Harvest a pound every 3 weeks OUTDOOR VERSION!

hazetastic808

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The Hazetastic S8 (Super Stealth and Secure Self Sustaining Subterranean Sensimilia Sanctuary) outdoor grow box was designed for both Guerilla and Backyard growers in mind. Essentially both of these growers face similar issues with there grows and the S8 seeks to eliminate these and give you as close to the security and environment of an indoor grow box, outdoors under the sun.

These issues include

Pests
Bugs
Extreme weather
Aerial detection
Ground detection
Odor detection
High upkeep (for guerilla growers)

Now the key is to account for all of those things while still giving your plant the 3 essential things it needs to grow.

Light
Water
Oxygen

Now when I designed this I had a lot of things in mind. I wanted something that could produce at least a pound, while only needing to be visited once or twice a month. Something that could keep my plants alive in any weather, through a hurricane even. And finally something so discreet that you would not be able to detect it visually or by odor standing just feet away. Quite a tall order indeed, but I believe the S8 fit’s the bill. So finally here are some initial designs.

The S8 is a subterranean growbox which holds 15 dwarf sized plants, and doubles as its own rain-catcher filling a 125 gallon reservoir which will be enough to get u through the summers in even the dryest of climates, essentially you should never have to hike in your own water. It is designed to be dug 4 feet deep and the top leveled with the surrounding terrain, leaving a 6’x6’ footprint.


Start by digging a square trench a little more then 6’x6’. 4 feet deep and a 3’x3’ island in the center.

Level off the inner and outer walls of the trench and pound stakes into the ground bordering the inner and outer walls.

Fix heavyduty plastic panels on the inside and outside of these stakes, screw them together securely and fill the inside with foam insulation.

The inner panels will be 1 inch lower for drainage. (1 set of inner panels will need 2, ½” holes drilled in the center ½” from the top and 1’7” from the top. And 1 set of outer panels will need a hole centered 2” from the top. For pipe)

Either paint the walls now or you may have decided to just paint them before construction (use flat white for reflection)

Now dig out 7 small holes about a foot deeper, 4 at the corners and 3 in the middle sections except for one. These are for drainage. Refill these holes with small rocks/pebbles.

Fill the foundation with a layer of cement, 1 80lb bag should do. Making sure to place something over the drainage holes to keep them from filling in.

Your now left with a box made by the inner walls around the 3’x3’ island, dig out all the soil up to about 1’7.5” down and level it out.

Lay a pipe at the bottom with a 90 degree curve at one end facing up and the other end protruding through the hole you drilled earlier. Fill with the remaining cement mix just up to the lip of the pipe end.

Now before you continue your going to want to take caulk or some other water-sealant and seal every edge in the reservoir and the grow space to ensure its air and water tight.

Next step is to put supports connecting the outside of the hole to the lower center reservoir, apply weather-stripping to the tops of these as the doors will rest on them. Also apply weather stripping to the inner and outer perimeter to ensure while the doors are closed the box remains airtight.

Now install the second pipe from the top of the reservoir through the outside panel into the drainage. (for overflow)

Almost done, attach the trapezoidal doors with hinges opening towards the reservoir, and install heavy duty locks.

Final step put the roof over the reservoir, like the roof of a house 4 triangles made of solid plastic to block out light joined at the tip, the slope should only be about 1 inch steep. This roof has 2in. Stakes on the bottom corners and a screen will be wrapped all the way around and it will just be set in place and filter out the bigger debris.

(Additional step) Depending on how much rain you get in your area or how elevated your hole is, you may want to dig out a ditch about a foot-wide and the deeper the better all the way around the perimeter of your hole. Then backfill with small rocks and pebbles. This will insure your grow never floods out even in the worst of storms.
Okay at this point you’ve got yourself a pretty fine looking hole in the ground and you’ve spent probably less than $50 in materials, but more then made up for that with the hard work. But your still far from being able to grow plant in it. Your going to fill the bottom up to 1.5’ with FF soil at this point. But even then your not set! Sure you could hike the water in and water it every week but your plants still wouldn’t make it far without any ventilation for clean air, so that’s what we will address next. Don’t worry from here out guys the only real strain is going to be on your wallet.

