was wondering if there are some kind of carbon bag like filters that i can throw in the box with the bud to eliminate the smell, or some of that gel stuff what would be better? i would love any help or a push in the right direction :D

there are a few products that would work great for you.. but first i think its worth mentioning a few things before you start you may want to keep in mind...

first you are going to want to make sure you have some more of ventilation in the box.. as the buds dry, if the air around them isnt vented, the humidity will rise... to much humidity will not only slow your drying down... but can increase chances or bud rot and/or mold and mildew... so you'll want to have some sort of ventilation within the box...

besides ventilation you will want some circulation also.. so keeping a small fan moving air across the buds is a good idea also...

and lastly you'll want your box big enough to leave breathing room between the hanging buds...


now here are a few links to a couple products that will easily solve your smell issue..

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?sku=OBLP606&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=OPG611&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=OCFB700&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/products.aspx?t=prod&cat=ENVOD&AC=1

there should be an answer within those links...

just a note.. if you plan on using ozone at all make sure you dont run it 24/0.. ozone can be very dangerous, but is very affective.. if used on a timer it can be the most effective air cleansing method... the 23W ozone bulb can probably be ran in a standard room all the time without any problems tho... just make sure if you feel "different" or the plants start acting strange you cut back the use of the bulb and get it on a timer...
 

mowux

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there are a few products that would work great for you.. but first i think its worth mentioning a few things before you start you may want to keep in mind...

first you are going to want to make sure you have some more of ventilation in the box.. as the buds dry, if the air around them isnt vented, the humidity will rise... to much humidity will not only slow your drying down... but can increase chances or bud rot and/or mold and mildew... so you'll want to have some sort of ventilation within the box...

besides ventilation you will want some circulation also.. so keeping a small fan moving air across the buds is a good idea also...

and lastly you'll want your box big enough to leave breathing room between the hanging buds...


now here are a few links to a couple products that will easily solve your smell issue..

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?sku=OBLP606&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=OPG611&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.aspx?t=prod&sku=OCFB700&AC=1

http://www.wormsway.com/products.aspx?t=prod&cat=ENVOD&AC=1

there should be an answer within those links...

just a note.. if you plan on using ozone at all make sure you dont run it 24/0.. ozone can be very dangerous, but is very affective.. if used on a timer it can be the most effective air cleansing method... the 23W ozone bulb can probably be ran in a standard room all the time without any problems tho... just make sure if you feel "different" or the plants start acting strange you cut back the use of the bulb and get it on a timer...

Thank you for the tips, yes i know i am going to need some air so what i think i am going to do it put a intake fan on one side of the box making it out of a computer fan, then i probely make this https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/101248-best-diy-ez-walmart-carbon.html
I will have to find some way of hiding it though cause if i saw a box with that sticking out i would thing that to be weird lol.
How does that gel work? do i just spread it all around like the top or something or are there just certain area that it should be put it?
 

simpsonsampson420

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Thank you for the tips, yes i know i am going to need some air so what i think i am going to do it put a intake fan on one side of the box making it out of a computer fan, then i probely make this https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/101248-best-diy-ez-walmart-carbon.html
I will have to find some way of hiding it though cause if i saw a box with that sticking out i would thing that to be weird lol.
How does that gel work? do i just spread it all around like the top or something or are there just certain area that it should be put it?

i would personally recommend putting a hole on one side with a screen over it to keep out bugs or whatever, and place the computer fan towards the top and use it as an exhaust.. the fan with bring new air in passively... the problem is that if you bring more air into your grow room than you are exhausting it can cause a possitive pressure in the grow room.. this means 2 things..

1) when air pressure increases, so does heat.. it a small grow it doesnt have quite the impact... but in a large grow it can cause temps to rise a lot.. the same principal will hold true for you, although it may only be a couple degrees.. it is better to pull the warm air out than to try to push the cool air in... pulling the warm air out, will again, cause a negative pressure in the grow room and bring the cool air in passively...

