GOP is disgusting slime

ChesusRice

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Heres a start

Bob Dylan once wrote, "There's no success like failure [we learn from our mistakes], and failure is no success at all." So what has Mr. Obama learned from his mistakes? Admitting to no mistakes during the past three years, "success" is exactly the way the Obama administration explains away the more than 5 trillion taxpayer dollars that have so far been spent. While "success" is most often measured by its return, benefit, or gain, with no way to prove otherwise, this administration chooses to measure its success by "how much worse the recession might have been" if they had not spent the $5 trillion. In fact, as we get closer to the election, these same experts are now telling us that the $5 trillion they spent actually saved the world from another Great Depression. They base this conclusion, of course, on...well, their failure. How noble. Having gained nothing from our $5 trillion somehow proves that they were right to spend it and save us all from "much worse."The last time such success was measured by the depth of its failure was The Great Depression. As my friend Alan the Liberal recently told me, "if there's one thing we learned from the Great Depression, it's that we need to spend more." The fact is that in 1933, unemployment was 18%. By 1938 (just prior to the WWII draft), despite billions of dollars injected into the economy via the First New Deal, the National Recovery Act, the various federal work programs, and the Second New Deal, unemployment was 12.5%, while the federal government, through its various work programs, was employing an additional 10.5%. Despite all the government spending, unemployment had effectively increased. Compare that to the Marshall Plan, during which some $26 billion, or 10% of our GDP at that time, was spent through private industry. Unemployment during those years (1946 to 1952) ranged between 3.9% and 5.3%, despite millions of our servicemen and women returning home from the war and joining the work force.Barak Obama, in 2008, won the presidency on the platform that (among other things) he understood the country's economic problems and, more importantly, knew how to solve them. Three-plus years later, the administration is now telling us that "The economy turns out to have been far worse ... than we knew at the time," "we are moving in the right direction," and that he now "needs more time to fix the economy.""The economy turns out to have been far worse ... than we knew at the time" simply tells us that Mr. Obama never understood the problems to begin with."Moving in the right direction"? Despite more than three years and some $2 trillion spent on bailouts, handouts, and so-called stimulus, there are approximately three million fewer people employed today than were employed in 2008. Approximately three quarters of a million fewer women are employed today than were employed in 2008. Several million others have given up looking for employment entirely, gone into retirement, taken permanent disability, or taken jobs in the underground economy. Few if any of these people will ever again contribute to our tax base.Despite the failure of this administration's policies, Mr. Obama now claims to "need more time." Having no plan in hand while simultaneously claiming that we are moving in the right direction, Mr. Obama is clearly telling us that if he is re-elected, we can expect more deficit spending to pay for the same failed policies over the next four years.If these three statements tell us anything, they tell us that Mr. Obama campaigned in 2008 with no understanding of the problem, has chosen the old liberal solution of throwing money at the problem while hoping things improve, and worse yet, cannot come up with a new plan because to do so would not only admit failure, but concede that he never had a clue to begin with.Only in the liberal Democratic world is failure proof of success. We see it not only in the White House, but in Congress, at our universities, and in increases in compensation for fewer hours and less productivity demanded by our municipal unions. Dylan told us that "There is no success like failure," but in fact, Mr. Obama has learned nothing from his failures during more than three years of on-the-job training. And failure is no success at all.
In fact, a growing number of Republican governors have been touting their respective states’ economic performances, contradicting Romney’s message of doom and gloom. And as the Wall Street Journal noted, at least one governor — Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad (R) — believes Romney needs to stop bemoaning the state of the economy:
Iowa’s Republican governor, Terry Branstad, is part of a contingent of GOP governors and party elders urging Mr. Romney to re-tailor his message by highlighting the success stories under way in a half-dozen GOP-led states, even if it means diluting his gloomier national pitch.
While the Romney campaign could easily incorporate that message before the election, the competing narratives have led to some awkward moments. When Mr. Romney traveled to Iowa last month, his campaign released a Web ad highlighting Iowans who were struggling to find work—in a state with a 5.1% jobless rate, the seventh lowest in the U.S.
“My state is seeing significant growth,” Mr. Branstad said in an interview, adding that he didn’t see why the Romney campaign decided to highlight unemployed Iowa residents. Ticking off a long list of companies that are expanding in the state, including Alcoa and John Deere, he said, “We are doing very well.”
 

