Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Saladsmokin said:

my digi cam jus broke hah. fuckin sux... but the strains are gdp, grape ape, and purple hardball... they are startin to look better.. ive been hella lazy lately wit checkin the ph. thats prolly wat it is haha checkin it like every 3 days.. but ive been chekin it for the past two days keepin it at 5.8 wen it goes to 6.0 it looks like they are happier tho. i may jus be trippin cuz im paranoid bout all this haha.

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PH is not the big of a deal with our system. The reason you have to watch your PH is to avoid nutrient lockout.

Our system can fluctuate quite a bit with no ill effects. 5.5-6.5 will work fine.

havefungodumb said:

stink i tried my cloner with some flowers and stuff they started lookin good but then after 3-4 days didnt pop no roots i know thats not long enough

im in canada i think i need to keep my rez warmer..

iv read you dont need to control humidity and stuff they should pop on there own?

i got pics of system
was using vinager to drop PH down...
havnt got any nutes yet..

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Most of my plants take 4-7 days to show any signs of roots. My NYC Diesel take 4 weeks to root. That's right, I said weeks.

The plants don't die and eventually they all pop roots but WTF! So I just take shit load of cuttings and eventually the all pop roots given enough time.

This one scientist rooted an endangered Redwood tree cutting. It took over a year!

As long as your cuttings don't die you are good.

Don't waste your time with practice. Just check out DirtHawker's first grow with no practice. Dirt's grow kicks taint.

Hey stinkbud-I was having a heck of a time getting my Red Diesel from Barneys to pop roots. I thought I must be screwing up somewhere. I got one clone that was looking like it was going to be my first casualty but it's starting to get the root spikes coming out of the stem. My question kind sir is how big are you letting these diesels get before you stick them into flower? How tall are they going to get in the flowering stage? Here is a diesel clone and my Red Diesel momma. My clones are taking 2-3 weeks to pop roots. Thanks for the info

StinkBud said:

Most of my plants take 4-7 days to show any signs of roots. My NYC Diesel take 4 weeks to root. That's right, I said weeks.

The plants don't die and eventually they all pop roots but WTF! So I just take shit load of cuttings and eventually the all pop roots given enough time.

This one scientist rooted an endangered Redwood tree cutting. It took over a year!

As long as your cuttings don't die you are good.

Don't waste your time with practice. Just check out DirtHawker's first grow with no practice. Dirt's grow kicks taint.

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StinkBud said:

PH is not the big of a deal with our system. The reason you have to watch your PH is to avoid nutrient lockout.

Our system can fluctuate quite a bit with no ill effects. 5.5-6.5 will work fine.

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Alright thanks again stink. I have one of ur flower systems done im gona build them as i need them through the 3, 6, 9 cycle. Im jus waitin another week to transfer my vegging . Im going to use 4 600hps with ten holes in each system.

StinkBud said:

I'm actually thinking of a light mover or adding another couple of lights. The plants against the walls just don't get enough light.

Your idea might work better...

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Well I've been looking at these lights.

http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2642&cat=396&page=1

I'll use that one to hang over my lone flower unit, and since its water cooled, I should be able to keep it fairly close to the plants without worrying about burning em up, not to mention all the heat and then noise that comes with cooling em, that I WONT have to deal with like regular HID lights.

In between the other two flower units I'm going to hang this vertically....

http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2925&cat=396&page=1

Again, since its water cooled I can keep it fairly close to the plants without any worry.

All my lights are going to be powered off of lumatek digital ballasts, again to cut heat and noise. Even with some 1000w lights, the hottest running thing i am going to be running is my 250w MH light for my veggies, which will be in a seperate room all together.

With all 3 flower units enclosed in a simple wood frame enclosure lined with black/white plastic and some mylar/fire blankets, should this set-up show me some above average results? Add to that, since theyre all going to be well contained, once I get some extra money flowing down the road I can easily add a CO2 tank as well.




Also, and this is for anyone with any kind of input, what are some awesome 1000w bulbs for flowering that my lumatek ballatsts will be able to support?

StinkBud said:

I move mine when the space opens up. At harvest time I move the veg plants into the flower room.

That opens up 14 holes in my veg unit that I fill with plants from the clone unit. Then I take more clones and I'm done.

You can move clones into veg and start feeding nutes as soon as you have roots (if you have the room).

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thanks
Ive got room from movin veg to flower , I just wanted to make sure cause some are only a week old but have bomb ass roots. they ve been doin fine all day at about 1980 ppm now since I added a lil more nuits. thanks again peace

Verdant said:

Well I've been looking at these lights.

