Greenpoint seeds!!

First GPS grow Moondance..

whytewidow said:

I'm not argueing with you. Clones of plants are not 100% exact identical copies of the plant u cut it off of. And you can take cells and create other cells which then create an embryo and grow a child from it with matching dna. So yes you are wrong. There are quite a few test tube babies. My point was just give reference. The clone had the same genetic make up as the mother plant. But if you grow it out it won't look identical. Jus as making a human wouldn't be the exact same but would have the same genetic make up.

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I agree w the clone variance for sure.
I ran a SOG w 88 clones, Few diff strains. A lot of the diff clones of the same mother ended up finishing quite differently depending how much more/less light they got, water/feeding, pruning, etc..
That was mostly because its quite difficult to fully maintsin 88 clones lol
It was quite surprising though how much they varied in trich production, colouring, bud density.
W small clones a few days more in veg made a huge diff in yields too.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Dude, there is no arguing but I like how you try to put it on me. Humans can not now or ever clone the way plants do. If a piece of plant breaks off and falls to the ground and there is enough moisture it will sprout roots and grow a plant, humans will not. My point is human bodies and plant bodies do not act the same in their biological processes.

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Wtf are you talking about. No one is putting anything on anyone. But now you are changing what you previously posted. Now you adding other variables. Bc u were wrong to begin with. For Christ fuknsakes I said it was a reference. And if you get off the pot forums and read some actual news. Or went to college and got an education you would be able to provide a decent arguement. But you cant. Bc the post you posted is wrong end of story. No one said anything about cutting a fucking finger off throwing it on a wet ground and it growing another fucking human. Did they. No that was your uneducated ass. I have already made my point, maybe you shoukd do some research on human cell genome and cloning. Instead of just opening your mouth about something you have no idea what you are talking about. It is better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.. But you did the exact opposite

how aboot we take this "conversation" to PM and lets leave this thread to growing GPS gear.

2 confirmed TNT females in flower now. I really like the structure of the TNT. Mine have nice thick stalks and great branching. I'll throw some pics up soon.
My CnC were all males but I germed 4 more this morning. Bound to get a least one or two girls this round (hopefully)

Tomahawks and LVTK are chuggin right along too and should be ready for the bloom room in another week or so.

As far as the sexual variants in cannabis - I'm not touching this one because its right up there with "flushing" as far as "opinions" and anecdotal findings. There is far too much out dated misinformation, partly due to "bro science" and of course those that are misinterpreting scientific data.

Everyone chill, go burn one and have a good night

Tangerine_ said:

2 confirmed TNT females in flower now. I really like the structure of the TNT. Mine have nice thick stalks and great branching. I'll throw some pics up soon.
My CnC were all males but I germed 4 more this morning. Bound to get a least one or two girls this round (hopefully)

Tomahawks and LVTK are chuggin right along too and should be ready for the bloom room in another week or so.

As far as the sexual variants in cannabis - I'm not touching this one because its right up there with "flushing" as far as "opinions" and anecdotal findings. There is far too much out dated misinformation, partly due to "bro science" and of course those that are misinterpreting scientific data.

Everyone chill, go burn one and have a good night

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How many seeds did you get in the lvtk?

macsnax said:

How many seeds did you get in the lvtk?

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I think I got at least 8 and I believe they're sold as packs of 5 fems
Extra seeds are always a nice bonus

Tangerine_ said:

I think I got at least 8 and I believe they're sold as packs of 5 fems
Extra seeds are always a nice bonus

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Nice, I was curious because I had 7 in my triple nova puck. Cool pucks too, I had to open one because they looked so big for just a couple seeds. Gotta love bonus seeds.

I had read some where if you wanted higher chances of females to pop seeds without heat mats ?

Anyone ever experience anything like this?

Cold$moke said:

I had read some where if you wanted higher chances of females to pop seeds without heat mats ?

Anyone ever experience anything like this?

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Ill find out in a few weeks Ive got 30 started in a cold bathroom no heat mat. 98%germ lol
Here's five of the strains.
Left blue is black gold, left orange is copper, right orange is garlix, right purple is TD chem star and back middle purple is my Chuck of Cali's, sour d x TD, 91 chem 12.

kona gold said:

Funny thing.... strains back when I started growing NEVER hermaphrodited!!!
But strains were grown from seed, not clones, and were bred each generation you grew them.
Clone only breeding is seriously screwing up the cannabis gene pool!!
People need to stop breeding for popularity!!
Guys I talk to in the seed business, only want to work with the popular clones!!
Look at Greenpoint seeds!!
It's hit a male to every clone out in the market, and sell em!!
And to be ok, with herms even at the endof the cycle.....no good!!!
What if you running perpetual style?

Nothing personal @Gu, but that's my opinion.

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Sorry to disagree, but hermies are a natural characteristic of the cannabis plant. Some will do it earlier, but it's part of the normal cycle of the plant. All will hermie if left in flower long enough. It's called rodelization...look it up. There are connoisseurs and collectors that grow many of the rare strains, and of course the popular ones are going to be grown more....ease of growing, flavor, potency and decent yields...that's what people want. There are a lot of people breeding out there. That's one of the reasons I buy Greenpoint. I don't live in a legal state, and clones are hard to come by, so good genetics to throw into my little "breeding program" are always welcome.

whytewidow said:

Wtf are you talking about. No one is putting anything on anyone. But now you are changing what you previously posted. Now you adding other variables. Bc u were wrong to begin with. For Christ fuknsakes I said it was a reference. And if you get off the pot forums and read some actual news. Or went to college and got an education you would be able to provide a decent arguement. But you cant. Bc the post you posted is wrong end of story. No one said anything about cutting a fucking finger off throwing it on a wet ground and it growing another fucking human. Did they. No that was your uneducated ass. I have already made my point, maybe you shoukd do some research on human cell genome and cloning. Instead of just opening your mouth about something you have no idea what you are talking about. It is better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.. But you did the exact opposite

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You're reading comprehension is lacking bud. I gave an example of how a plant can naturally, on its own, clone itself. You're over here talking about cloning stem cells and growing ears on rats. That isn't new bro, lol. Still doesn't show the a human, on there own, can clone themselves.