2) also if you have a possitive pressure in the grow room it can push air out of any cracks there are in the room.... what this means is any smells you are trying to contain and actually get pushed through cracks before it has a chance to go through the filter to get cleaned...

the gel actually is very easy.. you open the top of the container and sit somewhere... i would recommend close to the door of your room... it basically just absorbs the smell from the air.. im sure you could put small shot glasses full of it or something like that all around to help assist in the air cleaning.. but really its just as easy as opening the top of the container....

as far as hiding your little project i have 2 things to say..

first i am one of those people who will tell you to tell your roommate before hand... i would tell anyone who is getting ready to grow inside to make sure those who live there are ok with it... just to avoid issues later.. i would give you way more shit if you were a kid trying to grow at home without the parents knowing or something.. just wanted to throw out there i think that you should talk to your roommate first...

second, your best bet to hide it is in a closet.. if not, throw a dark blanket or something over it and use it as a night stand or something by your bed... you can choose where the filter, if you use a filter, will go... so you can rig it to fit wherever you want... just a couple ideas for you..
 
Thank you so so much, i just read this post with a nice Armageddon reefer and a cup of tea, and its answered a lot of questions, ive just done a 4 plant grow for the 1st time in 10 years, and am into my 2nd now, Ive kept a mother plant back and taken a lot of cuttings, wish i'd waited to read this first, i'm a bit worried though as my cuttings were only 2inches long, ive just pulled a sickly one out and found a root! the others look ok for now lol. again..thanks... going back into the shed.. have made a propogator from and old PC case, with a usb mugwarmer under a piece of aluminium to headt my roots. Some people seem reluctant to share their info, this post is priceless !! CH72
 

simpsonsampson420

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Thank you so so much, i just read this post with a nice Armageddon reefer and a cup of tea, and its answered a lot of questions, ive just done a 4 plant grow for the 1st time in 10 years, and am into my 2nd now, Ive kept a mother plant back and taken a lot of cuttings, wish i'd waited to read this first, i'm a bit worried though as my cuttings were only 2inches long, ive just pulled a sickly one out and found a root! the others look ok for now lol. again..thanks... going back into the shed.. have made a propogator from and old PC case, with a usb mugwarmer under a piece of aluminium to headt my roots. Some people seem reluctant to share their info, this post is priceless !! CH72

im glad to have helped in anyway possible...

you may have some problems with rooting your cuttings... you can root about any size cutting, dont get me wrong.. but the 8" to 10" range seems to go the fastest... i think its got to do with the amount of hormones that the cutting can store and utilize.. to small and it has a hard time using them and too large and it takes to much to switch over and get going... if that makes any sense.. (had a bowls of m39 in the bong for breakfast myself).. you should get roots on your cuttings, but it may take a little longer...

your diy prop. sounds nice.. im not to handy with the diy stuff... all that matters is it works and you get the results you want...

any questions you have feel free to post.. i do plan on making a new post here soon.. just gotta find time to do it... definatly to fried to try to right now bongsmilie
 

mowux

Member
i would personally recommend putting a hole on one side with a screen over it to keep out bugs or whatever, and place the computer fan towards the top and use it as an exhaust.. the fan with bring new air in passively... the problem is that if you bring more air into your grow room than you are exhausting it can cause a possitive pressure in the grow room.. this means 2 things..

1) when air pressure increases, so does heat.. it a small grow it doesnt have quite the impact... but in a large grow it can cause temps to rise a lot.. the same principal will hold true for you, although it may only be a couple degrees.. it is better to pull the warm air out than to try to push the cool air in... pulling the warm air out, will again, cause a negative pressure in the grow room and bring the cool air in passively...