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I've looked into Liquid lumen as a solution for my garden in the past
i opted out in the end, they require to much maintenance to run properly
you will have to have chillers and your adding yourself more reservoirs and pumps
no to mentioned you will have to keep your water 100% clean constantly
to protect against algae buildup and calcium buildup
there were cases with these tubes blowing up(running cold water into hot tube)
most of the time its due to user error, but still these thing can blow right in your hand one day
with us pot heads its a greater chances for that to happen
the technology is nice in concept, not suited yet for his type critical grow

my two cents on Liquid Lumen

damn.. i saw a spider mite on one of my buds on one of my grape ape plants frm my last grow. Its day 62 for her and i was gona pick her tomorow? r the buds gona be alright?

then i have these other 3 purp hardball i had flowering only for two weeks and i noticed mite all over them.. i jus chopped them out. but i was wondering if i could make clones of this still?

Verdant said:

Well I've been looking at these lights.

http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2642&cat=396&page=1

I'll use that one to hang over my lone flower unit, and since its water cooled, I should be able to keep it fairly close to the plants without worrying about burning em up, not to mention all the heat and then noise that comes with cooling em, that I WONT have to deal with like regular HID lights.

In between the other two flower units I'm going to hang this vertically....

http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2925&cat=396&page=1

Again, since its water cooled I can keep it fairly close to the plants without any worry.
w MH light for my veggies, which will be in a seperate room all together.

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How big of a chiller do you need to run those? It seems like an expensive alternative to the small gains you get over air cooled.

SOG said:

I've looked into Liquid lumen as a solution for my garden in the past
i opted out in the end, they require to much maintenance to run properly
you will have to have chillers and your adding yourself more reservoirs and pumps
no to mentioned you will have to keep your water 100% clean constantly
to protect against algae buildup and calcium buildup
there were cases with these tubes blowing up(running cold water into hot tube)
most of the time its due to user error, but still these thing can blow right in your hand one day
with us pot heads its a greater chances for that to happen
the technology is nice in concept, not suited yet for his type critical grow

my two cents on Liquid Lumen

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All very legit problems that i've heard of too. However i think i got it down though.

With a 55 gal black drum, 2 extra 396gph pumps and this...
http://www.texashydroponics.com/shop/product.php?productid=2811&cat=396&page=1
.....i should be alright.

I have a water supply store in my neighborhood that supplies filtered and reverse osmosis water by the gallon for dirt cheap, and when combined with a water filter in the drum, there should be little to no build up of any kind in my lights or my pump lines.

Also with the no-flow no-go switch which turns off the ballasts if it senses no water flow in the tubes, i should be more than fine.

mindphuk said:

How big of a chiller do you need to run those? It seems like an expensive alternative to the small gains you get over air cooled.

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A 1/10th HP chiller is more than enough for a 55 gal drum of water.

When you add it all up though, the start up costs i mean, you actually end up saving a LOT more in the long run.

Think about where the majority of your power is being used up on in your electric bill. A/c right? Well with liquid lights you have no need for your a/c running all the time, and with that alone you should see your electric bill be cut at least in half.

I'm not saying that these lights are for everyone, but if you live in the south like I do, it's a fu sho a money saver.

Just picked up the latest High Times. I was surprised to see it was the April issue. I guess they get way out on that. Less then 2 months then for your article to come out, Stinkbud?

Also, the issue covered the last Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam. The 1st place for coffee shop buds went to Greenhouse for the Super Lemon Haze. A cross between Lemon Skunk and Super Silver Haze. Man, does it look yummy. I believe I read that it won in a landslide vote.

Combining that super lemon flavor with the best haze to create the Super Lemon Haze, Arjan once again has mastered his constituents' taste buds.

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Question: How much clout does a cup winner really have? I don't have the balls yet to place an online order, but I think this would be at the top of my list to try.

I've never tried lemon skunk, but I did grow Super Silver Haze a number of years ago and it is fantastic. I remember driving with a friend to go see Return of the King when it first came out and I was so hazed that not only couldn't I think of what city I was in, I couldn't even think of the state. Took about 10 minutes for the landmarks to look familiar. (Was a great movie though!)

westmich said:

Just picked up the latest High Times. I was surprised to see it was the April issue. I guess they get way out on that. Less then 2 months then for your article to come out, Stinkbud?

Also, the issue covered the last Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam. The 1st place for coffee shop buds went to Greenhouse for the Super Lemon Haze. A cross between Lemon Skunk and Super Silver Haze. Man, does it look yummy. I believe I read that it won in a landslide vote.



Question: How much clout does a cup winner really have? I don't have the balls yet to place an online order, but I think this would be at the top of my list to try.

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dragonbud said:

Hey stinkbud-I was having a heck of a time getting my Red Diesel from Barneys to pop roots. I thought I must be screwing up somewhere. I got one clone that was looking like it was going to be my first casualty but it's starting to get the root spikes coming out of the stem. My question kind sir is how big are you letting these diesels get before you stick them into flower? How tall are they going to get in the flowering stage? Here is a diesel clone and my Red Diesel momma. My clones are taking 2-3 weeks to pop roots. Thanks for the info

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That's almost exactly the size I take them into flower. Any bigger and they grow into the lights.

hey stink i sent you a PM, but any way do you have to keep the water heated or is like 60-70 degrees OK.

mrduke said:

hey stink i sent you a PM, but any way do you have to keep the water heated or is like 60-70 degrees OK.