canndo

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Heres a start

Bob Dylan once wrote, "There's no success like failure [we learn from our mistakes], and failure is no success at all." So what has Mr. Obama learned from his mistakes? Admitting to no mistakes during the past three years, "success" is exactly the way the Obama administration explains away the more than 5 trillion taxpayer dollars that have so far been spent.


We cannot save our way out of a recession like this, curtailed spending simply means a longer and deeper recessino and more pain for the citizens. Point 1 is the debt, that same debt that no one was much interested in when we asked Bush where the money for that "cake walk" "pay for itself" war was going to come from.


While "success" is most often measured by its return, benefit, or gain, with no way to prove otherwise, this administration chooses to measure its success by "how much worse the recession might have been" if they had not spent the $5 trillion. In fact, as we get closer to the election, these same experts are now telling us that the $5 trillion they spent actually saved the world from another Great Depression. They base this conclusion, of course, on...well, their failure.

the logic here is faulty, although it cannot be proven conclusively how bad the recession might have been, there are a number of indicators that say it would have been much worse. There is no proof that not spending the money would have been better.


How noble. Having gained nothing from our $5 trillion somehow proves that they were right to spend it and save us all from "much worse."The last time such success was measured by the depth of its failure was The Great Depression. As my friend Alan the Liberal recently told me, "if there's one thing we learned from the Great Depression, it's that we need to spend more." The fact is that in 1933, unemployment was 18%. By 1938 (just prior to the WWII draft), despite billions of dollars injected into the economy via the First New Deal, the National Recovery Act, the various federal work programs, and the Second New Deal, unemployment was 12.5%, while the federal government, through its various work programs, was employing an additional 10.5%. Despite all the government spending, unemployment had effectively increased.

I always get a kick out of this logic - "well government spending didn't get us out of the depression..... until government spending (the war) got us out of the depression"


that to the Marshall Plan, during which some $26 billion, or 10% of our GDP at that time, was spent through private industry. Unemployment during those years (1946 to 1952) ranged between 3.9% and 5.3%, despite millions of our servicemen and women returning home from the war and joining the work force.

Oh never mind the little fact that we and the war had raized every major and most minor factories in the entire world and were about the only ones left with an intact manufacturing base, transportation and infrastructure and a healthy work force besides. Kinda maybe a little different than now where every country can make about everything we can in half the time.

Barak Obama, in 2008, won the presidency on the platform that (among other things) he understood the country's economic problems and, more importantly, knew how to solve them. Three-plus years later, the administration is now telling us that "The economy turns out to have been far worse ... than we knew at the time," "we are moving in the right direction," and that he now "needs more time to fix the economy.""The economy turns out to have been far worse ... than we knew at the time" simply tells us that Mr. Obama never understood the problems to begin with."Moving in the right direction"? Despite more than three years and some $2 trillion spent on bailouts, handouts, and so-called stimulus, there are approximately three million fewer people employed today than were employed in 2008.

Apparently he was right, they didn't know at the time how bad it would be, or are you going to claim that it wasn't all that bad? If so I got a whole bunch of numbers for you. I am constantly amazed at the right that ignores 8 years of increasing spending, inreasing deficit, deregulation and sport with commerce and claims that Obama is a bad leader because he can't fix what they broke in the time they say he should fix it.


