Saladsmokin
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Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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I like that idea! I have been scrambling to finish my flower room and my first 3 post flower unit as I have one batch that definitely is outgrowing the veg unit.
The batch on the right was cut 4 weeks ago. the ones on the right are a little less than 3 weeks from cuttings. They all have amazing roots!
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StinkBud
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If you decide to run CO2 then you will need A/C or dehumidifier, Co2 tank and regulator, Co2 monitor or timers.
You need a couple of fans in your room to move the air around.
You have all your meters right?
hi guys. I bought everything for the cloner and the veg unit. I couldn't get the 1/2 inch PVC pipes to fit securely on the pump nozzle. I used the 1/2 inch attachment. Did you guys have a workaround or does it matter?
Also, about how far away are the sprayers supposed to be from the top of the lid? Because it looks like they're a long ways away. They look too low. I used the 18 gal rghneck containers.
Any help would be appreciated.
Also, about how far away are the sprayers supposed to be from the top of the lid? Because it looks like they're a long ways away. They look too low. I used the 18 gal rghneck containers.
Any help would be appreciated.
Picasso345
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Those look great LionsRoor. And your rooms look amazing. Clean and simple and very functional.
SOG
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Shrike
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tilemaster
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Im w stinkbud 2, Keep that up man making me wish i could use sog w/ your cheap rubbermaid techniques and drop this soil shit.
Yo Bra - there are many ways to hook it up... if you are using the EcoPlus pumps, they accept standard 1/2" thread (threaded PVC or CarFlex). The EcoPlus pumps come with all sorts of fittings that screw into that 1/2" fitting. One of them accepts 1/2" ID tubing - you can use that and then a similar fitting at the "T" of your spray assembly. There is also one for larger tubing... You can also use a 1/2" PVC compression coupling (see my post a few pics up).
As for spray bar vertical location - I have played with that considerably and have found that 8.5" on center, measured from the bottom of the container (outside of container) works well for me. It's high enough to deliver a nice spray to all holes in an 18 and 23 hole pattern, but low enough that it's not pelting the roof of the lid with water and causing leaks... Again, this is just the distance I have been using.
On another note, I just use the veg for cloning too...
The pressure in these systems is very low - I was using the tubing to attach the pump and you don't even need hose clamps - though it may be a good idea if the tubing is at all loose on your barbed fitting.
thecholochef
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use a 1/2" coupling on the piece that connects to the pump, then dig thru the different connnections that came with the pump , one fo them fits fine into the coupling... the sprayers look like they are way too far down, but once u got the pump hooked up right you'll see that they are fine... water will spray all over the place if the lid is off.. if the dont then check the pump connection again.. GL
Milton187
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IT IS NOT THRIPS!!!
I checked them over very good. No bugs!
They are looking better then yesterday.
I drained and cleaned the res. Using water and clearex for a day. Lots of salt buildup on the res cover.
I am hoping for the best!
Milt
AverageJohnDoe
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Good luck Milton.
And in my neck of the woods....
Good news! After hundreds of failed clones and a year + of wasted time and cost of materials... I finally have roots!
After 3 weeks of sitting in bubblers, cups of water, old aero setups. I finally got me some roots to pop in ~5-6 days with this new setup!
Here is what I did:
First of all, the roughneck container is a huge plus over my other aero attempts. They would all leak, no matter what. This simple container is key! I plan on trying some of the tough/strong boxes though. Make sure you light proof the container! Any light will allow algae to form, and that slimey shit sucks!
A $7 15/15 min on/off timer is another new thing this go. I really think it helps the clones 'look' for that water and pop roots. In bubblers, or aero with 24/7 running pump, they have a constant supply of water, why go look for it?
Low lighting! Why are these people running lamps 2" away? I tried a foot away and it yellows the leaves, kills the clones. I have a shop light about 5-6 feet away! I think this was also key.
