Foxfarm grow big during flowering??

greensnow

Active Member
ok so i just ran out of my big bloom and my hydro store is out of it too. is it ok to use grow big while im waiting for big bloom to come back in? im almost exactly a month into flowering and i dont wanna fuck my babies up.

thx guys
 

caltootall

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bro im going through the same exact problem. i not going to use my grow big during flowering, because i read some where that feeding ur plants high amounts of N has adverse affects on thc production. thats why u switch to big bloom because its low in N and high in phor. here are some pics Blue Cheese 30 days into flower. after i took these pics i flushed them for the second time in a month.
 

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rolla8

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No, do NOT use GrowBig during the flowering phase. You will end up doing much more harm than good. Just use plain water until you can get some TigerBloom. GrowBig contains way too much nitrogen and not nearly enough phosphorus to properly nourish and support a plant that is in the flowering stage of its life. Also, GrowBig does not contain the proper ratios of micro-nutrients for the flowering phase. If you use the GrowBig rather than just wait until you can get some TigerBloom, you will end up shocking your plants. Trust me on this, you don't want to do it.

One last point... You cannot use BigBloom as a stand-alone nutrient. It must be used in conjunction with TigerBloom. BigBloom is a growth catalyst designed to supplement TigerBloom. If you look at the bottles, you will see that BigBloom only contains trace amounts of NPK, nowhere near enough to provide your plants with the nutrients they need. It is packed with all sorts of biologicals and trace elements, and that's why it is used to supplement TigerBloom. TigerBloom is a complete flowering nutrient solution and can be used with or without BigBloom. It contains adequate amounts of macronutrients (NPK) as well as secondary and trace elements. If for some reason you cannot get both the TigerBloom and the BigBloom, then buy TigerBloom since it can be used on its own, unlike BigBloom.
 

Ridgegoo

Active Member
big bloom isn't high in anything, it's mainly a catalyst. The NPK numbers are 0.01-0.3-0.7 where as tiger bloom is 2-8-4. The FF feeding schedule suggests that you use it along with grow big and tiger bloom. It's guano and worm castings mostly if I remember correctly, which you can buy on your own for much cheaper and use as a top dress or make a tea.
 

bootkiller

Member
ok so what if you experence yellowing leaves during early flowering like week 3 and they have 4 weeks min left to go.. cause i thought maybe a lock out but it wasnt.. so i laid back a week and it just got worse and worse.. now they are yellowing all the way up the plant and at the top with the yellowing witch is causing the bottom leaves to die off.. so today i added for 1 gallon of water , 1 tbl grow big, 1 tbl big bloom, 1 tbl , tiger bloom, and 1 tsp cali magic. think it was a good ideal.. oh yeah,(2) 1000w air cooled hoods, 440cfm inline fan. 1 200cfm booster fan, 4x8 grow tent, FFOF soil, 5 gallon warrior pots. wonderwoman, white widow, ak48, snow white, master kush, ppp
also using c02 bag by exhale. oh and the lights are dimed down to 750 Ea for now.. due to i want to keep my temps under 80..
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hyroot

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Fox farm nutes are not organic. Chems are bad mmkay and are only for people who don't know how to grow.
 

hyroot

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ok so what if you experence yellowing leaves during early flowering like week 3 and they have 4 weeks min left to go.. cause i thought maybe a lock out but it wasnt.. so i laid back a week and it just got worse and worse.. now they are yellowing all the way up the plant and at the top with the yellowing witch is causing the bottom leaves to die off.. so today i added for 1 gallon of water , 1 tbl grow big, 1 tbl big bloom, 1 tbl , tiger bloom, and 1 tsp cali magic. think it was a good ideal.. oh yeah,(2) 1000w air cooled hoods, 440cfm inline fan. 1 200cfm booster fan, 4x8 grow tent, FFOF soil, 5 gallon warrior pots. wonderwoman, white widow, ak48, snow white, master kush, ppp
also using c02 bag by exhale. oh and the lights are dimed down to 750 Ea for now.. due to i want to keep my temps under 80..
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that's phos and iron def. Not nitrogen def.
 

Nullis

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Big Bloom is organic, the others are not. You probably could use only Big Bloom without any issues, depending on the soil\potting mix you're using and what's in it. A healthy living soil wouldn't really need anything else.
big bloom isn't high in anything, it's mainly a catalyst. The NPK numbers are 0.01-0.3-0.7 where as tiger bloom is 2-8-4. The FF feeding schedule suggests that you use it along with grow big and tiger bloom. It's guano and worm castings mostly if I remember correctly, which you can buy on your own for much cheaper and use as a top dress or make a tea.
NPK isn't everything, but even though the ratio seems 'low', the directions call for using quite a bit more than other nutrients (4 to 8 tablespoons). And while there are earthworm castings and bat\seabird guano in it, there is also some other stuff like kelp, rock phosphate and beneficial bacteria (Bacillus). Also, the liquid Big Bloom has already been 'processed' by microbes... for some people this is much easier to use than raw guano, and it can be used with every watering. Raw guano can easily be over-applied and shouldn't be used late in Bloom, or very frequently. Raw guano also tends to lack available K (potassium).

Synthetic nutrients have higher NPKs because much of the fertilizer applied never actually makes it to the rhizosphere, or it leaches right out of the soil.
 

bootkiller

Member
Big Bloom is organic, the others are not. You probably could use only Big Bloom without any issues, depending on the soil\potting mix you're using and what's in it. A healthy living soil wouldn't really need anything else.


NPK isn't everything, but even though the ratio seems 'low', the directions call for using quite a bit more than other nutrients (4 to 8 tablespoons). And while there are earthworm castings and bat\seabird guano in it, there is also some other stuff like kelp, rock phosphate and beneficial bacteria (Bacillus). Also, the liquid Big Bloom has already been 'processed' by microbes... for some people this is much easier to use than raw guano, and it can be used with every watering. Raw guano can easily be over-applied and shouldn't be used late in Bloom, or very frequently. Raw guano also tends to lack available K (potassium).

Synthetic nutrients have higher NPKs because much of the fertilizer applied never actually makes it to the rhizosphere, or it leaches right out of the soil.
http://www.marijuanagrowguide.net/Soil.html i found this helpful
 
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