Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Dago: I dont mind high maintnance systems I want what everyone wants......high yeilds for low money. Dont get me wrong I know initial start up cost is there with any system but I want something that im not going to have tons of probs with and tons of recurring costs. I understand how aero works but once the roots get real big inside that little 4x4 area doesnt it dam up the water? That is the only prob that i have heard of people haveing with the SB system. Thank you for your suggestion but I am not interested in soil. Dirt is dirty and to many bugs for me.

I love the fact that so many people have had success with the SB system. Pics are worth 1000 words.

ToWeRdog and FloWeRGirl said:

Dago: I dont mind high maintnance systems I want what everyone wants......high yeilds for low money. Dont get me wrong I know initial start up cost is there with any system but I want something that im not going to have tons of probs with and tons of recurring costs. I understand how aero works but once the roots get real big inside that little 4x4 area doesnt it dam up the water? That is the only prob that i have heard of people haveing with the SB system. Thank you for your suggestion but I am not interested in soil. Dirt is dirty and to many bugs for me.

I love the fact that so many people have had success with the SB system. Pics are worth 1000 words.

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I am running a SB system now using the 4x4 posts and I have crazy roots (3 weeks into flowering) but it doesn't seem just yet to be a problem. My next system I might switch to the next size up to make sure my roots have enough room. I also have a problem with my roots growing out of the posts and hanging into my reservior.

But it is a great system. I've had much success with it so far.

Thats good to hear....If your rez temps are high then i would get some sm-90. It is supposed to prevent root rot among other things. It is also organic!

hey the Rubbermaid roughnecks at the local Lowes all have super super loose lids. Is that right ? Or do I need to find different roughneck lids?

ph0n3 said:

Hey this is in High Times. I looked into just using these nutrient ratios, but whenever I mixed mine with those ratios my PPMS kept coming in at like 800-900PPM not 2000PPM. What gives?

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So in an 18 gallons res you have about 10 or 12 gallons of water. 10 gallons of water will be taken up to 2900 PPM with those measurements give or take a few PPM. More clear now? So 18 gallons will not be taken up to 2900PPM, 10 gallons will. You should just use whatever you need to get your PPM to the correct value for your res.

If you are saying you mixed that with 10 gallons of water and you are at 800PPM you need a new PPM meter.

flogger said:

I also have a problem with my roots growing out of the posts and hanging into my reservior.

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Others are trimming their roots to keep them from growing out of the pipe. I will be doing the same.

i put 15 gallons of water in the 18 gallon res when i fill

I only used an 18 gallon res for about a week then I swapped mine out to a 25 gallons rubbermaid roughneck. I am still only running 12 gallons of water, I know because I counted 12 of them in then set that as my line. Is it important to get the other 3 gallons in there dagobaker?

running 85 degrees with co2 makes them sweat a ton and i lose a good chuck of nute mix every 24 hours
so the more full the better.........less chance of having ec and ph swings

Hey DB,

I was going to go with a cheap dirt grow for now as I am strapped for cash among other things.

Would an EarthBox be a good way to go? If so, how do you set one up for a MJ grow? Could you fill me in on how you set it up, what fert's you use for it ,etc, etc? Thanks for any input you can supply...

dagobaker said:

ive built so many of these systems i just buy 10 packs of everything and always more than i need so i dont run out
i dont think aero with co2 is for everyone.......but for those who want to create the best tasting and biggest yield possible
if u are worried about the root rot ........look up earth boxes........u can load them with any dirt and they have a 2 gallon rez under so u only water once a week
i love both methods...........
the aero is high maintence .......earth boxes low maint.

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what i dont understand is stink bud says

5) Fill the cloner with your favorite strains. Don’t spray the cuttings.

So what is the reason for putting in the sprayers if we dont spray the clones??

Im confused

stiffler said:

what i dont understand is stink bud says

5) Fill the cloner with your favorite strains. Don’t spray the cuttings.

So what is the reason for putting in the sprayers if we dont spray the clones??

Im confused

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Often times, folks will mist or 'spray' their cuttings with water to increase humidity. This is not required with aero cloning, neither is a humidome.

ph0n3 said:

Hey this is in High Times. I looked into just using these nutrient ratios, but whenever I mixed mine with those ratios my PPMS kept coming in at like 800-900PPM not 2000PPM. What gives?

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You are either adding your mix to a greater quantity of water than Stinks mix, you are not doing the math right when converting, or your meter is off.

Use the Botanicare feeding charts - go with about half of what they recommend if using all of the additives with the PureBlend Pro line. Dial in just one gallon first. Note: Hydrogaurd has been replaced with AquaShield - same product, different name and packaging.

Hey dagobaker

I really hope you are right about res temps, I've been told by a few and read allot of info on this subject.
The following quote is very consistent to everything I heard and read...

" The optimal temperature of the nutrient solution should be in the range of 65 to 75 degrees Fahrenheit."

I have been able to manage temps by simply putting 2 frozen 20oz Pepsi bottles in each res when they reach 75. This is done every afternoon for a week, temps are under control now. It works good, in an hour after placing the ice in the res temps drop 4 to 6 degrees.

stinkbud you are the man I just ran into your post today, and my only regret is not seeing it sooner, you get a lot of respect from me for taking so much time out and explaining your method, much props to you my brothers =)

Shrike said:

Hey DB,

I was going to go with a cheap dirt grow for now as I am strapped for cash among other things.

Would an EarthBox be a good way to go? If so, how do you set one up for a MJ grow? Could you fill me in on how you set it up, what fert's you use for it ,etc, etc? Thanks for any input you can supply...

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earth boxes are not cheap........get them online or at ur local nursery
looking at 40$ with tax but worth every penny
earth boxes are hydroponics via a wick system
i like to use coco and perlite mixed and then use the same nute mix as the stink bud system
or.
get some miracle grow moisture control and fill it with that.....just be sure to only use it with mature seedlings otherwise ull "burn" small clones with the "hot" mix
just use regular water with the mg soil for 2 months and then use normal stink bud nutes with a 6.5 ph

Thanks for the fill-in, DB.
Looks like I'll either go with a couple of earth boxes or a bunch of Hempy buckets...just don't feel like messing with soil if I don't have to...

dagobaker said:

earth boxes are not cheap........get them online or at ur local nursery
looking at 40$ with tax but worth every penny
earth boxes are hydroponics via a wick system
i like to use coco and perlite mixed and then use the same nute mix as the stink bud system
or.
get some miracle grow moisture control and fill it with that.....just be sure to only use it with mature seedlings otherwise ull "burn" small clones with the "hot" mix
just use regular water with the mg soil for 2 months and then use normal stink bud nutes with a 6.5 ph

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hi guys. long time lurker here coming out of the wood works. i was reading over this thread (got all the way to pg120) and im curious about stinks nutrients formula. right now im running lucas formula wit GH nutrients in a ebb and flow table sog style with hydroton and i can barely make it to 1200ppm before i flush with the strain Purps. Now with stinks setup he takes a newly rooted clone and throws it in the veg setup starting with 1500ppm and later bringing it up to 2000ppm by the second week. Is this because of the organic nutrients he is using? is it because im in an ebb and flow setup with tables? i would just be a lil nervous putting my clones in a 1500ppm mixture.

hempy works great btw

Somewhere in this awesome thread I read about a drought flush that the boss himself found by accident. But I am having trouble finding it in the thread. Can anyone help with proceduer or what page etc... Thanks a lot