Guerrilla Diesel Ryder in South Carolina (and a few Automatic Blueberry)

Hello...thanks for stopping by!

Well I thought I'd share a guerrilla-style outdoor grow of Diesel Ryder (Joint Doctor/Lowryder Seeds) seeds, along with a few Automatic Blueberry (Lowlife Seeds).

From 5 seeds last year, I was able to breed with 2 very decent looking Diesel Ryder parents, and ended up with hundreds of quality seeds.

If you click on my profile name, and look back at my past posts, you'll see what I ended up with last year when growing out the 5 original Diesel Ryder seeds I got from Attitude (although I never updated any harvest pics...mostly because it was just one big seeded mess......which I wanted).

It smelled just fantastically fruity though...lots of potential with some patience.



As of right now, here are the total plants out there:


Diesel Ryder: 33

a. 7 in 2-liter plastic bottles
b. 15 in 2.5 gallon pots
c. 11 in 5 gallon buckets

Automatic Blueberry: 8


a. 4 in 5-gallon buckets
b. 4 in 2-liter plastic bottles


Medium: Peat Moss, store-bought garden soil, Organic Humus with Manure, etc

Fertilizer: 1/4 Teaspoon per gallon of Fox Farm's Tiger Bloom (started today), Dolomite Garden Lime

Location: South Carolina, guerrilla style-location, south-facing Sun, surrounded by tall briars and
painful natural plants in a hard-to-reach valley, very isolated with all day sunlight

Water: Regular house-water, painfully packed in, and left to sit in a 5-gallon bucket so any added
chlorine evaporates...usually 5-gallons each trip I go out there

Seed Germination/Date Planted: May 8th-10th

Projected Harvest Window: Middle/End of July


Here are some pics to demonstrate the plants development in the last few days:

Diesel Ryder:


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1. The closeness of the buckets
2. That Tiger Bloom is only 80% organic and can easily burn young plants
3. The soil isn't the online standard of Fox Farm/PRO-Mix...despite that, my mix
will work just fine for this project
4. That the Querkle's are showing obvious signs of Nitrogen deficiency. Those
Querkle have been super pollinated over several weeks for seeds (part of a
Spring Grow), and have a few weeks left in flowering before harvest. Also the
soil used for those Querkle buckets was just plain garden soil, no amendments
5. That the clear plastic soda bottles let in light, and this is bad for roots
6. That I'll need to water more frequently because the buckets/pots/bottles dry
out quickly when it's warm
7. That the orange in the buckets could show from helicopters/planes above

I'll stay the course, and document this grow through harvest (if all goes well), so this won't be one of a thousand grows started, but never finished.

I won't finish this thread until you see some Diesel Ryder curing in glass jars.

Thanks for taking a look...happy growin'!

I've been contemplating transferring the 4 Auto Blueberry (in the 2-liter soda bottles) into a few larger 5-gallon buckets/2.5 gallon pots that I have 'empty', but the Auto Blueberry is VERY sensitive to transfer shock, no matter how careful you are. So I dunno...still on the back-burner.

Transferring slows everything down, and retards overall growth permanently (most especially with Lowlife's Auto Blueberry).

That's similar to DJ Short's original Blueberry, which is the mother parent in this cross (Lowryder #1 father), so I might just ride it out with the 2-liter bottles.

I'll probably breed some combination of those soda-bottle Auto Blueberry, if anything, because all 4 look great so far and would be 'easy' to breed....although I still have 300+ Auto Blueberry seeds from last year's breeding.

The Auto Blueberry strain is one of the least stable cannabis strains I've ever worked with...lots of pheno's.

I've had plants that don't get any bigger than a few inches tall, to others that are over 1 1/2 feet tall.

Would be nice to lock down some nice looking phenotype-characteristics, but I think it would take growing out several dozen/hundred of these plants to find traits that would be desirable.



I also have some Fox Farm Open Sesame (5-45-19) that I'm not sure what to do with.

It's super high in Phosphorus, and have never used it before, so I'm not sure what to expect of it.

It does have a nice amount of Potassium and enough Nitrogen to help keep things healthy
and green.

Probably give it a whirl during next week's feeding.

You're supposed to use it right away when flowering starts/just before flowering starts, and these Diesel Ryder & Auto Blueberry should be flowering any day now...they look close.

I'll update with more pics tomorrow afternoon.

