Grow #3 Tang Dream & Kandy Kush 400W HPS/MH Grow Journal in Coco. Feedback needed!

DaBuzzard said:

Sorry, I missed that when I read your post. The Blue Mystic did me in!

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Lol don't feel stupid, I put that edit up after you commented since I didn't really make it clear xD
But damn your buds looked sweet, how long did you veg for? And how tall were they roughly?

CYN

CYNiCAL said:

Lol don't feel stupid, I put that edit up after you commented since I didn't really make it clear xD
But damn your buds looked sweet, how long did you veg for? And how tall were they roughly?

CYN

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I didn't really keep track of how long I vegged for, I usually go by height. As soon as they reach 18" I switch my lights to 12/12. If I had to guess on time in veg, maybe 6 weeks.

DaBuzzard said:

I didn't really keep track of how long I vegged for, I usually go by height. As soon as they reach 18" I switch my lights to 12/12. If I had to guess on time in veg, maybe 6 weeks.

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No problem, I'm probably going to veg for 5 weeks, hopefully It'll give me a good enough yeild for myself, thanks for the info though! +rep

This is my Kandy Kush on day 2. She has stretched a little but I'll bury her stem when she gets repotted..
Sorry for the shitty pictures

My fan leaves kinda look like the plant is showing signs it's hungry.. Seem to be loosing the green. I am considering pH'ing down to 5.9 and adding more nutes this time..I've not really fed them much so I hope this does it for her! Just don't wanna risk nute burn!

What you think? Nute burn or Deficiency? I've hardly fed them at all. about 1ml to 1.5L. less than 1/4. So I'm guessing deficiency.. I'll post some High res pics up now!

its not nute burn...yes drop ph to 5.8

i wouldn't up the dose yet .....just keep up with the feedings like every watering.... and it will get it use to the nutrients, you can up the dose in a couple more feedings at 1/4 strength...then go to 1/2 strength.

yes they are hungry...coco is a soilless medium so you need to feed sooner than in soil. peace

lime73 said:

its not nute burn...yes drop ph to 5.8

i wouldn't up the dose yet .....just keep up with the feedings like every watering.... and it will get it use to the nutrients, you can up the dose in a couple more feedings at 1/4 strength...then go to 1/2 strength.

yes they are hungry...coco is a soilless medium so you need to feed sooner than in soil. peace

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I just watered with nutes, 1.8ml to 1.5l. Works out just over 1ml to the liter. The water was at ph 5.8. Run off came out at 6.2. I'll drop the ph slowly, so the plant doesn't have much to get used to..

ph 5.8 in...... coming out 6.2 is fine...right on the money!...the shit coming out is just piss anyways...its what goes in thats important!

Hey just updating some pictures for day 20.. I've LST'd her
Some pictures before LST...



and then after..

awesome job on the topping/lst bro! she's going to be a beast!
now that i see the new pics.... i'd say up the dose to 1/2 next feeding

Thanks Lime!

I got my Inline fan and Cooltube today.. Honestly them Fan's are so fucking loud! I actually won't be able to keep it on, you can hear it outside the house, I have just thrown a cooltube in but it's not doing me any favours with the 400W. I will need the Inline fan, I just spent all the money I had on that bastard

I might actually have to stick with 150W

I might also try the HPS since I did hear it runs much cooler than a MH..

Very pissed off, wasted a lot of money and time and effort.

Will update pictures soon..

Some pictures after the LST.. day 21.. Plant doesn't look too healthy anymore, alot more yellow/brown nute burn looking like symptoms, leaves of the top two nodes are scrawny and they look twisted, probably due to the lst.. But compared to yesterdays pictures, she's gone alot more bushy which seems good! anyway, tell me what you think.
Btw, the Kandy kush is just not growing... god knows why

yes she is starting to show signs of nitrogen/mag deficiency...up dose asap.... did you feed 1/2 dose yet ?

Nope.. I just fed the day I posted and stated it.. I still haven't watered since then sine my soil does seem pretty moist.. But I'll make a mix now and feed her with 1/2 dose. From using the Canna Calc. It doesn't make much sense..
It states for a 1.5l watering use 4.6ml of Canna A, 4.6ml of Canna B for weeks 0 - 3.
However for 1L watering it says use 2.3ml of Canna A and 2.3ml Canna B for weeks 0 - 3.
The ratio's don't add up. I was presuming a glitch on the system, possibly decimal points are rounded up so it gives me figures for 2L watering.. So I'll do my own math, works out as using 3.4ml per 1.5L. I use 1.5L since my bottles that I store water in are 1.5L.

Hope that was easy enough to understand.. But my main question is, Previously I dosed at 1.7:1500 should I up to the corrected ratio I got from Canna? 3.4:1500

i would assume 1.o liter is for 1.5L... the 1/2 ratio works at that dose not 1 liter?

whatever you are feeding at last feeding is not enough...just need to keep up feedings...and upping dose "slowly" until you see her start to green up again

i would go with a 2.5ml/1500ml since 1.7 is not showing any improvement and then after a couple of feeds go to 3.4

I just bumped it up to 3ml/1500ml and saw this post after xDD oh well, I've not smoked for nearly one month! I need a spliff to stop me getting so annoyed about yesterday haha

My plant rather looks like it's suffering from Nute burn.. The blades and tips are all going yellow/brown.. =/

EDIT: Just being a dick, I had a look at the problems plants suffer from deficiency, I know it's not been long since I fed, hopefully I'll see a good reaction tomorrow. My plant seems to be suffering from multiple deficiencies, I will post updates tomorrow and hopefully something good to see! Sorry

zibra said:

Are you just using Canna A&B? If you are u need to feed ur babies some cannazym and rhizotonic as well.
Here's some tips,
The perfect ph for coco is 5.8
Canna A & B 2ml per gallon
Cannazym 5ml
Rhizotonic 4ml
your total ppm should be around 350-400
temprature 75-80 degrees and humidity around 60%
again take a look at my thread Tangirne Dream from seed to harve, I used Cannna products and I got great results.
goodluck my brotha

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Thanks Zibra, I did notice I needed all of that when using the Calc on the Canna site. Atm, I'm just trying to return some of my items I recently bought since I can't use them so I can get some money together for the Cannazym and Rhizotonic. I'm also looking to get some PK13/14 for flowering? Would you say it's any good??

Thanks brother!