GrowLab 80 - G13 Pineapple Express ... [200w T5 veg / 400w HPS flower]

chb444220

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ahhhhh.. i seeee i seeee. well sumnthin u may wanna try.. the very last week of flowering... stick them under the floros.. it will help with the frost. and leavin the plant in the darkness for 2-3 days does actually increase trich production as well.. i wasnt always sure about that.. but read about it in a recent issue of hightimes.. =)

good luck man. those plants are lookin great!!!
 

C.Indica

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ahhhhh.. i seeee i seeee. well sumnthin u may wanna try.. the very last week of flowering... stick them under the floros.. it will help with the frost. and leavin the plant in the darkness for 2-3 days does actually increase trich production as well.. i wasnt always sure about that.. but read about it in a recent issue of hightimes.. =)

good luck man. those plants are lookin great!!!
Thanks for the tip,
I'll stick mine under the fluoro for the last several days. Maybe some dark, not so sure on that one.


One thing though,
Purely curious;
How are you sure this High Times article is legit?
and not some High Times BS.
I really, really, don't like that magazine.
I've picked up more information on how to grow weed in one thread on RIU.
Just seems like anadvertising schtick.
(The magazine in general, not the dark period info)

I'm not trying to be a dick,I'm honestly interested./
Thanks
 

chb444220

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Thanks for the tip,
I'll stick mine under the fluoro for the last several days. Maybe some dark, not so sure on that one.


One thing though,
Purely curious;
How are you sure this High Times article is legit?
and not some High Times BS.
I really, really, don't like that magazine.
I've picked up more information on how to grow weed in one thread on RIU.
Just seems like anadvertising schtick.
(The magazine in general, not the dark period info)

I'm not trying to be a dick,I'm honestly interested./
Thanks
na i kno ur not tryna be a dick. theres honestly no way to be sure the info from high times is legit.. but i have heard several growers doing this and having good results.. and reading it in the hightimes mag kinda re-assured me there might be something to it.. its the stress from the plants going from a 12-12 light regiment... to getting no light at all.. sum people will even bend the plant back and forth to create a little added stress.. which in return creates more resin glands.

if i had only seen this info in the hightimes magazine i would most likely 2nd guess it. but ive seen plenty of people talk about this. and heyy.. its only an extra 2-3 days... its not gonna hurt your plant to try it. i have my MOD sitting in darkness right now. =)
 

Sr. Verde

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ahhhhh.. i seeee i seeee. well sumnthin u may wanna try.. the very last week of flowering... stick them under the floros.. it will help with the frost. and leavin the plant in the darkness for 2-3 days does actually increase trich production as well.. i wasnt always sure about that.. but read about it in a recent issue of hightimes.. =)

good luck man. those plants are lookin great!!!
I don't really want to down grade my light from 400w HPS to 200w floro when the only difference is the light spectrum.. Thats going from 55,000 lumens to 16,000. Using that logic, you might as well switch out to a 400w MH at the end, which again doesn't really make a lot of sense to me, considering HPS has been proven to be the best for flower..

MH will grow lots of foliage and branching, which is why it's good for veg

HPS will grow the branches thicker, the flowers better, and will grow more resin..

I've seen grows where it's either HPS from the start to finish, or MH from the start to finish... They never get dank dank flowers, it's either lanky and fluffy (all HPS) or tiny low yielding (all blue spectrum light). Now using both spectrums, on the same area I have seen people produce some very impressive nuggets.. This is what some commercial growers do, throw in a 600w MH, in between two 1000w HPS.. But for my needs I don't have room for extra lights, and can only run one system at a time, so I'll stick to 400w HPS throughout flowering :).

So you must have FIMED am I correct?
Nope, topped, above first true node.. Go back to page 1 on this thread, I'm pretty sure I laid everything out and posted pictures ;).

have you ever given them too much kelp or can you?
It's organic, and the NPK is 0.2-0-0.3, which means it will not burn your crop if you use too much. Now this doesn't mean that your soil would totally suck, if you added way too much of this stuff. The label says 5mL is the max feed, sometimes I feed 6 or 7mL if I feel it, but it is a thick, thick syrupy kelp. Highly concentrated, you don't really need a lot. You can definitely smell it when you use it, lingering in the grow tent, once the plant uses up the water in the pot the smell goes away. It's a good smell though :-P, like the beach.

na i kno ur not tryna be a dick. theres honestly no way to be sure the info from high times is legit.. but i have heard several growers doing this and having good results.. and reading it in the hightimes mag kinda re-assured me there might be something to it.. its the stress from the plants going from a 12-12 light regiment... to getting no light at all.. sum people will even bend the plant back and forth to create a little added stress.. which in return creates more resin glands.

if i had only seen this info in the hightimes magazine i would most likely 2nd guess it. but ive seen plenty of people talk about this. and heyy.. its only an extra 2-3 days... its not gonna hurt your plant to try it. i have my MOD sitting in darkness right now. =)
Supposedly, during lights on the idea is that lights degrade THC, so when the lights go off the plant produces more resin for the morning, then we chop before the 'morning' comes? Eh, I dig the idea, but I think that it would be impossible to change the resin or THC levels enough to notice, simply by not shining light on your plants for a few days. I feel like the resin would come and stay with the 2 months of flowering/growing prior to shutting the lights off..