Approximately three quarters of a million fewer women are employed today than were employed in 2008. Several million others have given up looking for employment entirely, gone into retirement, taken permanent disability, or taken jobs in the underground economy. Few if any of these people will ever again contribute to our tax base.Despite the failure of this administration's policies, Mr. Obama now claims to "need more time." Having no plan in hand while simultaneously claiming that we are moving in the right direction, Mr. Obama is clearly telling us that if he is re-elected, we can expect more deficit spending to pay for the same failed policies over the next four years.If these three statements tell us anything, they tell us that Mr. Obama campaigned in 2008 with no understanding of the problem, has chosen the old liberal solution of throwing money at the problem while hoping things improve, and worse yet, cannot come up with a new plan because to do so would not only admit failure, but concede that he never had a clue to begin with.

He may not have a plan, it is possible that we are simply hoping things improve, this I will grant you. The bit about liberals throwing money at things is a bit odd figuring how much money Bush "threw at things" but that is neither here nor there in the grand scheme. This is not now nor has it ever been about the national debt - that is a highly emotional smoke screen. I assure you that if the economy comes roaring back the very first thing that the right will claim is that all that money is "the people's" and it will again seek to "give it back". We saw this once, we will see it again. What is implied here but not stated is that Republicans have a brand new plan, a wonderful new idea that they are just itching to try since, of course Obama's ideas failed. Now I would grant you that if this were the case I would love to see it and perhaps give it a chance. However, what the right pretends is that OBama and his "plan or lack thereof" is the cause of all our problems while in realty the right is waiting in the wings to bring us THE NEW PLAN! which is nothing at all more than the old plan, that plan that obviously did so well for us that we need to do it again.


Only in the liberal Democratic world is failure proof of success. We see it not only in the White House, but in Congress, at our universities, and in increases in compensation for fewer hours and less productivity demanded by our municipal unions. Dylan told us that "There is no success like failure," but in fact, Mr. Obama has learned nothing from his failures during more than three years of on-the-job training. And failure is no success at all.
Bad logic again, this article (I presume you didn't write it, but I could be wrong) did not prove that dems hold that failure is proof of success. What this is, is a perfect regurgitation of Republican talking points. Unfortunately I was forced to use some Dem talking points in refutation but that is the way it goes some times.
 

canndo

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Remember the Democrats trying to throw out the absentee ballots from overseas military personnel in Florida in 2000?

This is all about the voter ID laws and is just another wedge issue for the 2012 election, similar to the "war on women" etc. It's a big yawn.

I am not equiped to defend Republicans actions in 2000. But yes I recall. This is not aout that, this has nothing ot do with that. The recent history of the laws in Ohio and the law suit are plain and make it evident that the GOP is hiding behind the military something that is not at all foreign to them.

Yes, this is about voter ID - voter ID is wrong and it as well is an effort to surpress votes. If the GOP has such a good ticket, such good people, such good ideas, then why are they so suspect of letting everyone vote? Curious that, isn't it?


And if you don't believe there is an ongoing war on women you havn't been paying attention. There have been over a thousand bills antagonistic to women attempted to be passed or passed by Republicans. There is indeed a war on women and voters. The GOP has no shame, and one wonders why.
 

Hemlock

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Letting everyone vote????????? are u dumb. The Demos want illegals immigrants thats your everyone. Thats fukin crazy. They did that in the UK and have a fukin mess on there hands.

Look I don't think either one of them are fit to wash my jock. but if i gotta pick based on performance, Romney all day everyday.

Your man had his shot and he buggered it up.

On the other article I posted those figures are fact no fiction like the unemployment percentages your Pres spouts.


And if you don't believe there is an ongoing war on women you havn't been paying attention. There have been over a thousand bills antagonistic to women attempted to be passed or passed by Republicans. There is indeed a war on women and voters. The GOP has no shame, and one wonders why.[/QUOTE]

Your a bit further out there than I thought.....
Right good night
 

canndo

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Letting everyone vote????????? are u dumb. The Demos want illegals immigrants thats your everyone. Thats fukin crazy. They did that in the UK and have a fukin mess on there hands.

