andyman
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Ive been thinking about them inline pumps too, but wondering how much they will heat the water up since they wouldnt be in it.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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mindphuk
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The amount of time a tank lasts in that calculator is misleading. That's 87.4 hours of on-time. Your tank will be cycled so it won't be on continuously. Also, if you enter a lower flow rate, let's say by half, the tank lasts longer but has to go on for a longer period of time to get the ppm up to the level you want. The best way to use this calculator is to use it to figure out a flow rate that fills your area quick enough so that you can get levels back up soon after exhaust. Your true number of hours your tank will last will depend on how often you have to cycle depending on heat and refilling due to leaks if you are using a PPM meter.wow according to that calculator a 20lb tank would last me 87.4 hrs
any one know how big a 20lb tank is (height wise)? I allready have a new tank I got last year at an auction. (came full too) and its about 4-5' tall and have 2 others that are about 2ft tall. I sure hope a 20lb tank is small.
just wondering what that tall tank I have is. gota steal on it for $50 and it came with a 2ft one too. both full and in good shape
sorry to hear about your misfortune Gringo. They times are tuff everywere
whysohigh
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just taking a stab at it here, i may very well be wrong and would not take offense to being corrected, but flowering a clone with no veg time, wouldnt it be the same as leaving it on the mother and flowering it?
I think what rep was saying is that the plants ended up much smaller, therefore the yield was not as large. Could be wrong but thats what i took from it
mindphuk
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I'm also a bit confused. Isn't the smaller plant size taken into account when packing them in? Most SOG methods have very close spacing, yield per plant is low, but the higher number of plants/square meter make up for it.I think what rep was saying is that the plants ended up much smaller, therefore the yield was not as large. Could be wrong but thats what i took from it
Yeah smaller is better, I think the sweet spot for this system is between 8"-12", with 12 even pushing the limits! I'm amazed at how fast these babies grow! That aside, my clones are usually only 3-5 inches when I put them into veg so that would be small.
StinkBud
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Leave your dehumidifier on at all times.
It's pretty simple to hook the output hose up to a fan. You can also buy hose with little holes that you can wrap around your room. Remember, CO2 is heavier than air so you want to disperse it above the plants.
When I used timers I set my regulator to fill the room up to 2000 PPM over 1/2 hour. I set it to come on 3 times during the light cycle.
It would end up dropping to about 800 PPM before the next injection.
I set my timers so the the vent fan would come on and run for 15 minutes before the CO2 came on. Then the vent fan would shut off during the CO2 cycle.
Heat is your number one issue. As soon as you close off your room it will get hot as fuck!
With CO2 you can run your room at 85 degrees. The extra heat will speed up the plants metabolism.
A/C will be your only option at some point.
repvip
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No it's not bad--my clones were REALLY small with like 1 hair sticking out. They are fine--just ended up significantly smaller. Surely clones with more established roots would be fine. The process itself is not damaging to the plants.
Yes I took this into account when making my setup, which is why I only have 6" spacing between plants and 20 sites per flower unit.
However, after the empirical evidence, it makes much more sense (for me) to flower slightly larger plants, even if I have to space them out and only flower 10, I can get a bigger yield than lollipopping 20 small ones.
Pictures are worth a thousand words.
The first 3 pics show the clones->flower. They have a single small cola. Which is fine, it's what I wanted at first, but 3 main colas would be better... see pic 4 which was vegged for probably 2 weeks..
Pic 5 show flower units 3/4. The left has been flowering 2 weeks longer than the right. Notice the right has plants that are almost as big? They were vegged for a week first.
Pic 6 is the flower unit with small plants (clone->flower) on the inside and larger, vegged plants on the outside.
Pic 7 is another flower unit that was vegged before flowering. Much better
edit: found an old pic of the clones->flower so you could see the size. The middle plants in this unit were vegged for a week--the outside ones barely had roots.
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chucktownskunk
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repvip what is wrong with the leaves in the first three pics i have the same problem any pointers on that i am on week 9 1/2
repvip
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I've been running at 3000ppm and a couple plants dont like it, that's all. Some of the leaves have nute burn pretty good... haven't started the flush yet, but that can have similar effects (though the leaves usually don't burn to a crisp haha)
chucktownskunk
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i am flushing now i am on week 9 and i want this to end i will never do a sativa again my god they get huge!!
repvip
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Hah! I know the feeling... I try to avoid them.. still nothing beats a good sativa high. (opinion--lets not argue)..
It's flower day 48 for my closest unit! Capable of harvesting every 56 days with these strains still recovering from the last harvest (so much work!) so will harvest on day 60 this time, with a 5-7day flush starting day 53-55.
Actually I am growing some Dutch Passion right now, and supposedly are 100% sativa with 8-9 weeks finish time--they are looking close and eerily like an indica to me... and it is covered in trichomes. BUT just realized the THC is only 8.6% !! AND it smells like an onion. My others are ~20% THC... I'm wondering if this DP will suck? I hope not--it grows and clones extremely fast.