2) also if you have a possitive pressure in the grow room it can push air out of any cracks there are in the room.... what this means is any smells you are trying to contain and actually get pushed through cracks before it has a chance to go through the filter to get cleaned...

the gel actually is very easy.. you open the top of the container and sit somewhere... i would recommend close to the door of your room... it basically just absorbs the smell from the air.. im sure you could put small shot glasses full of it or something like that all around to help assist in the air cleaning.. but really its just as easy as opening the top of the container....

as far as hiding your little project i have 2 things to say..

first i am one of those people who will tell you to tell your roommate before hand... i would tell anyone who is getting ready to grow inside to make sure those who live there are ok with it... just to avoid issues later.. i would give you way more shit if you were a kid trying to grow at home without the parents knowing or something.. just wanted to throw out there i think that you should talk to your roommate first...

second, your best bet to hide it is in a closet.. if not, throw a dark blanket or something over it and use it as a night stand or something by your bed... you can choose where the filter, if you use a filter, will go... so you can rig it to fit wherever you want... just a couple ideas for you..
Ok so you are saying i should just put like 2 exhaust fans near the top and that will do it? i was thinking about probely getting a little battery operated fan and just sticking that in the corner to keep the air flow going. And then i will just close of the box and have the jar of gel inside.
Ya my roomate would be ok with it, he smoke all the time and has weed laying all over his room, i just dont have him knowing cause i dont want him coming in some time when he is stoned or something looking for more weed and knowing where its at lol
 

simpsonsampson420

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Ok so you are saying i should just put like 2 exhaust fans near the top and that will do it? i was thinking about probely getting a little battery operated fan and just sticking that in the corner to keep the air flow going. And then i will just close of the box and have the jar of gel inside.
Ya my roomate would be ok with it, he smoke all the time and has weed laying all over his room, i just dont have him knowing cause i dont want him coming in some time when he is stoned or something looking for more weed and knowing where its at lol

ill try to explain myself a little more... put an intake hole at the bottom left side of the box (it can be either side.. just using left as an example)... put a little piece of screen over the hole so bugs cant get in it... put an exhaust fan in the top right corner (or opposite top side of where the intake hole is) so it is pulling air out of the box and exhausting it out.. you can use one or two.. your call.. but the idea is that as the fans pull warm air from the top of the box and blows it out, it will bring cool air through the hole at the bottom of the box and pull it through the box... does that make a little more sense??

as far as the rest goes it sounds good.. and it makes sense with the roomate... dont need someone stoned pinchin your plant!
 

MJforTN

Member
this is a great post... i just recently started my 1st grow about a mth ago and i wish i would have read this b4 now... i am using the t8 bulbs and while the do put off a lot of light to me, i dont think my babies enjoy it... they are growing super slow and are only a few inches tall... simpson if you wouldnt mind take a look at my pics on my profile... i dont know how to post pics on here yet.... thanks for all the info!!
 

ganjaluvr

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yea heres a question for ya.

what would you suggest the NPK scale be.. for each cycle of growth for mj?

Vegetative cycle: ?-?-?

Flowering cycle: ?-?-?

I have some Schultz 'All Purpose Liquid Plant Food - PLUS' npk= 10-15-10
is that usable for veg or flowering cycles? If not I wont use it. Then again thats why I asked you that question
because I'm not really sure what i should look for as far as NPK scale I should use for veg and then flowering cycles.
 

simpsonsampson420

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this is a great post... i just recently started my 1st grow about a mth ago and i wish i would have read this b4 now... i am using the t8 bulbs and while the do put off a lot of light to me, i dont think my babies enjoy it... they are growing super slow and are only a few inches tall... simpson if you wouldnt mind take a look at my pics on my profile... i dont know how to post pics on here yet.... thanks for all the info!!
after looking at your pics your plant looks great and healthy.. but like you said small for the amount of growth time... it is directly related to the light.. plants dont see light like we do.... we see light and how bright it is based on the bulb and how well it lights a room... plants see light through wave lengths and spectrums... although floros such as t5/t8/t12s may look bright to us and light the room well for us, the light that the plant would see and use is spread over the entire length of the bulb and pushed in many different directions, with only a small amount of it actually hitting the plant to be used...