Look I don't think either one of them are fit to wash my jock. but if i gotta pick based on performance, Romney all day everyday.

Your man had his shot and he buggered it up.

On the other article I posted those figures are fact no fiction like the unemployment percentages your Pres spouts.


And if you don't believe there is an ongoing war on women you havn't been paying attention. There have been over a thousand bills antagonistic to women attempted to be passed or passed by Republicans. There is indeed a war on women and voters. The GOP has no shame, and one wonders why.
Your a bit further out there than I thought.....
Right good night[/QUOTE]


Very simply, do you believe that it is worth losing 10 legitimate votes in order to stop 1 illegal vote?
 

Hemlock

Well-Known Member
Your a bit further out there than I thought.....
Right good night

Very simply, do you believe that it is worth losing 10 legitimate votes in order to stop 1 illegal vote?[/QUOTE]

I believe you should have to be an American citizen to vote.
 

Hemlock

Well-Known Member
Presidential campaign events are always orchestrated stage shows, and reporters are used to campaigns doing their best to manipulate the media and control the day’s narrative.
But my experience Thursday at a Michelle Obama event in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania was a first.
Obama campaign operatives barred me from talking to voters outside the event, to the point of interfering with my interviews and grabbing my microphone.


Remember me saying something about political retribution......hmmmmmm... this looks like that. If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck its a fukin duck

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/off-mic/item/42734
 

ChesusRice

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Very simply, do you believe that it is worth losing 10 legitimate votes in order to stop 1 illegal vote?
I believe you should have to be an American citizen to vote.[/QUOTE]

Do you have any evidence that illegals are voting?
Do you have any evidence of widespread voter fraud?
How many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in the last 20 years?
And how many cases of voter fraud were actually american citizens who have not the right to vote becuase of a criminal record?
 

Hemlock

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I believe you should have to be an American citizen to vote.
Do you have any evidence that illegals are voting?
Do you have any evidence of widespread voter fraud?
How many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in the last 20 years?
And how many cases of voter fraud were actually american citizens who have not the right to vote becuase of a criminal record?

we went over all of your questions earlier in this thread
 

ChesusRice

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Do you have any evidence that illegals are voting?
Do you have any evidence of widespread voter fraud?
How many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in the last 20 years?
And how many cases of voter fraud were actually american citizens who have not the right to vote becuase of a criminal record?

we went over all of your questions earlier in this thread
Then how come you don't remember that there is no widespread or pervasive voter fraud.
Why not just come out and admit that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote and disenfranchise people that may vote against them?
Or are you ok with that?
 

Hemlock

Well-Known Member
Then how come you don't remember that there is no widespread or pervasive voter fraud.
Why not just come out and admit that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote and disenfranchise people that may vote against them?
Or are you ok with that?
i think its done by both parties. In there own way. But ones no worse than the other IMO.
 

ChesusRice

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i think its done by both parties. In there own way. But ones no worse than the other IMO.
I present you overwhelming evidence it's the republicans do it
Photo ID laws

See also: Voter ID laws (United States)

Photo ID laws require voters to present a government-approved photo ID before they may cast their ballots. Countries including Belgium, Spain, Greece, Italy, Malta,[3] and seven US states have such laws, including Indiana and Georgia.[4] Unlike in the United States, national identification is commonplace in these European nations and a longstanding infrastructure exists to ensure all voters are issued identification at no cost.[3]

Supporters of photo ID laws contend that the photographic IDs (such as driver's licenses or student IDs (in some states) from state schools) are nearly universal, and that presenting them is a minor inconvenience when weighed against the possibility of ineligible voters affecting elections. Opponents argue that photo ID requirements disproportionately affect minority, handicapped and elderly voters who don't normally maintain driver's licenses, and therefore that requiring such groups to obtain and keep track of photo IDs that are otherwise unneeded is a suppression tactic aimed at those groups.[5]