A 4” in-line fan at the exhaust end pulls through a carbon filter for odor control and the air is flowed all the way around the box with the passive intake at the other end. The intake is fitted with a fan generator which along with a solar panel on the roof of the utility chamber will keep the battery constantly charged to power the fan. So that leaves us with 1 final element to make our grow a success, water.

Were going to be hooking up an electronic watering timer and flood the plants with 5 gal every 3 days, about 1.3 liters per plant. The design insures that you should be able to keep it constantly filled during the wet winter and spring months, and once it starts to become dryer the reservoir should be able to last you until the rainy season starts again. So the only things you’ll have to hike in and out are seedlings and your harvests.

There you have it, now you have yourself one hell of a guerilla growspace. I suggest for a final touch getting a net and supergluing some of the long pieces of surrounding grass too it spaced out how it is naturally so they stand up and blow in the wind, the light will still penetrate through just fine and it will add that final camo touch. If done right it will be virtually undetectable from the air, and within just a few feet a person could walk right past it without knowing. Basically the only way your going to get discovered is if someone should happen to walk right on to it. At which point all they will be able to do is stare at your beautiful babies unless they want to hike back in with some heavyduty tools.

You can even dry your plant right in the box, come back a week later jar them and go on your way. I however if the initial grow is a success will be building 2 of these to go with my small home vegging chamber. Growing dwarfs to 3 weeks indoors until they show sex, then putting the females out and harvesting at 9 weeks. Eventually going in every 3 weeks to harvest a crop and put a new one in the ground, hopefully making 1lb+ per crop.

The hole is dug (like holy shit digging holes sucks made me think of that book/movie Holes lol) and the stakes are pounded. I’ll be going up there sometime soon to lay the cement and finish the initial construction. My Blueryder and Dieselryders are 2 weeks from seed now, so I’m hoping to finish in the next 1-2 weeks and get them out there.

Now in believing that everything can always be made to be better, I’d like your guys thoughts and input about an electrical cover of some sorts in the future (think mini garage door) Idk how much energy it would be to run something like this twice a day, but if it could be done then it would be possible to put clones straight into flowering in an outdoor SOG no matter how long the summer days, just open the cover at 6:30am for example and close it at 6:29pm. And you could do this and just keep a few mothers rather then running autos from seed over and over.
 

wineman

Active Member
Looks great so far. Cant wait for some photos.

Ok, so what is the [FONT=&quot]reservoir[/FONT] made out of?

Electrically I have been thinking of a 5Watt solor cell, 12volt for power. $34.99 on ebay. It is basically a trickle charger capable of keeping a car battery topped off. You could run the "garage door" and pumps off it. Sump pump, watering pump. It would mount just under the door - exposed only when open. I haven't found a 12v timer yet but I imagine they're out there. Timer needed for door and fresh water. Sump pump on float switch.

We used to have a power drive projection screen at work that rolled up into a small box in the ceiling. (remote controlled) Since it's spring loaded, the same principle could be used horizontally. Using black/white mylar, even double layering it might be a solution for keeping out light during flowering. ((DAAAA)) use a spring loaded roll-it-up window shade covered in black/white mylar - custom camo paint the top side. Have it roll over a peak to keep evening showers from puddling on your closed roof. Now it would also require 12v motor for deployment and retraction. I'll have to research that one. All it would have to pull is less than 5lbs, and pull a string or small cord. Stop switches on each end.