bulbs such as HID bulbs and CFLs push all their light from smaller focal points.. this means the light is more directed and more intense... it takes much mroe energy to create light energy from 1 point (a cfl or hid bulb) than spread over an area (long tube floros)... this means it takes more floros to get the same amount of light to 1 point then if you were using CFLs or of course HIDs...

the light you are using is sufficient to grow with but is more suited to just root clones.. your plant will grow it will just take a long time... if you want to increase growth rate you need to add more light... it would be best to purchase some CFL bulbs.. they have "y-splitters" that allow you to connect to bulbs to 1 cord/socket set.. there are 2 sockets of course on it... a couple larger watt cfls will increase your growth rate a lot... rememeber that when you purchase, lets say, a 300w cfl it is not actually 300w's.. its the equvilant to 300ws.. which i think means its more like 90 or 100ws.. so you dont need to worry at all about power consumption or anything like that...

like i said earlier tho.. your plants look nice.. they just need more light to grow faster..

anything else i can help you with??




yea heres a question for ya.

what would you suggest the NPK scale be.. for each cycle of growth for mj?

Vegetative cycle: ?-?-?

Flowering cycle: ?-?-?

I have some Schultz 'All Purpose Liquid Plant Food - PLUS' npk= 10-15-10
is that usable for veg or flowering cycles? If not I wont use it. Then again thats why I asked you that question
because I'm not really sure what i should look for as far as NPK scale I should use for veg and then flowering cycles.

the NPK values represent the amount of nirtogen, phosphorous, and potassium in the nutes you are using.. the numbers them selves tell you 2 things.. the amount of each compared to one another, and the percentage of that specific nute in the fert. all together...

so a 20-10-5 tells you this

there is 20% nitrogen in the nutes and there is twice as much nitrogen as phosphorus and 4 times the amount that there is of potassium... 10% of the nute is phosphorus, and 5% of it is potassium.. the rest is fillers...

durung veg growth your plant will use a LOT of nitrogen... which means during your vegetative growth stage you want a high N content.. it will use less phosphorus and potassium.. so those numbers should be lower..

during flowering your plant uses a LOT of phosphorus.. the further into flowering, the more it uses.... also during flowering it almost stops using nitrogen at all.. so your flowering nutes should have a low N and a high P value.. a little nitrogen in your flowering nutes are ok.. but you dont need much.. it just helps to keep the leaves green..

potassium is used throughout the entire grow, so you want some sort of K value the entire grow...

now as far as what numbers to actually use it is hard to say... different nute manufactures use different formulas which cause different NPK numbers to appear on the package.. knowing what they mean is the important thing... keep in mind tho, that the larger the numbers are the more "intense" the nutes are and the stronger they will be... more isnt always better when it comes to nutes...

an all purpose plant food like you have will work, but you can run into issues with salt build ups if you use too much.. especially with all in one nutes you have to be careful... they can be used with great success as long as you pay attention to your plant and how it reacts to the feedings.. i highly recommend only using at most a 1/2 strength does... if you do stick with that...

if you have the money, and want to have the most control over what you feed your plant and make sure they are getting only what they need when they need it you should switch to a 2 or 3 part nute.. 2 parts have a veg and bloom formula that contains everything your plant needs during those stages.. 3 part systems, which cost the most in the end, give you the most control tho... they have a veg, bloom, and "boost" formula... this means you can custom blend your nutes and give them more of whatever they need when they need it and less when they dont...

both the 2 and 3 part systems should come with guideline feeding schedules... and if not you can get them on line.. it takes a little more work with these.. but the results are better.. and it helps limit nute burn or nute deficiency because, again, your plant is only getting what it needs when it needs it and you can add or subtract amounts depending on the plants needs...

i hope that helped out... if you have anything else you would like to know feel free to ask..
 
Let us (my wife and I) just say, BUMP. We'd love for everyone to see this thread. We've been lurking on these forums for about a month now gathering info for our soon to be closet grow and this post has some amazing info. We love that its all in on place!