Looking good my friend. I'll be watching this one, maybe i can learn a thing or two for my first outdoor guerilla grow im doing.

LowlifesMA said:

Looking good my friend. I'll be watching this one, maybe i can learn a thing or two for my first outdoor guerilla grow im doing.

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Ha, well glad to have ya along for the ride MA! Still learning a lot about these auto strains myself...always seems to be a surprise around every corner with them...haha.

The biggest reason I feel good about the possibilities for this grow is the time of the year. The UV-B Ultraviolet light is strongest June 22nd, and I'm hoping with the stronger UV-B for these buds, that they'll produce more THC in response to it.

Ideally, they say you should flower in the early summer, and harvest late summer, to take advantage of the strong UV-B Ultraviolet light during mid-summer...but almost all cannabis flowers in late September or later, when UV-B is much weaker, so early flowering to take advantage of this UV-B light isn't possible outdoors (without covering the plants to force flowering).

Auto-flowering strains have received a LOT of negative and unwarranted criticism online, for a lot of reasons, but I want to prove (at least to myself) that you can grow potent and flavorful marijuana with auto strains.

you're a brave person being in sc haha definitely curious to how it goes!

sc9876 said:

you're a brave person being in sc haha definitely curious to how it goes!

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Anyone that grows marijuana outdoors is a brave person, no matter if you're in California or South Carolina.

Today I discovered a few female and male Diesel Ryder. So Far, 6 Females are showing early sex, and about 6 Males.

The rest, including the 8 Auto Blueberry, are still unsexed. The Auto Blueberry are growing really slow, although again that is a trait of Blueberry and how I remember them growing last year as well. They take a little longer overall to finish...I think it's around 10 weeks or more.

I've already identified both the female and male Diesel Ryder that I think I'll be breeding with. Fast flowering plants with nice branching and aggressive growth.

It's impossible to say at this point which of these females would be the most potent/flavorful, but I like to identify the earliest flowering females, and then pick and choose from that group which I will breed with. Same with the male. Only non-lanky, densely-packed flower-clusters in flowering males, and with the Auto Blueberry, only those males who show blue-balls.

Yep, you heard right. The Auto Blueberry males can exhibit pollen sacks which are striped blue. It's very vivid.

An attractive breeding characteristic, because this is DJ Short's Blueberry trait showing itself, which could mean a more Blueberry indica, rather than a Lowryder Ruderalis phenotype.

Happy to see the plants were no worse for wear after their first feeding of Fox Farm's Tiger Bloom last week.

I watered them all 5-gallons total, mixed with half-a-capful of Tiger Bloom during this trip.

I should mention that all the soils are properly limed to reduce the very acidic nature of both the Tiger Bloom and all the peat moss, which make up 40-50% of the soil mix.

Next watering, I'm going to dissolve several Tablespoons of dolomite lime in my 5-gallons of water to help the pH out a bit. So far, the plants aren't showing any signs of nute or pH burn.

Finally, I added more soil to every container to help reduce water-evaporation, and to give the roots a cooler environment to move around and grow in.

Here are some pics:


Plot Overview:





Diesel Ryder:





2 Female Diesel Ryder



4 Female Diesel Ryder, 1 Male




Automatic Blueberry:





Flowering Querkle

Loaded with seeds, although a lotta frosty lookin' bud/leaves. The male I used to breed this females had purple pollen sacks...it was just pure purple, with nice denseness. These girls are gonna make some nice Bubble Hash outta the trim and leaves, and there'll be some crunchy buds to smoke when it's all said and done too.

Won't be much, but I'll be happy with whatever I get...really just want those tiger-striped Querkle seeds from the crossing I did! Those F2 seeds are gonna be sick when they get into the ground!

Wish I would have put them outdoors sooner to veg...they just didn't grow very big and flowered really slow.

The smell is so strong though. Sour grape candy...just amazing. Love Querkle...next to Jack The Ripper, one of my favorite strains overall.

The Querkle in the middle has yet to flower (maybe a Sativa dominant female)

Probably another 2-3 weeks, and I'll pull the two on the right and left:

Went out to check on things today. One of the Diesel Ryder buckets in the back row tipped over, and the plant was pretty beat up and is LST'd now, but I think it'll pull through just fine. Probably will be shocked for a few days I'm guessing.