I could really use this. This is fun!
 

northeastern lights

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Sounds like too much work. Just put them in the ground normally. Alot harder to find just plants than a sunken greenhouse. Your over thinking, keep it simple.
 

b0bdyl4n420

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yeah its a great idea and it might work for someone who can never visit their grow site but you would have to worry about mold and bugs cause if you're never visiting your site you would be fucked from one little mold spore or one little bug. It's definitly a lot easier and less complicated to just grow a monster deep in the woods somewhere lol
 

hazetastic808

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It's really not that much work besides the digging which you get it over with and your done with. I hiked in all the stakes and the foam insulation cans in my backpack with the panels cut down to managable carrying size 3'x2' and 40"x2' and carried everything up there in 1 trip. Next trip I'm going to be strapping the 80lb cement mix bag to my back (yay!) and carrying up the doors and that will be the end of the hard work just setting stuff up from there (aside from carrying in the plants and soil but that'll be easy by comparison.

In fact in the longrun its alot less work if your someone who has to hike in alot of their own water for whatever reason its not possible to plant near a watersource. And I'll have to look into that idea thanks wineman, although the worry I have is with rigging up a system to block out light like that, if something should get stuck or fail it could just block out the light for a couple of days and kill em :/

Also heres an example of why it would be alot less obvious then just a plant being there. Say for example you put it in a grassy field which I recommend the best because it gives lots of ground camo (also best not to plant around trees because leaves and branches will fall on it and block out the sun) but without some sort of net sticks out like hell from the air. Thats why you get a thin net made out of fishing line for example. Now measure how far apart the longgrass your planting in is, (1 every 2" apart was good for the net I made to cover the hole for now) pull up the grass in your 6' area by hand and collect it, get a hot glue gun (or whichever method you use to fix it to the net) and fix it to the net so the grass stands up (this is tedious and takes a while but its worth it)

So this is an example of your end result:

This is a grassy field before you start lllllllllllll
This is the grassy field once your hole is in place with no camo llll___llll
This is it once the net is applied lllillllllillll

That of course is a crude example using letters but you get the idea it would take a trained eye standing very close for detection and they wouldn't be able to smell it at all because of the carbon filter. If for some reason someone had gotten that close to a normal grow 1) they'd most likely see it, and 2) they would definitely smell it. Getting ripped is my main concern because I have been twice in my previous guerilla attempts because I live on Oahu and both of my previous attempts I hiked for at least 45 min into what I believed anyways to be the middle of nowhere but both times got fucked. You can only get so isolated on an overpopulated island like this, I know friends who have done it succesfully but its still a crapshoot really and I want to put the odds in my favor. I wish I lived on the mainland or Big Island where I could just get fuckn lost somewhere in the middle of nowhere and plant a tree :(
 

hazetastic808

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Also about bugs and mold, most guerrila growers I know visit their grows about as often every 2-3 weeks some go even longer, so I'm essentially doing the same only in a more contained environment. The key is using natural bug repellants, and things like Scorpion Juice (look it up I heard it works pretty good)
 

jonboy30

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Also about bugs and mold, most guerrila growers I know visit their grows about as often every 2-3 weeks some go even longer, so I'm essentially doing the same only in a more contained environment. The key is using natural bug repellants, and things like Scorpion Juice (look it up I heard it works pretty good)
Dude, I looked up Scorpion juice and it sounds all good. But I get confused about all these nutes. Do they all really work? I hear 50/50 people like em' and the other half don't. Any help?
 

mpgkush

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you need 2 nutes, ONE veg nute like EJ grow, and ONE Bloom nute like EJ Bloom, you dont need all the other shit that companies sell, its bullshit, you can get awesome weed with just a veg and bloom nutes
 

jonboy30

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you need 2 nutes, ONE veg nute like EJ grow, and ONE Bloom nute like EJ Bloom, you dont need all the other shit that companies sell, its bullshit, you can get awesome weed with just a veg and bloom nutes
So I shouldnt bother with a foliar spray combination?
 

Da Chef

Member
genius theory. i would like to see it in action. how close are you to constructing it? i like the mini-moat reservoir idea, it's so medieval! but really, its a good idea if you get the plastic side panels in good position. i think some photos would clear up all questions in my mind.
 

Purpanaire

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I think its genius! My hubby and I have talked about this, if we lived in an unfriendly state we would do something like this :)

Peace
Purpanaire
 

Pnuggle

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Construct it and snap some pictures man, I think you'd be able to express your theory through to people better then, you know?
 
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