Indiana's photo ID law barred twelve retired nuns in South Bend, Indiana from voting in that state's 2008 Democratic primary election. The women lacked the photo IDs required under a state law that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in April 2008. John Borkowski, a South Bend lawyer volunteering as an election watchdog for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said, "This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana."[6][7]

Proponents of a similar law proposed for Texas in March 2009 also argued that photo identification was necessary to prevent widespread voter fraud. Opponents respond that there is no evidence of such voter fraud in Texas, so no remedy is required, especially if such a remedy would decrease voting by senior citizens, the disabled, and lower-income residents. Opponents cited a study asserting that 1 million of the state's 13.5 million registered voters do not have a photo ID.[4]

State Sen. Troy Fraser (R-Horseshoe Bay) said, "Voter fraud not only is alive and well in the U.S., but also alive and well in Texas. The danger of voter fraud threatens the integrity of the entire electoral process." Democratic Caucus Chairwoman Leticia Van de Putte (D-San Antonio) said the proposed law "is not about voter fraud. There is no voter fraud. This is about voter suppression." Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott (R) spent $1.4 million investigating voter fraud but did not report any cases where a person tried to impersonate an eligible voter at a polling place—arguably the only kind of fraud that photo ID laws would prevent.[4]

Legislation to impose restrictive photo ID requirements has been prepared by the conservative organization ALEC and circulated to conservative state legislators[5].

In 2011, more than 100 Democratic members of Congress urged the Department of Justice to oppose such legislation, arguing that it "has the potential to block millions of eligible American voters, and thus suppress the right to vote."[8]

Purging voter rolls

In 2008, more than 98,000 registered Georgia voters were removed from the roll of eligible voters because of a computer mismatch in their personal identification information, leading registrars to conclude that they were no longer eligible Georgia voters at their registered addresses. At least 4,500 of those people must prove their citizenship to regain their right to vote, but opponents say that could be an impossible burden to meet. For example, the state of Georgia gave college senior Kyla Berry one week to prove her citizenship in a letter dated October 2, 2008. Unfortunately, the letter was postmarked October 9, 2008. However, Berry is a U.S. citizen, born in Boston, Massachusetts with a passport and a birth certificate to prove it. Commenting on Berry's case and those like it, Wendy Weiser, an elections expert with New York University's Brennan Center for Justice, said, "What most people don't know is that every year, elections officials strike millions of names from the voter rolls using processes that are secret, prone to error and vulnerable to manipulation."[9]

Jim Crow laws

Main article: Jim Crow laws

In the United States, voter suppression was used extensively by Democratic conservatives in most Southern states until the Voting Rights Act (1965) made most disenfranchisement and voting qualifications illegal. Traditional voter suppression tactics included the institution of poll taxes and literacy tests, aimed at suppressing the votes of African Americans and working class white voters.[10][11]

Ex-felon disenfranchisement

Further information: Loss of rights due to felony conviction and Felony disenfranchisement

In 2004, 5.3 million Americans were denied the right to vote because of previous felony convictions. Thirteen states permanently disenfranchise convicted felons; eighteen states restore voting rights after completion of prison, parole, and probation; four states re-enfranchise felons after they have been released from prison and have completed parole; thirteen allow felons who have been released from prison to vote, and two states do not disenfranchise felons at all.[12] Some states require felons to complete a process to restore voting rights, but offender advocates say such processes can be very difficult.

The United States is the only democracy in the world that regularly bans large numbers of felons from voting after they have discharged their sentences. Many countries including Denmark, France, Germany, Israel, Japan, Kenya, Norway, Peru, Sweden, and Zimbabwe allow prisoners to vote (unless convicted of crimes against the electoral system).[13] Some countries, notably the U.K., disenfranchise people for only as long as they are in prison.

In Florida during the 2000 presidential election, some non-felons were banned due to record-keeping errors and not warned of their disqualification until the deadline for contesting it had passed.