This is our first post, but we've seen lots with +Rep, would love to give you rep if we can. How do we go about doing that?

Here is our setup, any critiques would be helpful.

My wife and I are planning on setting up our grow in a small closet 20" D x 35" W x 78" H. We plan on splitting the closet up by putting a shelf and light proofing everything. The top 4 feet will be for flowering and the bottom 2 1/2 feet will be for veging. Since its in a closet and we don't want to spend a ton we're doing 42 watt CFL's throughout. We have 6 red ones for the top/flowering portion and will probably mount 2 more on each side to get to the bottom growth, and will be getting like 4 blue 42 watt cfls for the bottom/veg portion. All of my cfl's will be mounted to platforms that will be able to lower all the way to the bottom if needed so we can adjust them as the plant grows.

While the closet is 20 inches deep and 35 inches wide we'll be taking 5 inches off the width and creating a 5 inch space where we'll have all our venting and electrical running. We'll have 1 intake (made of dryer flexible vents) running into each area and one exhaust running from each area to a 4 inline exhaust fan connected to a DIY carbon scrubber. The fan and scrubber are in a seperate litle cubby above the closet so it will create a negative pressure in the grow room below, sucking air in.

For a growing medium we're going with Soil since its pretty forgiving. We plan on doing a 2 stage nutrient and using soil ph strips, soil watering meter, Fox Farms Soil and thermometer for the inside of the grow room. For the bottom/veg side since its such a small area we plan on having a mother in a small square pot doing something kinda bonsai like shown here: http://www.cannabase.com/cl/pages/mums/mums.html and then of course some cup's to 1 gallon setups for the clones. For the top/flowering we plan on using 3.5 to 5 gallon pots and only doing 1-2 plants at a time.

Of course everything covered in mylar and lights on timers (18/6 for bottom, 12/12 for top). We have two little oscilatting fans that are about 3 inches across that we'll mount in each area. The closet will be locked with a hidden lock I'm setting up to keep a casual person from opening it. We don't have very many guests, but better to be safe than sorry.

We have no expectations like a lot of people do (as far as expected grams/plant). This is only for my wife and I so it only needs to grow enough for us. We are going to start off with some autoflowering strain first in the flowering chamber while growing a nirvana northern lights mother in the bottom. Any comments or changes you'd make would be apreciated
 

simpsonsampson420

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Let us (my wife and I) just say, BUMP. We'd love for everyone to see this thread. We've been lurking on these forums for about a month now gathering info for our soon to be closet grow and this post has some amazing info. We love that its all in on place!

This is our first post, but we've seen lots with +Rep, would love to give you rep if we can. How do we go about doing that?

Here is our setup, any critiques would be helpful.

My wife and I are planning on setting up our grow in a small closet 20" D x 35" W x 78" H. We plan on splitting the closet up by putting a shelf and light proofing everything. The top 4 feet will be for flowering and the bottom 2 1/2 feet will be for veging. Since its in a closet and we don't want to spend a ton we're doing 42 watt CFL's throughout. We have 6 red ones for the top/flowering portion and will probably mount 2 more on each side to get to the bottom growth, and will be getting like 4 blue 42 watt cfls for the bottom/veg portion. All of my cfl's will be mounted to platforms that will be able to lower all the way to the bottom if needed so we can adjust them as the plant grows.

While the closet is 20 inches deep and 35 inches wide we'll be taking 5 inches off the width and creating a 5 inch space where we'll have all our venting and electrical running. We'll have 1 intake (made of dryer flexible vents) running into each area and one exhaust running from each area to a 4 inline exhaust fan connected to a DIY carbon scrubber. The fan and scrubber are in a seperate litle cubby above the closet so it will create a negative pressure in the grow room below, sucking air in.