This is what Uncle Ben says, and I tend to lean on his side of the argument for most things - as he comes at it from an old school gardener standpoint.

Some say this, some say that. Just because someone says something that is then repeated on the internet does not make it true.

Lab studies done by the U. of Miss. published by Mel Frank shows that THC levels are increased by lower RH and temps during flowering, and harvesting during a plant's night cycle. Can you tell any difference by smoking, I doubt it. Only a lab test with a control group will verify this. Anything other than a lab test is merely conjecture, speculation.

Since its photosynthesis that produces a plant's flowers, with all the materials that go along with that plant part, why would you want to do exactly the opposite of what's natural regarding a 0/24?

Treat the plant like normal maintaining healthy leaves until the end for the best results. I doubt if giving a plant oddball dark periods will do anything other than please the grower who wants to believe in them. It's phytochrome levels and photosynthesis that drives flowering, and once you hit the magical 12/12, it's a done deal.

UB

From this thread https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/294222-double-harvests-plants-darkness-last.html



I do give my plants a few hours of dark before I chop them, but I just had to point the other side of the argument out for those thinking of doing 3 days of dark expecting to increase potency to a discernible level.. :-P
 

Sr. Verde

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yeah man you got a tidy little setup there, lovin it m8 hope shes a good yielder
Thanks! It gets more tidy each grow, important to keep your enviornment clean and uncluttered :).

& yes the Pineapple Express is supposed to be a great yielder, and still be very strong.. I'm excited to see how many flowers we can squeeze in there. :D
 

Pipe Dream

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Man your PE is gonna be huge! Mine was about half that size when I flowered. Has some nice colas now at 7.5 weeks. I think it got burned by light a lil, but your pulling some amazing yeilds considering your watts used. I just threw a revegged clone of it in flower to get hit with c99 pollen, should be good. Subbed :mrgreen:
 

Sr. Verde

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Hey do you think I should go with 3 gal pots or 5 gal pots, im going to be doing scrog in a 3x3 space
Well I'm using 5 gallon pots, in a 2'7"x2'7" space.. It's my first time using 5 gallons, but I really like them so far. I used to use 2.5 gallon pots, and they worked well, but as the roots grew more and more into flower, it was clear the pot was slightly smaller than I would like. I'm really digging all the extra space the roots have to go in this 5 gal pot so far..

So in the end, I'd say your call. Only way to know what works best for you is to try them both yourself! But don't fear the 5 gal!

Man your PE is gonna be huge! Mine was about half that size when I flowered. Has some nice colas now at 7.5 weeks. I think it got burned by light a lil, but your pulling some amazing yeilds considering your watts used. I just threw a revegged clone of it in flower to get hit with c99 pollen, should be good. Subbed :mrgreen:
Psh, right! Glad someone noticed! The last plants I flowered were about half the size, at veg, and were 2.5ft by the end of flower. These plants will be monstrous! * i hope* :)

In an hour I'm taking out the floros, and dropping the HPS in.. woohoo!
 

Sr. Verde

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WOW the HPS is bright! Pics tomorrow, the ducting is pushing the sides out.. I underestimated this light! :lol:

hilarity and girthty nuggets shall ensue..
 

Californicater

Active Member
Now using both spectrums, on the same area I have seen people produce some very impressive nuggets.. This is what some commercial growers do, throw in a 600w MH, in between two 1000w HPS.. But for my needs I don't have room for extra lights, and can only run one system at a time, so I'll stick to 400w HPS throughout flowering :).
I was thinking of adding some 2ft T5 to my next flower, but just to add blue spectrum, not for main source of lumens, will still run 2x 600hps.
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This light can be hung horizontally, or mounted horz/vert on a wall. I am going to put them on the back wall of my closet thinking it will be advantages by adding blue spectrum as stated, but it will also add extra light to the lower levels of my plants that are normally shaded from the overhead light, hopefully adding some mass to what is normally popcorn. Also, it is only $25 at my lhs so it is a cheap experiment, and if it doesn't work my veg area will just grow larger. They can be daisy chained so I won't be adding loads of wires to run around the canopy too.
 
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