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AthlonJedi

AthlonJedi

Member
Niether I would say Neo-socialist, He wants universal health care, Obama care being the stepping stone for a single payer heath care system, Re-distrubution of wealth, Well known Marxist idealism there, Cap and trade, not saying we should not find smarter ways to produce energy but making it to expensive for everyone is NOT the answer, "Sustainable Development" aka Adgenda 21 and That my friends is openly availible on the UN website, Submit a budget which he is required by LAW to do, yet has yet to do so, a video started the Bengazi Attack? really? Common Core, aka Transformitive Education - Purely progressive Idea, "You didnt build that!" Uhh What? It sure as fuck wasnt you busting your ass. ect, so a healthy mix of marxist, socialist and comunist views and ideals, Oh and lets not for get suspending Artical 14 title 2828 of the US Code in which it is TREASON to provide aid and comfort to stated enemies of the united states so he could send arms to the rebels in Syria OF which Al Quida is a part of. Hmm if you or I did that we would be charged with treason, why hasn't he?
Gun control laws that are now even in obama care?

so Yea, Neo-socialist.
 
ILoveYouSweetLeaf

ILoveYouSweetLeaf

Well-Known Member
a quick search of that pdf you posted shows me this. SORRY ITS LONG.

‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
H. R. 3590—767
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under any data collection activity authorized under
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.’’.
(f) Section 2718 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
by section 1001(5), is amended to read as follows:


so I see nothing there claiming my doc is gonna or has the right to collect data about my firearms, actually the opposite. But maybe I don't see it cause I am tired and about to go to sleep. I hope the sky is still there when I wake up.

"FOX news" two words that should never go together. (that is not directed at you AthlonJedi, I just hate those assholes, don't know what I hate more FOX news or "reality" shows)

after I posted this, I got to read your post above, it sure does sound like you watch fox news from the things you mention above.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
AthlonJedi said:
Niether I would say Neo-socialist, He wants universal health care, Obama care being the stepping stone for a single payer heath care system, Re-distrubution of wealth, Well known Marxist idealism there, Cap and trade, not saying we should not find smarter ways to produce energy but making it to expensive for everyone is NOT the answer, "Sustainable Development" aka Adgenda 21 and That my friends is openly availible on the UN website, Submit a budget which he is required by LAW to do, yet has yet to do so, a video started the Bengazi Attack? really? Common Core, aka Transformitive Education - Purely progressive Idea, "You didnt build that!" Uhh What? It sure as fuck wasnt you busting your ass. ect, so a healthy mix of marxist, socialist and comunist views and ideals, Oh and lets not for get suspending Artical 14 title 2828 of the US Code in which it is TREASON to provide aid and comfort to stated enemies of the united states so he could send arms to the rebels in Syria OF which Al Quida is a part of. Hmm if you or I did that we would be charged with treason, why hasn't he?
Gun control laws that are now even in obama care?

so Yea, Neo-socialist.
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title 14 is about the coast guard, and there is no section 2828.

might wanna double check that bro.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
ILoveYouSweetLeaf said:
a quick search of that pdf you posted shows me this. SORRY ITS LONG.

‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
H. R. 3590—767
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under any data collection activity authorized under
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.’’.
(f) Section 2718 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
by section 1001(5), is amended to read as follows:


so I see nothing there claiming my doc is gonna or has the right to collect data about my firearms, actually the opposite. But maybe I don't see it cause I am tired and about to go to sleep. I hope the sky is still there when I wake up.

"FOX news" two words that should never go together. (that is not directed at you AthlonJedi, I just hate those assholes, don't know what I hate more FOX news or "reality" shows)

after I posted this, I got to read your post above, it sure does sound like you watch fox news from the things you mention above.
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previous versions featured the cute little guns provisions, they have been removed and preventative measure put in place so it cannot (in theory) return. this was part of the wheeling and dealing to get a few republicans to vote for it, making it "bi-partisan"
 
AthlonJedi

AthlonJedi

Member
No, far from it, I have a mixed race child so I would watch just what you say before someone takes offense to it. Jackass.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
AthlonJedi said:
No, far from it, I have a mixed race child so I would watch just what you say before someone takes offense to it. Jackass.
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now youre just digging that racist hole deeper.

not reading every one of the dozen different versions of Obamacare, opposing The One's brilliant plans, and now "some of my best kids are partly black"!


yep. it's true, everybody is racist!

now that thats taken care of, cheezie wont have to infest this thread with his stupidity.

carry on.
 
throwdo

throwdo

Well-Known Member
thanks for all your replys , just concerend were this is going not one of obamas biggest fans
 
kinddiesel

kinddiesel

Well-Known Member
big question is health care going to sky rocket in price. or become more affordable. I think it will be 25 to 50 % more costly for the same quality plant we could of bought before the free health care but not free. bull shit. we should not be forced to have healthcare . total bull shit.
 
El Tiberon

El Tiberon

Active Member
kinddiesel said:
big question is health care going to sky rocket in price. or become more affordable. I think it will be 25 to 50 % more costly for the same quality plant we could of bought before the free health care but not free. bull shit. we should not be forced to have healthcare . total bull shit.
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explain free health care
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

Well-Known Member
kinddiesel said:
big question is health care going to sky rocket in price. or become more affordable. I think it will be 25 to 50 % more costly for the same quality plant we could of bought before the free health care but not free. bull shit. we should not be forced to have healthcare . total bull shit.
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Health Care is already astronomical in price.
Look at a itemized bill from the hospital or your doctor.
How the fuck do they justify these prices?

This is a perfect environment for socialist government and big pharmaceuticals to rule your life.
They all walk away with your money in their pocket.

and this is why those evil republicans are trying to put a stop to it by "shutting down the government".
 
El Tiberon

El Tiberon

Active Member
When I was strain hunting in Mexico my dentist charged me 300 pesos for a deep cleaning. 25 US dollars. Takes about an hour. HE went to NYU.

My dentist in Colombia charges me 60.000 COP for a deep cleaning. 31 US dollars. HE went to UPenn.

US costs? 400.00+

Are paying pretty women to suck off your dentist worth it?
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

Well-Known Member
I've read posts from people in the UK and other places that can't justify the price we pay here for simple procedures.
It's crazy.
Obamacare is happy and well paid when we get sick from eating crap foods while encouraging the use of tobacco and alcohol.
 
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