This form of vote suppression in the United States disproportionately affects minorities including African-Americans and Latinos.[13] Disenfranchisement of felons is opposed by some as a form of the medieval practice of civil death.[14]

Disinformation about voting procedures

Voters may be given false information about when and how to vote, leading them to fail to cast valid ballots. For example, in recall elections for the Wisconsin State Senate in 2011, Americans for Prosperity (a conservative organization that was supporting Republican candidates) sent many Democratic voters a mailing that gave an incorrect deadline for absentee ballots. Voters who relied on the deadline in the mailing would have sent in their ballots too late for them to be counted.[15] The organization said that the mistake was a typographical error.[16]

Partisan election administration

While the majority of the world's democracies use independent agents to manage elections, 33 of 50 state election directors in the United States are themselves elected partisans. Those party affiliations can create conflicts of interest, or at least the appearance thereof, while directing elections. Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris served as state co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign during the 2000 presidential election, and Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell served as his state's Bush-Cheney co-chair during the 2004 presidential election.[17]

Inequality in Election Day resources

Elections in the United States are funded at the local level, often unequally. In the 2004 elections, Wyoming spent $2.15 per voter while California spent $3.99 per voter. In contrast, Canada spends $9.51 per voter. Underfunded election areas can result in long lines at polling places, requiring some voters either to wait hours to cast a ballot or to forgo their right to vote in that election. Voters who cannot wait the required amount of time are therefore disenfranchised, while voters in well-funded areas with sufficient voting capacity may face minimal or no waiting time.

Delays at polling places are widely regarded as being a greater problem in urban areas.[17][18]

Caging lists

Main article: caging list

Caging lists have been used by political parties to eliminate potential voters registered with other political parties. A political party sends registered mail to addresses of registered voters. If the mail is returned as undeliverable, the mailing organization uses that fact to challenge the registration, arguing that because the voter could not be reached at the address, the registration is fraudulent.[19]

Examples of voter suppression in the United States

2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal

In the 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal, Republican officials attempted to reduce the number of Democratic voters by paying professional telemarketers in Idaho to make repeated hang-up calls to the telephone numbers used by the Democratic Party's ride-to-the-polls phone lines on election day. By tying up the lines, voters seeking rides from the Democratic Party would have more difficulty reaching the party to ask for transportation to and from their polling places.[20][21]

2004 presidential election

In the U.S. presidential election of 2004, some voters got phone calls with false information intended to keep them from voting—saying that their voting place had been changed or that voting would take place on Wednesday as well as on Tuesday. Voters who believed this misinformation would go to the wrong polling place, or worse, not attempt to vote until after the election had ended.[22]

Other allegations surfaced in several states that the group called Voters Outreach of America had collected and submitted Republican voter registration forms while inappropriately discarding voter registration forms where the new voter had chosen to register with the Democratic Party. Such people would believe they had registered to vote, and would only discover on election day that they were not registered and could not cast a ballot.[23][24][25][26]

Michigan Republican state legislator John Pappageorge was quoted as saying, "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election.".[27]

In 2006, four employees of the John Kerry campaign were convicted of slashing the tires of 25 vans rented by the Wisconsin state Republican Party which were to be used for driving Republican monitors to the polls. At the campaign workers' sentencing, Judge Michael B. Brennan told the defendants, "Voter suppression has no place in our country. Your crime took away that right to vote for some citizens."[28][29]

2006 Virginia Senate election

During the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006, Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Jean Jensen concluded that incidents of voter suppression appeared widespread and deliberate. Documented incidents of voter suppression include:[30]
Democratic voters receiving calls incorrectly informing them voting will lead to arrest.
Widespread calls fraudulently claiming to be "[Democratic Senate candidate Jim] Webb Volunteers," falsely telling voters their voting location had changed.
Fliers paid for by the Republican Party, stating "SKIP THIS ELECTION" that allegedly attempted to suppress African-American turnout.