Well here is the Female count:

Diesel Ryder - 13
Automatic Blueberry - 2

Here is the Unsexed count:

Unknown Sex Blueberry - 2
Unknown Sex Diesel Ryder - 6

I destroyed 6 Diesel Ryder males, and 1 Automatic Blueberry male, which were all either lanky, smaller, or just not breed-worthy.

I saved the very best Diesel Ryder male, and moved it into a wooded ravine, far away. This redistributed male Diesel Ryder won't get nearly as much light in such a shaded place, but it'll get enough to produce a ton of pollen sacks. I've done it this way for years, and it's worked great every time. Knock on wood.

3 or 4 of the Auto Blueberry males still need a week or so to develop.

By next week I'll pick the best Auto Blueberry male among them, and move it to where I have the Diesel Ryder male, where both males will develop over the next few weeks, until the female Diesel Ryder and Auto Blueberry I choose are ready to breed with.

Here's a picture showing who everyone is. The plants have noticeably grown in the last few days (lots of rain and nutes!), so they're bigger than in this picture (which is from June 3rd...didn't take pics today), but this diagram will give everyone an idea of what I'm working with so far:




I moved the 3 soda-bottle Diesel Ryder's in the front row into the blue tote, as they're getting bigger, but are still prone to bug/animal attacks. A little more protection in the blue tote.

The plants have received some rain in the last few days, so the soil was still moist, but I watered them anyway (just plain water...no nutes), as I won't get back out there until the weekend probably. I also left a few gallons of backup water as well.

Water is heavy...around 38 pounds for 5 gallons if I remember right. It's the life-blood though...the more water, the bigger the plants...especially in guerrilla grows using containers/buckets which dry out fast.

So I'll keep haulin'.

Pretty happy so far with 15 females, and with 8 more chances for even more females when the unsexed plants show themselves, I'm doing pretty alright with the female/male ratios.

I'll put up a picture update this weekend, which should provide quite a bit of noticeable progress since the June 3rd update.

Subbed...nice grow for guerrilla..watching this one till the end..

Went out and watered the plants, dissolving some dolomite lime and Fox Farm's 'Open Seaseme' (1/4 teaspoon per gallon).

Plants look great.

I found another Diesel Ryder female, and realized that I only have 1 female Automatic Blueberry so here are the totals:

Diesel Ryder females = 14
Auto Blueberry females = 1

All the Auto Blueberry were male except one that is still unidentified, and the one female. That's kinda crappy.

I moved the best Auto Blueberry male to where I have the Diesel Ryder male developing (in a deep ravine a long way away), and destroyed the rest of the male Auto Blueberry that didn't make the cut.

Still have almost 10 Diesel Ryder that have yet to be identified, 4 that will show in the next week or so.

I'll do that picture update sometime this weekend. Things look a lot different.

Perlite would of been a good edition to the soil. It reflects light to the plants undergrowth, promotes drainage, hold nutrients, holds water, and it holds air.

Besides that your plants look great!

beginner.legal.growop said:

Perlite would of been a good edition to the soil. It reflects light to the plants undergrowth, promotes drainage, hold nutrients, holds water, and it holds air.

Besides that your plants look great!

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I dunno about reflecting light up into the plant...lol...but I agree, Perlite is a great addition to any soil mix.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find perlite in bulk amounts, and I wasn't about to spend $4-5 for 8 quart-bags...not cost effective.

The peat moss I have breaks up the soil, so it's not very dense at all; fluffy and holds water well.

Thanks for stopping by B.L.G.!

Really pleased with the progress so far.

Diesel Ryder females: 16
Unsexed Diesel Ryder: 5
Automatic Blueberry females: 2
Querkle females: 2

Just amazing to watch these Diesel Ryder grow this year. This years F1's are really expressing uniform growth...lots of hybrid vigor!

Flowering is sporadic on some...just a few pistils...but they've come a long way since the last picture update.

So the only males I still have growing are the Auto Blueberry male and Diesel Ryder male, located in a separate plot far, far away.

With 16 Diesel Ryder females, and 2 Auto Blueberry females, I'll have a lot of opportunity to select a decent female(s) to breed with.

The Auto Blueberry aren't growing too tall, staying true to their Blueberry and Lowryder #1 parents.
The two females have really wide, Indica-like leaves, which is nice to see. I've been growing so many hybrids and Sativa's for so many years, haven't had the opportunity to grow many Indicas.