For a growing medium we're going with Soil since its pretty forgiving. We plan on doing a 2 stage nutrient and using soil ph strips, soil watering meter, Fox Farms Soil and thermometer for the inside of the grow room. For the bottom/veg side since its such a small area we plan on having a mother in a small square pot doing something kinda bonsai like shown here: http://www.cannabase.com/cl/pages/mums/mums.html and then of course some cup's to 1 gallon setups for the clones. For the top/flowering we plan on using 3.5 to 5 gallon pots and only doing 1-2 plants at a time.

Of course everything covered in mylar and lights on timers (18/6 for bottom, 12/12 for top). We have two little oscilatting fans that are about 3 inches across that we'll mount in each area. The closet will be locked with a hidden lock I'm setting up to keep a casual person from opening it. We don't have very many guests, but better to be safe than sorry.

We have no expectations like a lot of people do (as far as expected grams/plant). This is only for my wife and I so it only needs to grow enough for us. We are going to start off with some autoflowering strain first in the flowering chamber while growing a nirvana northern lights mother in the bottom. Any comments or changes you'd make would be apreciated
thanks for checking out the thread and glad you found it useful...

as far as your setup goes it sounds good.. you can tell you've put a lot of though into it... there are only a couple small suggestions and tips i have for you...

first is light.. i understand wanting to keep it simple.. but i would recommend getting a few more lights.. or even larger ones.. remember that a 42w cfl is not actually 42w's.. just the equivalent.. so you can get larger ones and still keep it very inexpensive.. even if you only added a couple 150w cfls, or replaced a couple of the 42's with larger ones it would help a lot..

second is walls.. if you can paint the walls flat white it will help the efficiency of your lights by reflecting it back onto the plants.. of course its not going to be the best.. but a gallon of white paint is cheap and easy to apply...

third is just to make sure you have plenty or soil amendments like perlite or peat moss... you want at least 20% to 30% of the soil to be some sort of amendments to help with aeration and drainage...

other than that it sounds you have a pretty good grasp on what you are going to do.. its a solid plan.. i am sure things will happen along the way.. if you have and questions feel free to ask..
 
We were planning on putting mylar around the entire inside so no need to paint it.

Forgot to mention the perlite, We are definitely doing that at 30% (learned that one from this thread, thanks again!)

As for the lights the ones I have are 42 watt cfls, but they say equivalent to 150 watts. They are like the ones found here. Or are you thinking I should get the ones that are 150 watts or equivalent to 500 watts like here? Difference in cost is like 40 bucks more. However, we could do one or two of those if you think we'll need those.
 

simpsonsampson420

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We were planning on putting mylar around the entire inside so no need to paint it.

Forgot to mention the perlite, We are definitely doing that at 30% (learned that one from this thread, thanks again!)

As for the lights the ones I have are 42 watt cfls, but they say equivalent to 150 watts. They are like the ones found here. Or are you thinking I should get the ones that are 150 watts or equivalent to 500 watts like here? Difference in cost is like 40 bucks more. However, we could do one or two of those if you think we'll need those.
good to hear about the mylar.. make sure you keep it as flat as possible.. and use the thickest mylar you can find..

also good to hear about the perlite.. that will help you out a lot in the long run...

as far as lighting goes ill put it like this... use as many cfls as you can and make them as big as you can... since cfl lighting is much weaker it takes more to get the job done.. if you can afford a few of the larger ones then go for it.. but stay within your budget... just use the largest bulbs you can, as many as you can, as long as your budget allows..
 

Greenstuff

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Great post Simpsonsampson.

You said water temperature should be 65-75 and soil temperature 70-75. What's the best way to keep the soil temperature between 70-75? and would this be for the whole grow process? And if im watering my plants with water temps of 65-75 will in effect the soil temperature much?

Last question;

You said to use 1tsp of Molasses per Gallon of water, so for example if i have 5 plants, do i get five 1 Gallon pots and put a Gallon of water into each and 1tsp of Molasses for each 1 Gallon pots? If so, do i give a Gallon of this mixture for each of my 5 plants?