And you're insulting my assumed intelligence by telling me I should take a biology course? GTFO Yeah I should have done that fucking years ago maybe back in college. Oh but wait I didn't go to college. Next you'll be telling about Punnett squares and Mendal? But I stupid, I only on pot forum.

If you want you can have the last word and insult me more.

The bigger 4 are peak's c99 the small two in the right row are cookies and chem the one on left is a louis og.

cindysid said:

Sorry to disagree, but hermies are a natural characteristic of the cannabis plant. Some will do it earlier, but it's part of the normal cycle of the plant. All will hermie if left in flower long enough. It's called rodelization...look it up. There are connoisseurs and collectors that grow many of the rare strains, and of course the popular ones are going to be grown more....ease of growing, flavor, potency and decent yields...that's what people want. There are a lot of people breeding out there. That's one of the reasons I buy Greenpoint. I don't live in a legal state, and clones are hard to come by, so good genetics to throw into my little "breeding program" are always welcome.

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Yup its not something that can be bred out. The best that can be done is breed to reduce the tendacy of it happening. It's part of the plants basic physiology.

thenotsoesoteric said:

You're reading comprehension is lacking bud. I gave an example of how a plant can naturally, on its own, clone itself. You're over here talking about cloning stem cells and growing ears on rats. That isn't new bro, lol. Still doesn't show the a human, on there own, can clone themselves.

And you're insulting my assumed intelligence by telling me I should take a biology course? GTFO Yeah I should have done that fucking years ago maybe back in college. Oh but wait I didn't go to college. Next you'll be telling about Punnett squares and Mendal? But I stupid, I only on pot forum.

If you want you can have the last word and insult me more.

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morgwar said:

Yup its not something that can be bred out. The best that can be done is breed to reduce the tendacy of it happening. It's part of the plants basic physiology.

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it's a magical plant. i truly believe that. it has to ability to survive in varying environments and harsh times. i respect that !!!!

Sour Wreck said:

it's a magical plant. i truly believe that. it has to ability to survive in varying environments and harsh times. i respect that !!!!

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One of the Hickock haze males that we culled has been uprooted and laying on the floor of my buddies 30 degree garage for the last few days and is still alive.
Amazing indeed

MrChocolateGrow said:

@Gu I LOLed hard, because that's where I found the info regarding environment and its effects on Male/Female Ratio.

@Chunky Stool Here you go. I took screen shots of the book and pages regarding Male/Female and environment. (Please remember, that there are other things that may effect Male/Female ratio such as... getting lucky, or the genetics involved. This post was meant to help everyone out with what they CAN control.)

I also started going pure organic until after 20-30 days after reading this, due to nutrients having an affect on the Male/Female ratio. I have to agree with what he says. After fitting the environment to these specifications, I've starting noticing a big increase in females of about 60-70% Female to Male ratio. Enjoy the read.


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I use to love Jorge, but I think he's still got some old hippy dippy ideas about the plant.
He was at the top of the pack, at one time, with his informal application of horticulture to a subject who's culture of people believed hanging plants upside down increased resin content in the dried flowers.
I think he's wrong on the environment and sexual expressions.
I do not believe the sex of a plant can change due to environmental circumstances.

Jorge Cervantes, Indoor Marijuana Horticulture, was the Holy Grail of Indoor Marijuana growing back in 1992, when I bought my first grow light in Seattle.
With guidance from my mentor, I was informed that Jorge was the man and Rosenthol was a poseur.
Seattle was the epicenter of indoor growing at the time, with about 10 indoor grow shops in the area. While there was about that many in the rest of the country.
Times were tense though, with the recent federal crackdown on marijuana seed retail, growing equipment and media, known as Operation Green Merchant.
You could tell friend from foe at the grow shop, because a few were snitches trying to get reduced sentences by turning in customers. While those on the level would toss you out of the store for mentioning a topic like "garden odor".
For a bit of history.
Washington, Oregon and Alaska were the 3 states that developed indoor marijuana cultivation in its infancy. Northern Lights, UW Hashplant, MTF, Big Bud and Blueberry originate here.
This was due to the fact that the early hippy cultivators that spread out from California, to these places, could not grow marijuana outdoors, especially the pre Soviet-Afghan invasion era cultivars. So they started using fluorescents, stadium lights, applying techniques such as cloning and hydroponics.

cindysid said:

Sorry to disagree, but hermies are a natural characteristic of the cannabis plant. Some will do it earlier, but it's part of the normal cycle of the plant. All will hermie if left in flower long enough. It's called rodelization...look it up. There are connoisseurs and collectors that grow many of the rare strains, and of course the popular ones are going to be grown more....ease of growing, flavor, potency and decent yields...that's what people want. There are a lot of people breeding out there. That's one of the reasons I buy Greenpoint. I don't live in a legal state, and clones are hard to come by, so good genetics to throw into my little "breeding program" are always welcome.

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Isnt there a difference between full blown trannys and late bloom nanners right ,with nanners being the rodelization

But full blown trannys are not welcome in my bathrooms or grows lol

*full Blown trannys ....... Lol

I really gotta stop lurking RIU when I am faded ...