The two Querkle smell absolutely fantastic, and there are times that I wish I wouldn't have pollinated both of them.

But I think to the future, and just how dank looking the male I used to breed them was (had THC on the leaves, purple pollen-sacks), and know future F2 generations will be absolutely fantastic. It's all about selecting the phenotype characteristics that make you happy.

I'll harvest the Querkles in 2-3 weeks, to take advantage, as much as possible, of the extreme UVB (Ultraviolet) light the sun puts out between now and June 22nd.

Here are some pics.


Plot Overview:




Diesel Ryder:






Automatic Blueberry:

Auto Blueberry Female #1



Auto Blueberry Female #2


Querkle:


Querkle Mom #1



Querkle Mom #2




The Querkle don't look very meaty for being in their 7th week of flowering, but that has a lot to do with when they were planted (and no nutes/poor soil).

They were planted from seed March 10th. It took them 6 weeks of growing vegetatively for them to begin flowering, and by the time both males and females were developing their reproductive tissues, the sunlight everyday was at 14 sun/10 dark.

I was able to pollinate them with my select Querkle male that exhibited all the traits I find attractive, but again, the sunlight per day is over 14 hours, so any flowering at this point has virtually stopped...so the plants won't get much bigger.

Again, this is fine. It'll be some great personal smoke, plus I achieved my original goal of breeding quality male/female phenotypes for lots of seed.

I'll do another picture update sometime next weekend. I figure a week between picture updates would be enough to show some visible growth and development.

Well I've moved things around quite a bit, to give the plants better access to the sun's trajectory in the sky this time of the year. Half the plants weren't getting adequate light in the early morning hours, so I reconfigured the pot/buckets, and now all the plants get that early morning sun they were missing the last few weeks.

The plant arrangement is better for stealth too, because they're more spaced out, and look similar to the surrounding briars and tall weeds.

All plants are female (18 Diesel Ryder, 2 Automatic Blueberry, 2 Querkle)!

Pretty happy with that.

They’re also all very healthy, green, no deficiencies or pH problems that I can see on the leaves. I think I can step up the Fox Farm feeding. Right now, ¼ teaspoon per gallon of Tiger Bloom, ¼ teaspoon Fox Farms Open Sesame, + a few teaspoons of dolomite lime.

I’ll probably go up to ½ teaspoon of Tiger Bloom for a few more weeks, same ¼ teaspoon for Open Sesame. Don’t want any pH/nute burn problems. No leaf curling so far.

Some insect has eaten the Auto Blueberry females up a bit, so the bottom leaves look like hell, but overall healthy as can be expected.

I destroyed the two males (1 Auto Blueberry, 1 Diesel Ryder), because they weren't performing like the males I thought they were when I first choose and isolated them in a separate plot.

The Auto Blueberry male was still slowly forming his pollen sacks, and the Diesel Ryder grew to be very lanky (partially due to it's lack of direct sunlight in its new location) and sparsely producing pollen sacks here and there. None of these traits (and other traits I noticed) on these males was attractive for future generations, so even though I had 18 Diesel Ryder females to choose from for breeding, I decided it wasn't worth breeding bad male genetics together with superior female genetics.

I still have hundreds of other Diesel Ryder seeds from previous grows (F1’s), so I'll give it another run in a few more months, and plant 100+ more. I feel pretty confident that through growing out hundreds of examples of Diesel Ryder, I'll find both a male and female from that group that will better represent the phenotype characteristics I'm interested in breeding into a finished Diesel Ryder seed collection.

Let me tell you though, the female Diesel Ryder I was gonna breed with is pretty sweet. Multiple branches, with already nice and thick bud sites forming, she showed her sex early on, and has huge healthy leaves.

All the Diesel Ryder smell awesome already: a rich coffee like smell now...faintly smelling like Diesel. But wow, is that coffee smell rich and tasty already. I can believe that these would really smell to high hell if you had them growing indoors.

Of the 18 Diesel Ryder females, 3-4 are going to be done before the rest. Just a bit thicker bud sites, and overall height is larger than the rest, with again tremendous branching.

These F1 seeds/now plants are all a spitting image of the original mother. Really pleased to see such uniform growth from the Diesel Ryders. They'll be in my collection for years to come, I can already tell.