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Don't go over 72 degree's or u will get slime/algae/ect...

Not sure what the lowest possible temp is, but I wouldn't drop below mid 50's.

Saladsmokin said:

then i have these other 3 purp hardball i had flowering only for two weeks and i noticed mite all over them.. i jus chopped them out. but i was wondering if i could make clones of this still?

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Yes, you can still clone those plants but first...

I don't want to freak you out bro but you have a serious problem. In fact it's the worst thing that can happen. Spider mites are the worst of the worst. I've lost everything to mites multiple times.

You need to buy some predator mites right away. Don't wait or you could loose everything.

http://www.naturescontrol.com/mite.html#tt

Spray your clones and veg plants with Neem oil once a week from now on.

Take a couple of teaspoons of neem oil and mix it with warm water.

Add a few drops of soap to help the water flow on the leaves. Spray your plants when the lights are off.

Make sure you spray the underside of the leaves good.

Neem oil coats the leaves and the bugs hate it. You can't use it on the buds though, only plants without flowers.

Don't use predator mites where you spray or you will kill them too.

When you take your new clones dip them in a neem oil water mix before you put them in the cloner.

When ever any of you receive clones from someone else always assume they have pests. ALWAYS spray clones that come from someone else.

You can make it through this if you follow my advise bro...Good luck!

Verdant said:

A 1/10th HP chiller is more than enough for a 55 gal drum of water.

When you add it all up though, the start up costs i mean, you actually end up saving a LOT more in the long run.

Think about where the majority of your power is being used up on in your electric bill. A/c right? Well with liquid lights you have no need for your a/c running all the time, and with that alone you should see your electric bill be cut at least in half.

I'm not saying that these lights are for everyone, but if you live in the south like I do, it's a fu sho a money saver.

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I run my room at 85 degrees with CO2. My biggest problem is humidity. My plants transpire a gallon of water every day because the room is sealed and so hot. Th moisture has no where to go.

That means my dehumidifier needs to run constantly during lights on. That little bitch puts out a lot of heat!

I don't see anyway around not having A/C this Summer. It's just too hot.

I'm not sure how much the water cooled lights would help. I can put my hand on top of my light now without burning.

The extra power for the water pumps and chiller is probably about the same as the power an A/C unit uses.

This is what I want... A/C and dehumidifier in one. The cool thing is it has a separate input so you don't suck all the CO2 out of the room.

I just have to find one.

StinkBud said:

Yes, you can still clone those plants but first...

I don't want to freak you out bro but you have a serious problem. In fact it's the worst thing that can happen. Spider mites are the worst of the worst. I've lost everything to mites multiple times.

You need to buy some predator mites right away. Don't wait or you could loose everything.

http://www.naturescontrol.com/mite.html#tt

Spray your clones and veg plants with Neem oil once a week from now on.

Take a couple of teaspoons of neem oil and mix it with warm water.

Add a few drops of soap to help the water flow on the leaves. Spray your plants when the lights are off.

Make sure you spray the underside of the leaves good.

Neem oil coats the leaves and the bugs hate it. You can't use it on the buds though, only plants without flowers.

Don't use predator mites where you spray or you will kill them too.

When you take your new clones dip them in a neem oil water mix before you put them in the cloner.

When ever any of you receive clones from someone else always assume they have pests. ALWAYS spray clones that come from someone else.

You can make it through this if you follow my advise bro...Good luck!

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Damn this sux.. it was hella hard to find all these strains i wanted to.. i cut the 3 purp hardball out of the garden.
should my vegging be alright if i follow wat u jus said, I took them before i noticed the spider mites... but there werent any spidermites on the grape ape or gdp wen i took those cuttings? cuz i dont wana lose the vegging plants i have that im about to flower? Should i jus take clones off the vegging once im able to and then spray those jus to make sure they dnt have spiders.
I only took 3 cuttings from the purp hardball that had mites?
should the grape ape and gdp be alright because i put those in there a week before the purp hardball babies.. should i jus remove all the purp hardball frm the whole garden?
You think ill be able to get rid of them?
how many spider mite predators should i get? jw?

but the only flowerin plants i have right now are a gdp startin week7 and grape ape startin week 9. I jus dont want my new vegging and clones to be messed up for ur system i jus built. haha.

Today im gona get the neem oil and the spider mite predator triple threat mix..and keep buyin them if i have to haha. how much should i get? .. along wit sum liquid karma and cal mag cuz ive jus been using the p.b. veg for the veggin nutes.