Greenpoint seeds!!

doniawon said:

First I've heard of trichs for insulation, have heard trichs for sunscreen theory for promoting uv..
Both seem worth a go. More the merrier!
I mix horts/lec would love a few plasmas to play with .

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I dont buy the sunscreen theory for a minute when it always seems the lowers on the colas are the frostiest.Why would the lowers be frostier if they are having to build trichs to protect themselves from the light.Ill tell ya cause its cooler under the canopy and lower temps promote trichs.Ive studied it for quite a while but it really comes down to genetics.Some plants will naturally be more frostier.If you want little frosty the snowman babies start with fire genetics.

I've run straight hps and ive ran one 400mh to one 1000hps and the combo helps some but since I've started using the 315 and 330 ceramics the trichs are a quite bit more noticeable, but the canopy level temps im sure have went down, so i can't say for sure if its the xtra UV from ceramics or the lower temp. But the ceramics sure help for one reason or another.

Chunky Stool said:

Try it.

It's kinda like fishermen who say they don't worry about scent contamination because they always catch fish, regardless.
I wonder how many fish they would catch if their bait didn't smell like cigarette smoke and gasoline...

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I have,Ive ran plants under CMH and COB and HPS which has 0 UV and saw no difference in trich formation.I think the reason people get more trichs with UV bulbs because the canopy is alot cooler.Want your girls to frost up quick like.Drop your lights off temp down to 65 and lights on 74 the last 10 days of flower.

boybelue said:

I've run straight hps and ive ran one 400mh to one 1000hps and the combo helps some but since I've started using the 315 and 330 ceramics the trichs are a quite more noticeable, but the canopy level temps im sure have went down, so i can't say for sure if its the xtra UV from ceramics or the lower temp. But the ceramics sure help for one reason or another.

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Its the lower temps,Less radiant heat.radiant heat on HPS kilols trichs.melts em right off the leaves.Ive run cmh next to HPS with managable temps and circulation and saw no difference.In a confined space with a warmer canopy im sure the HPS would fail at trich development.

Heisenbeans said:

I have,Ive ran plants under CMH and COB and HPS which has 0 UV and saw no difference in trich formation.I think the reason people get more trichs with UV bulbs because the canopy is alot cooler.Want your girls to frost up quick like.Drop your lights off temp down to 65 and lights on 74 the last 10 days of flower.

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Interesting.
I ran HPS only in a 5X5 and saw a definite increase in frost when I added lizard lights in all 4 corners.
There's no way it made the tent cooler.

But I am getting better at growing (slowly) so it's possible there are other factors in play.

Chunky Stool said:

Interesting.
I run HPS only in a 5X5 and saw a definite increase in frost when I added lizard lights in all 4 corners.
There's no way it made the tent cooler.

But I am getting better at growing (slowly) so it's possible there are other factors in play.

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Maybe your abilty to manipulate the air and realize you were cooking your plants lol and added fans and such along the way.

Temps may be more important than I thought for frost development because my new grow space is easier to keep cool than the tent and I've gotten much better results lately.

Then again, I might just be getting better at reading plants & responding to their needs.

Heisenbeans said:

Maybe your abilty to manipulate the air and realize you were cooking your plants lol and added fans and such along the way.

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Hmm... I did add fans around the same time, now that you mention it.
Put little desktop fans on the floor in all 4 corners so the air flowed in a circle around the perimeter.

Chunky Stool said:

Hmm... I did add fans around the same time, now that you mention it.
Put little desktop fans on the floor in all 4 corners so the air flowed in a circle around the perimeter.

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I have a video of cake a foot under the 1000 cmh and no trichs lol cause it's just to hot.in the cooler areas I got trichs for miles but right in the hottest areas leaves are smooth as can be loo.

Ive got a cookie that I noticed the lowers looked better so I like to put 3 to 4 feet between canopy, but at the same time other strains seem to like the xtra light or heat or deal with it better. I think we've all had em to close to the lights and seen them go funky. To much heat and you can oversaturate them with to much light that can be bad. Ive even noticed on my outdoor plants, the ones that come in later with cooler temps seem to be trichier.

Chunky Stool said:

Try it.

It's kinda like fishermen who say they don't worry about scent contamination because they always catch fish, regardless.
I wonder how many fish they would catch if their bait didn't smell like cigarette smoke and gasoline...

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I used to be big fisher! and my pops always said never play with bait anymore than you have too!

Heisenbeans said:

I have,Ive ran plants under CMH and COB and HPS which has 0 UV and saw no difference in trich formation.I think the reason people get more trichs with UV bulbs because the canopy is alot cooler.Want your girls to frost up quick like.Drop your lights off temp down to 65 and lights on 74 the last 10 days of flower.

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I've been running my hps for a while I have noticed a difference with cooler temps, I bought a 10k btu, ac with lights on I keep temps at 75ish sometimes 73, but light off I drop to about 65! I feel it's the best range!

Heisenbeans said:

I have a video of cake a foot under the 1000 cmh and no trichs lol cause it's just to hot.in the cooler areas I got trichs for miles but right in the hottest areas leaves are smooth as can be loo.

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If you could keep the canopy temps the same do you think one type light source would out perform others. I should say do you think UV would bring more trichs if canopy temps were equal.

I have heard things about ppl doing 24-48 hrs of darkness for better tric devolopment this makes me wonder if it bc of the lower temps! bc the lights are off!

Hung 1 of my Cowboy Cookies.. she reeks of garlic and some type of fruit in the background.

Greenthumbs256 said:

I used to be big fisher! and my pops always said never play with bait anymore than you have too!

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Scent always matters when fishing with bait.
I had alcohol wipes in my tackle box that I used to get foreign smells off my hands.
Using scented sunscreen is a big mistake and something many fishermen don't think about.

Chunky Stool said:

Scent always matters when fishing with bait.
I used to carry alcohol wipes in my tackle box that I used to get foreign smells off my hands.
Using scented sunscreen is a big mistake and something many fishermen don't think about.

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I'm tan as fuck lol I have never used sunscreen, my dad said we got some Indian in our blood lol!

AmericanGrower508 said:

Hung 1 of my Cowboy Cookies.. she reeks of garlic and some type of fruit in the background.

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something about these photos don't sit well with me, maybe I'm just drunk, no offense good job man! just saying something ain't right lol!

Greenthumbs256 said:

something about these photos don't sit well with me, maybe I'm just drunk, no offense good job man! just saying something ain't right lol!

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I kinda wondered why those fan leaves weren't hanging down, maybe cause there fresh cut and cold.

They need to do something about the POTM over there where non-contestants can vote and just have one running for it. I think they should have voter registration with certain restrictions or qualifications that way people can't cheat. Im just not sure giving contestants 3 votes in prelims will have them voting honestly, I mean seeing some of the ones people voted for might have a re-vegging clone from a flowering plant be a finalist! LMFAO