The Auto Blueberry, well, are finally catching up. They're much smaller plants, although branching out nicely now for the flowering stretch. Big fat Indica leaves. They're flowering pretty slowly, but they're coming along.

I'm not a fan overall of this strain's growth characteristics, especially compared to the Diesel Ryder. The male/female ratio was just horrible (2 females out of 10+ sowed), and the overall development is very slow (very DJ Short Blueberry slow).

I see a few vendors online (Castle Seedbank for one) that have pulled all of their Lowlife products for sale, and left a note explaining why on their website. I’ve noticed that Attitude’s Lowlife Seeds have been ‘Out of Stock’ for a long while now.

That's disappointing to see in a seed company, because I had a lot of hope for these Auto Blueberry when I originally purchased them.

Maybe the Joint Doctor was speaking about companies like Lowlife when explaining the heritage of Diesel Ryder in the official online description of the seeds.

Joint Doctor:

“Unlike most other Lowryder hybrids created by amateurs, in the guise of new seed companies, this strain (Diesel Ryder) has been worked on by the Joint Doctor and mastered over the course of some years to ensure the perfect hybrid that maintains the excellent taste and effect of NYC Diesel whilst taking the auto-flowering genetics.”

Who knows, maybe the resulting non-pollinated Auto Blueberry mothers will turn out some nice dope. For this strains sake in my collections, I hope so.

The Querkle I'll harvest in a week or so. I’ve been just giving her water, nothing else for a few weeks, and will flush both girls next week. There’s not much bud on either of the two, but there’s some, and the leaves are very sugary as well, which will make for some fine Querkle Bubble Hash…can’t wait, it’s such a dark, black hash.

This is conservatively the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] week of flowering/sexing for the Querkle, and from poking around a bit, the seeds appear to be close to done.

Here are the pics:

Plot Overview:




Diesel Ryder:









Auto Blueberry:




Plants Blending In With Surroundings:




Back of Plot:





I'll do another picture update next weekend. They should beef up a bit, and really start showing their buds with the next round of pictures.

I have a video I shot too, that I might upload on here as well. Sometimes a video makes things a little easier to see.

Here's an 8-minute video of the plot. Average quality at best, but it gives you a better scope of how things are laid out.

Also, sorry about the weird spacing in the posts, but it's beyond my control. RIU has some ad for 'Wicked Defender' that's placed on the right side, which screws up the margins.

Maybe this will fix itself with time, but it makes viewing that last post a little difficult...too much scrolling.

Anyway, here's that video:

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There still appears to be some weird margin/spacing issue with this thread. It seems like the last message posted always has some weird margin issues (due to that 'Wicked Defender' ad RIU is slamming everywhere).

I understand that RIU needs to generate ad revenue to keep this site up and running, but surely there's a way to design a banner-ad that doesn't completely rearrange and muddle people's posts?

Nice grow man, ill keep my eyes open to see the outcome.

nise guerrilla style grow,my is similar(the plot and the number of the plants),except the tipe(i grow some sativa-dom.hibrids),i was thinking about diesel ryder,couldn't find regural seeds to produse some more(the plot is appr.2000 sq.feet,so i need a lot of them),may be i'll do like you,cross some autofl.mails&diesel rider femin.(not sure it is gonna work),impatient to see the outcome&steal the idea for the next season(forgive mekiss-ass),sub+rep.

GodsPredeces0r said:

Nice grow man, ill keep my eyes open to see the outcome.

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Thanks, glad to have ya along for the ride.

tabasito said:

nise guerrilla style grow,my is similar(the plot and the number of the plants),except the tipe(i grow some sativa-dom.hibrids),i was thinking about diesel ryder,couldn't find regural seeds to produse some more(the plot is appr.2000 sq.feet,so i need a lot of them),may be i'll do like you,cross some autofl.mails&diesel rider femin.(not sure it is gonna work),impatient to see the outcome&steal the idea for the next season(forgive mekiss-ass),sub+rep.

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Yeah I've looked around too, and I haven't seen many places with Diesel Ryder regular seeds in stock. I know Attitude has the fem. seeds in stock. I was lucky to pick up 5 regular Diesel Ryder from Castle Seeds when they were still carrying them.

Good luck with your plans....2000 square feet is a good size for any grow....sounds promising!

Nice grow man. I'll be checking in on this one for sure. Just gettin my garden to the woods today. A lil late but better then never.