Thanks for the help.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/simpsonsampson420-131271.html
 

simpsonsampson420

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thanks man... ill add some more light!!
if you start a journal or post any pics please let me know.. hope all goes well!

Great post Simpsonsampson.

You said water temperature should be 65-75 and soil temperature 70-75. What's the best way to keep the soil temperature between 70-75? and would this be for the whole grow process? And if im watering my plants with water temps of 65-75 will in effect the soil temperature much?

Last question;

You said to use 1tsp of Molasses per Gallon of water, so for example if i have 5 plants, do i get five 1 Gallon pots and put a Gallon of water into each and 1tsp of Molasses for each 1 Gallon pots? If so, do i give a Gallon of this mixture for each of my 5 plants?

Thanks for the help.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/simpsonsampson420-131271.html
thanks GS.. as always, glad you found things useful..

as far as temps go, the water temp was more for a reservoir if you were using hydroponics... at any rate the best way to keep temps (soil and res) within the ideal range is to keep the ambient air temperature of the room low... with hydroponics you can always get a water chiller to assist.. with soil the best thing to do is keep good air movement... usually a good breeze in your grow room is enough to keep the soil temps low... as the plants get larger they shade the soil which helps a lot too... you can also use white pots as they reflect light and heat.. if you use cooler water when you water, it will help lower the temp of the soil also... but this is only good for the time you water... im sure it would keep temps lower for about 24 hours until the water warms.. but most of the time its not something you will have to worry about... most of the time you should be fine.. unless you have a really hot grow room...

let me know if im doing ok?thanks
things look good pete... plants look nice.. clones look healthy.. looks like you have plenty of lighting and the fan supplies plenty of good air movement... anything specific you want to know or are worried about feel free to ask.. but like i said, everything looks good.. happy growing
 

Nemanja

Member
Hi man. Great info - i'm researching my very first grow and this is very helpful!

Quick question though regarding light and the stress training stuff.

I'm planning on doing a small grow (just a couple of plants) using only cfls. I'm going to have them in desk lamps (you know like the bendy ones that you can angle them any way you want?)

I was thinking that the best way to place them around the plants would be to have some ABOVE them plant and some SIDEWAYS onto the plant so that light can penetrate every part of the plant. Would that be a good idea or do lights have to always be at the top of the plant?

I dont think I've seen a post with a light setup like the one im planning.

Thanks

p.s. what's a bump?!
 

simpsonsampson420

Well-Known Member
Hi man. Great info - i'm researching my very first grow and this is very helpful!

Quick question though regarding light and the stress training stuff.

I'm planning on doing a small grow (just a couple of plants) using only cfls. I'm going to have them in desk lamps (you know like the bendy ones that you can angle them any way you want?)

I was thinking that the best way to place them around the plants would be to have some ABOVE them plant and some SIDEWAYS onto the plant so that light can penetrate every part of the plant. Would that be a good idea or do lights have to always be at the top of the plant?

I dont think I've seen a post with a light setup like the one im planning.

Thanks

p.s. what's a bump?!

your light setup would be good.. it would ensure the plant gets plenty of light from all directions.. just make sure to keep them as close as possible to the plant.. and also.. depending on the lamp ballast you choose the foot print could be very small.. make sure to try to get a lamp ballast like you said that was a wider reflector end to get a little more spread with your lights.... also the larger the bulb you can use the better...

a bump isnt really anything.. its just a way to "bump" your thread back up the thread list to the top... if you have questions you dont get answers to.. or if a thread gets burried like this one its a way to take it back to the top of the forum list..
 
Hello please help how are you suposed to test the pH of the water that comes out from the plants ? i'm using a drop color tester but the water that comes from the pots is already coloured ( yellow , brown ), is this to be taken into account ? I tried it today but don't feel i got a true reading , it said 5.5 - 6 but that yellow water has just got me confused. I plan to just always add pH 7 ish water does this sound about right ??
 
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