The FBI has since launched an investigation into the suppression attempts.[31] Despite the allegations, Democrat Jim Webb narrowly defeated incumbent George Allen.

2008 presidential election

A review of states' records by The New York Times found unlawful actions leading to widespread voter purges.[32]

A dispute between the Social Security Administration commissioner and the National Association of Secretaries of State about the use of the Social Security database to test the validity of voters led to the shutdown of the database over the Columbus Day holiday weekend.[33]

Georgia

Wait times of between 2 and 10 hours were reported during early voting at multiple Georgia locations[34]

Michigan

Prior to the 2008 United States Presidential Election, on September 16, 2008, Obama legal counsel announced that they would be seeking an injunction to stop an alleged caging scheme in Michigan wherein the state Republican party would use home foreclosure lists to challenge voters still using their foreclosed home as a primary address at the polls.[35] Michigan GOP officials called the suit "desperate."[36] A Federal Appeals court ordered the reinstatement of 5,500 voters wrongly purged from the voter rolls by the State:[34]

Minnesota

The conservative nonprofit Minnesota Majority has been reported as making phone calls claiming that the Minnesota Secretary of State had concerns about the validity of the voters registration. Their actions have been referred to the Ramsey County attorney's office and the U.S. Attorney are looking into Johnson's complaint. [37]

Montana

On October 5, 2008 the Republican Lt. Governor of Montana, John Bohlinger, accused the Montana Republican Party of vote caging to purge 6,000 voters from three counties which trend Democratic. These purges included decorated war veterans and active duty soldiers.[19]

Ohio

Wait times of six hours were reported for early voting in Franklin County leading to people leaving the line without voting.[34]

Wisconsin

The Republican Party attempted to have all 60,000 voters in the heavily Democratic city of Milwaukee who had registered since 1/1/2006 deleted from the voter rolls. The requests were rejected by the Milwaukee Election Commission with Republican commissioner Bob Spindell voting in favor of deletion."[38]

2010 Maryland gubernatorial election

In the Maryland gubernatorial election in 2010, the campaign of Republican candidate Bob Ehrlich hired a consultant who advised that "the first and most desired outcome is voter suppression", in the form of having "African-American voters stay home."[39] To that end, the Republicans placed thousands of Election Day robocalls to Democratic voters, telling them that the Democratic candidate, Martin O'Malley, had won, although in fact the polls were still open for some two more hours.[40] The Republicans' call, worded to seem as if it came from Democrats, told the voters, "Relax. Everything's fine. The only thing left is to watch it on TV tonight."[39] The calls reached 112,000 voters in majority-African American areas.[40] In 2011, Ehrlich's campaign manager, Paul Schurick, was convicted of fraud and other charges because of the calls.[39][40] In 2012, he was sentenced to 30 days of home detention, a one-year suspended jail sentence, and 500 hours of community service over the four years of his probation, with no fine or jail time.[41]
 

Hemlock

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CR please I could pull just as many on the Dems.

Sorry the way forward isn't with the Dems or the repubs.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Still waiting Hemlock for all those examples of Democrats trying to implement voter suppresion
I recorded some killer riffs but i'm kinda bored waiting for you to back up your claims
 

Moses Mobetta

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Still waiting Hemlock for all those examples of Democrats trying to implement voter suppresion
I recorded some killer riffs but i'm kinda bored waiting for you to back up your claims
Heres a nice little bit about my old state rep. a democrat who defrauded taxpayers out of millions of dollars while in office - he sought to be elected afterward

Former state Rep. Christopher P. Asselin turned in nomination papers Thursday, seeking election to the state House of Representatives following an 18-month jail term and a major corruption scandal involving him and other family members. Asselin pleaded guilty in 2007 to bribery, theft and fraud conspiracy charges. He was given an 18-month prison term while his father, Raymond, was ordered to serve 10 years in jail.
 
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