GML Accusations..

I saw it too lol...you fkrs are harshin my vibe, jeez

Gregshed said:

Sodiums are a good mix of gasses, cmh even better when looking at line spectral emission chart. Much fuller but led has better balance. I'm not expecting you to know the ins and outs of light to this level of detail. It's why the sun has the best emerson effect being a ball of gas.

Led manufacturers can do what they want, if they fall foul it will get discussed, what we're doing so why the constant argument? Are you GML? Probably.

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Say you dont know anything without saying it.

Wattzzup said:

That will keep him busy today.

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I have only read fragments of your posts. But I have read enough to know that you can grow some mean herb.

It's too bad that the cannabis industry is such a pathetic cesspool of crap. I know nothing of this particular manufacturer and the claims against them. All sectors of the industry are rife with lies and outright fraud. From lights to nutrients to pollen chuckers and their seeds. It's pathetic with every greedy bastard doing anything they can to try and grab some of that money. So many growers are willing to just spend without thought on anything and everything with the hopes that they might increase their harvest by .001 grams per watt of light.

I just shake my head in disbelief when someone goes on about how Miracle Gro is the devil and then in another post they'll be raving about Brand X nutrients that claims 30% increases in yield if you use their Bud Blaster Xtra Big which is just MKP and water. Or people bragging about their LED's and quoting manipulated numbers while calling anyone not using their lights a relic living in the past.

People can have that crap. I grow with HID's and use some of the cheapest nutrients available. I've seen enough photos to know that with all the latest and greatest lighting and nutrients many still can't grow a healthy plant from seed to harvest.

I really wish the FTC would crack down on all these companies and their false advertising and fraudulent claims that are rampant in the industry.

mudballs said:

I have no idea what paddy did to piss you guys off but man you guys are vicious

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I blame it on low blood sugar. No seriously i never heard of the guy I was just expecting the clean up crew and it happened to be him as predicted

Thinking this thread has pretty much shot its load …. Some sorry ass ex associate is wanking , HLG will carry on.

Just as would any company. I Was with them since their COB rigs - pretty happy. Ran tester / proto boards for them.
Gave them my 2 cents on a few things … actually compared to some Atreum boards and Zeus 308 awhile back.

Not necessarily a fan boy ( No T-shirt …. Bastards ) but only stuck with wut worked for me. Their products NEVER FAILED.

So I don’t necessarily am jumping on hype train …. But that guy must be the same one I mentioned awhile back reverse engineering
products with mainland suppliers .

Crooks gonna be crooks - ask Cody or Spammy Cammy.


Peace

Rocket Soul said:

Say you dont know anything without saying it.

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LEDs omitted a lot of the spectrum, focused more on blue red and slimmer peaks.

Don't know anything, what's the width of each band on a real light bar chart then? I'll wait since you like putting everyone down and think your the know it all.

PJ Diaz said:

Mars and Spider Farmer are made by the same company anyway.

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While I was researching LED fixtures, I noticed according to the
Manufacture's Listing @ the DesignLights Consortium that:

Mars Hydro is manufactured by:
LG-LED Solutions Limited

Spyder Farmer is manufactured by:
Shenzhen Meizhiguang Technology Co. LTD.

Budzbuddha said:

Thinking this thread has pretty much shot its load …. Some sorry ass ex associate is wanking , HLG will carry on.

Just as would any company. I Was with them since their COB rigs - pretty happy. Ran tester / proto boards for them.
Gave them my 2 cents on a few things … actually compared to some Atreum boards and Zeus 308 awhile back.

Not necessarily a fan boy ( No T-shirt …. Bastards ) but only stuck with wut worked for me. Their products NEVER FAILED.

So I don’t necessarily am jumping on hype train …. But that guy must be the same one I mentioned awhile back reverse engineering
products with mainland suppliers .

Crooks gonna be crooks - ask Cody or Spammy Cammy.


Peace

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This is second time HGL/Scammie's been mentioned in this thread. Dont Candyman summon her by mentioning her a third time, please. This kinda clusterfuck is her natural habitat.

