Greenpoint seeds!!

Sebud

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Actually both responses are correct. Its just a basic SAR response. Each element (light spectrum, temp, nutrition) effect different parts of the gland.

I've been diving into some microbiology studies to pass the time lately.
Mostly recently the jasmonate biosynthesis process in organic soil.
Good info for anyone interested in organics (or overcome with boredom, lol)
Or needing some sleep HAHA sorry couldn't resist:blsmoke:
 

NoWaistedSpace

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No, they discontinued it a long time ago. It used to be a popular strain, not sure why it disappeared so quickly. The pheno I had was top notch as far as quality and it was very fast in flower, 45-50 days every time and descent yields too.
I still have some, but a lot of my older stuff isn't labeled anymore. That shit rubs off or bleaches out over years and years. lol
 

thenotsoesoteric

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on the topic of pnw outdoor, i'm surprised more outdoor growers in the pnw don't do light dep. i have seen a bunch of videos and tutorials around for not that expensive.
I don't know why they don't grow strains from up north for outdoor. Back in Illinois we typically had till last week of sept or 1st of Oct and then the weather would turn so you had to get it done early. Great white north seeds has a lethal purple and Manitoba poison that were both great smoke and finished fast and big. 1 out performed the other but I can't remember which as it has been a long time.

The flavor of the day strains are just not bred for outdoors and usually perform poorly compared to those tried and true outdoor strains.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I still have some, but a lot of my older stuff isn't labeled anymore. That shit rubs off or bleaches out over years and years. lol
Aw man, I hate when labels or markings rub off on seed packs. Like "what the hell are these? Blueberry? Kush? FUCK!" lol or when I scribble names down to sloppy.

Man I wish I would have been into collecting seeds back then but I popped them bitches as so as I got them back then. Young and impatient as hell, lol, but I had some gems that I would like to have now ie like my 1st pack of blueberry from dutch passion in 2002.
 

whytewidow

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Hate to tell you this, but actually LEDs need higher run temps because they don't have IR in their spectrum. Otherwise you won't get the same perspiration rates and growth will be considerably slower.
I dont run hotter temps. Unless the plant needs it. But normally I run around 72-75 with Samsung leds. My growth isnt slowed any. I actually have to cut some back bc thry take over the veg tent. I'm sure theres other variables as well. That come into play. I've seen most other people running LEDs run higher temps tho.
 

boybelue

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I don't know why they don't grow strains from up north for outdoor. Back in Illinois we typically had till last week of sept or 1st of Oct and then the weather would turn so you had to get it done early. Great white north seeds has a lethal purple and Manitoba poison that were both great smoke and finished fast and big. 1 out performed the other but I can't remember which as it has been a long time.

The flavor of the day strains are just not bred for outdoors and usually perform poorly compared to those tried and true outdoor strains.
I believe I may have some Manitoba Poison I received as freebies, didnt really know anything about them. This is the first time I've heard anything about this strain. I never did any research just put em up and forgot em.
 

GrowRijt

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I grew four different strains outside this year and all of them were disappointing thanks to the lack of sunlight and cold temps.
Lost at least 6 zips to bud rot -- probably closer to 8.
Next year I'm going to try Vashon Early Bird.
Here is my outdoor plan for next year. I think this will be solid. I’m setting up a room with 14hrs 2 min of light. At my lat around 43° the sunset hits 14 hrs 2 min of light on Aug 6th ish. I figure I need a two week head start so I’ll set the clones in the room around July 18th. I’ll move all the outdoor plants in pots out on Aug 6th with two weeks of flower on em and syncing up exactly with outdoor light pattern and be done around Oct 1. Boom.
 

Amos Otis

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Here is my outdoor plan for next year. I think this will be solid. I’m setting up a room with 14hrs 2 min of light. At my lat around 43° the sunset hits 14 hrs 2 min of light on Aug 6th ish. I figure I need a two week head start so I’ll set the clones in the room around July 18th. I’ll move all the outdoor plants in pots out on Aug 6th with two weeks of flower on em and syncing up exactly with outdoor light pattern and be done around Oct 1. Boom.
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Bongsmoke420

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Aww damn came home for my lunch break, checked the girls over and one of the Texas butter is confused, don’t think it’s environmental, everything else is fine. it’s the one in the front right of the group shot, it’s the slower growing, mutant leaves, no frost yet when all the others are frosty.... disappointing but I can’t even think risking it, she is gonna have to go, might have to put her outside or something.... I guess 4 out of 6 ain’t bad F6E8F9C4-2606-4DE2-86D3-6D4EF1119616.jpeg

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Bakersfield

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Or you need to water more often.....

You do realize some of the best grow climates have very low humidity almost year round right...

VPD is just a way to maximize growth, your plant won't die from low humidity unless it's a seedling.

In colorado we have a monsoon season, followed by an extremely dry rest of the year. Great outdoor growing here, very low bud rot problems and strong sun make colorado outdoor fire.

I would rather dry than wet, try to grow outdoors in FL, bud rot city. Look how crap the outdoor is from the PNW...wet and cold..
Dont you guys get early frost in Colorado?
I imagine most fire outdoors, in Colorado, is actually grown in a greenhouse. I could be wrong though.
Not much real fire finishes in September.

Maybe @rikdabrick can answer this, but I've never heard that the weed grown in the Puna district of Hawaii is inferior to weed grown in the dryer parts. They get 150-200 inches of rain a year there and produce great weed.
 

Chunky Stool

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Aww damn came home for my lunch break, checked the girls over and one of the Texas butter is confused, don’t think it’s environmental, everything else is fine. it’s the one in the front right of the group shot, it’s the slower growing, mutant leaves, no frost yet when all the others are frosty.... disappointing but I can’t even think risking it, she is gonna have to go, might have to put her outside or something.... I guess 4 out of 6 ain’t bad View attachment 4225772

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My biggest Texas butter was so far behind the others when it came to frost, I tossed her in the compost bin.
It broke my heart -- she was a 9 footer! :cry:
 

Bongsmoke420

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My biggest Texas butter was so far behind the others when it came to frost, I tossed her in the compost bin.
It broke my heart -- she was a 9 footer! :cry:
I would of been a sad panda that day, one of my mates just suggested this could possibly be from the chem genetics, he had one on his Cali cannon, he said his was identical to that. I’ve plucked em all I’ll wait and see if anymore come up
 
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