It's flower day 48 for my closest unit! Capable of harvesting every 56 days with these strains
still recovering from the last harvest (so much work!) so will harvest on day 60 this time, with a 5-7day flush starting day 53-55.Actually I am growing some Dutch Passion right now, and supposedly are 100% sativa with 8-9 weeks finish time--they are looking close and eerily like an indica to me... and it is covered in trichomes. BUT just realized the THC is only 8.6% !! AND it smells like an onion. My others are ~20% THC... I'm wondering if this DP will suck? I hope not--it grows and clones extremely fast.
StinkBud
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I was going to ask you what your PPM was.
It's amazing how much nutes some strains can handle. I have a strain called Snowbud (Akorn) that can handle over 3000PPM and still ask for more! Of course all my other strains would burn to a crisp with my PPM that hot.
It looks like your room might be too hot. What are your room temps?
High temps will make the leaves curl up. Too much nutrients make the leaves curl down, like a claw.
Unless you are flushing. Flushing makes all kinds of weird shit happen to the plant.
Those buds look dank as fuck bro! Keep up the good work!
chucktownskunk
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how long does it usually tke before you harvest a sativa my leaves are yellow and falling off left and right you think its ready?
repvip
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StinkBud... always catching my glaring omissions 
Room temp is a good 85 with lights on (I have plans of exhausting out the chimney soon.. should really reduce temp) but it doesn't go above 85. Drops probably 20-30 degrees at night. Maybe the location of those particular plants are in a hot spot as well...
How much bubble hash do you typically get from your trim? Or is it variable? I think my technique is bad.. I only got 5grams from all that trim from the first harvest (easily 1/2 of a 5gal bucket dry, about 1/5 completely wet)..
Room temp is a good 85 with lights on (I have plans of exhausting out the chimney soon.. should really reduce temp) but it doesn't go above 85. Drops probably 20-30 degrees at night. Maybe the location of those particular plants are in a hot spot as well...
How much bubble hash do you typically get from your trim? Or is it variable? I think my technique is bad.. I only got 5grams from all that trim from the first harvest (easily 1/2 of a 5gal bucket dry, about 1/5 completely wet)..
StinkBud
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It's true bro! A nice Sativa high is the best. Too bad they take so long to finish. They work great for day use because you don't get so tired.
You also don't have a ceiling so the more you smoke, the higher you get.
When I'm in a lot of pain nothing beats a heavy Indica. I'll always keep some sort of a Kush going just for heavy medicine.
Right now I've narrowed my quiver down to 4 strains.
1) Blueberry - my cutting is the best of the best. 25+ years old and still going strong!
2) Purple Silver - A cross between a very famous Purple strain of Cali and Silver Haze. It tastes and smells just like grape juice. Huge producer! Great high also.
3) NYC Diesel - This shit is too strong for day use! It puts me down hard. By far the best for pain though. When I can't sleep, I bust out the Diesel.
4) Goo - Super resin coated buds that smell beyond sweet. The strongest grape smell you can ever imagine. Even the fan leaves end up covered in trichromes!
As good as all the other strains are these are the ones to write home to Ma about!
We see pretty much every popular strain in the med community here. As much as I love the taste of the killer Kush varieties I just can't smoke them. They just plain knock my dick in the dirt and I can't get anything done.
The Sativa mixes give me the taste and high along with the meds that I need for pain.
I wish I could hook you all up with the Blueberry and Purple Silver clones...
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StinkBud
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That sounds about right. My buds don't produce much trim. I end up with a full grocery bag of trim once I remove the stems.StinkBud... always catching my glaring omissions
Room temp is a good 85 with lights on (I have plans of exhausting out the chimney soon.. should really reduce temp) but it doesn't go above 85. Drops probably 20-30 degrees at night. Maybe the location of those particular plants are in a hot spot as well...
How much bubble hash do you typically get from your trim? Or is it variable? I think my technique is bad.. I only got 5grams from all that trim from the first harvest (easily 1/2 of a 5gal bucket dry, about 1/5 completely wet)..
In fact I'm going into the bathroom right now to make a batch of bubble. It's only half my harvest but I'll let you know what it ends up weighing. The other half of my harvest is still drying and looks like it will fill another whole bag with trimmings.
So far my harvest ended up at 12oz. I still have at least another 12oz. drying!
One Blueberry plant produced almost 3oz all by itself! life is good!
The thing is, you guys are not going to believe the next harvest! It's going to be insane. I'll post some picks after I finish making bubble.
chucktownskunk
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do you make seeds or do you order them stink?
StinkBud
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I have an almost pure Sativa (Skunk #11) growing in soil right now. It's been flowering for 3 months and still has at least another 2-4 weeks longer to go.
How long does it take to flower a Sativa? Forever...