OSBuds said:

While I was researching LED fixtures, I noticed according to the
Manufacture's Listing @ the DesignLights Consortium that:

Mars Hydro is manufactured by:
LG-LED Solutions Limited

Spyder Farmer is manufactured by:
Shenzhen Meizhiguang Technology Co. LTD.

MyDLC - DesignLights

qpl.designlights.org

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They are from same sources…. I ran a thread some time ago about SAME distribution points ( down to the same city and depot ) - many companies have sub branding ( think chevy / GMC ) .

It pushed a few buttons and had me hand slapped with ruler. I even had screenshots of distribution points one to one.

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE

Maybe you guys prefer the “ GigaWatt lamp “ - that lamp could take rounds from an AR-15 ( as it was shown by nukeheads. )

Think Quantum, Browning, Shakespeare, Bass Pro, Lews reels and more, all the same basic frame with custom options on bearings and gears. And of course, badging. All from the same factory in China making “competition” a bit of a joke.

LG LED Solutions builds Mars and a lot of other lights at lower to mid price points.

We used an HLG quantum board in a limited run product line we manufactured in 2016. Our dealings with @robincnn and @Stephenj37826 were always professional and we always received good products in line with our expectations.

While we cannot and will not comment on any allegations, I would like to publicly advocate for HLG, a fellow small business run by good folks.

I remember when the Area 51 guy (Jeff?) was like a God on this forum. His lights were in demand. He knew it, too and would literally insult people and took every opportunity to be rude if someone asked a question that he thought was dumb. I guess my point is that when HLG and some of the more professionally-minded light builders started showing up, it felt good. It felt good because it meant the end to the monopoly that only a few light builders were enjoying at that time. And it meant that business owners couldn't be publicly rude and unprofessional, anymore, without suffering losing their business to the competition. Customers were so hungry for GOOD customer service that when real, professional companies started providing it, it meant a lot to their success. Good lights only take you so far. Customer relations and trustworthiness are essential, as well.

tstick said:

I remember when the Area 51 guy (Jeff?) was like a God on this forum. His lights were in demand. He knew it, too and would literally insult people and took every opportunity to be rude if someone asked a question that he thought was dumb. I guess my point is that when HLG and some of the more professionally-minded light builders started showing up, it felt good. It felt good because it meant the end to the monopoly that only a few light builders were enjoying at that time. And it meant that business owners couldn't be publicly rude and unprofessional, anymore, without suffering losing their business to the competition. Customers were so hungry for GOOD customer service that when real, professional companies started providing it, it meant a lot to their success. Good lights only take you so far. Customer relations and trustworthiness are essential, as well.

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So it's precise information about the product I am buying OR someone being nice to me? why can't it be both?

OSBuds said:

While I was researching LED fixtures, I noticed according to the
Manufacture's Listing @ the DesignLights Consortium that:

Mars Hydro is manufactured by:
LG-LED Solutions Limited

Spyder Farmer is manufactured by:
Shenzhen Meizhiguang Technology Co. LTD.

MyDLC - DesignLights

qpl.designlights.org

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Gregshed said:

LEDs omitted a lot of the spectrum, focused more on blue red and slimmer peaks.

Don't know anything, what's the width of each band on a real light bar chart then? I'll wait since you like putting everyone down and think your the know it all.

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You seem to be talking about lights which nobody but dummys are using anymore. Evrybody left blurple behind long ago cause it compares like shit to hps. And yes, you are right about them, its just that nobody is talking about blurples anymore. Did you mention mono cromatic HPS or did i imagine it ??? Its hard to keep track of what you are actually saying. How does HPS have a fuller spectrum than white led with 2% blue? Have you seen grotbags own built light setup before digging into him?

The sun has the best emerson effect cause its a gas is non factual and sorry it shows you havent read up what it actually is or when it applies. To be clear: emerson effect is negligble at sun light intensity levels, it is only a thing in low light levels. Again your drinking from the hype coolaid with out going after facts.

What is a real light bar chart? As opposed to imaginary ones? are you saying theres like a physical property important to growing plants tied to the scaling of spectrum graphs? Are you talking about the width of the blue / red peaks? It depends on the diode, go look for the datasheet it is there if you need it.

Listen, i might have put you down and im sorry over that, i try to be nice to people everywhere, but there are very few ways of setting straight the things you say which just arent, without it being a put down.