I am running straight tap water (160ppm 7.7ph) lowered to 5.8 ph with some funk control (Dutch master Zone + h2o2, not much though). (I used to use slight amounts of nutes and this go I tried none, no dipping powders, gels, anything, just straight ph adjusted water, it worked, so I am going to keep using the water only method) I haven't changed the water yet, but I am going to today with some fresh water. When I setup the system the first time and ran straight water in it for about 2 days, there was already a line from the water level of funk forming and it started to get the smell slightly. So I drained it, cleaned it, and pus some new water with the zone. The zone and h2o2 completely got rid of this even with 82+ deg water temp. The water has a very fresh smell to it, but I am still going to change it today. I have had tons of problems with funk/slime in the past and I am going to get rid of it. I plan on buying a chiller soon.
If you are having problems cloning.... try stinks methods. Follow them strictly. I am still going to order the CAP timer so I can have better time control. I don't want to water for 15 mins straight on (my water temp is already a high ~82 deg right now) and I think that will help lower it and allow for better root growth and keep the funk controlled a little more
Hopefully i get 100%!
Parts:
Roughneck container - $8 lowes (gray with black lid)
~290gph (can't remember off top of head) water pump - $25 harbor freight
Adjustable timer (15 mins on/15 mins off) - $7 harbor freight
½ PVC pipe/adapters - $5 lowes
3/4 PVC pipe insulation - $3 lowes
360 misters - $.50 each? Ordered
Everything is reusable if cleaned besides the collars which are made from cut (a couple inches long) pipe insulation (rolled and slid into the holes in the lid).
A good day indeed. If you are having problems. Take note on what made me successful, and also listen to stink. The man knows his stuff!
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge stink. It means a lot.
And in my neck of the woods....
Good news! After hundreds of failed clones and a year + of wasted time and cost of materials... I finally have roots!
After 3 weeks of sitting in bubblers, cups of water, old aero setups. I finally got me some roots to pop in ~5-6 days with this new setup!
Here is what I did:
First of all, the roughneck container is a huge plus over my other aero attempts. They would all leak, no matter what. This simple container is key! I plan on trying some of the tough/strong boxes though. Make sure you light proof the container! Any light will allow algae to form, and that slimey shit sucks!
A $7 15/15 min on/off timer is another new thing this go. I really think it helps the clones 'look' for that water and pop roots. In bubblers, or aero with 24/7 running pump, they have a constant supply of water, why go look for it?
Low lighting! Why are these people running lamps 2" away? I tried a foot away and it yellows the leaves, kills the clones. I have a shop light about 5-6 feet away! I think this was also key.
I am running straight tap water (160ppm 7.7ph) lowered to 5.8 ph with some funk control (Dutch master Zone + h2o2, not much though). (I used to use slight amounts of nutes and this go I tried none, no dipping powders, gels, anything, just straight ph adjusted water, it worked, so I am going to keep using the water only method) I haven't changed the water yet, but I am going to today with some fresh water. When I setup the system the first time and ran straight water in it for about 2 days, there was already a line from the water level of funk forming and it started to get the smell slightly. So I drained it, cleaned it, and pus some new water with the zone. The zone and h2o2 completely got rid of this even with 82+ deg water temp. The water has a very fresh smell to it, but I am still going to change it today. I have had tons of problems with funk/slime in the past and I am going to get rid of it. I plan on buying a chiller soon.
If you are having problems cloning.... try stinks methods. Follow them strictly. I am still going to order the CAP timer so I can have better time control. I don't want to water for 15 mins straight on (my water temp is already a high ~82 deg right now) and I think that will help lower it and allow for better root growth and keep the funk controlled a little more
Hopefully i get 100%!
Parts:
Roughneck container - $8 lowes (gray with black lid)
~290gph (can't remember off top of head) water pump - $25 harbor freight
Adjustable timer (15 mins on/15 mins off) - $7 harbor freight
½ PVC pipe/adapters - $5 lowes
3/4 PVC pipe insulation - $3 lowes
360 misters - $.50 each? Ordered
Everything is reusable if cleaned besides the collars which are made from cut (a couple inches long) pipe insulation (rolled and slid into the holes in the lid).
A good day indeed. If you are having problems. Take note on what made me successful, and also listen to stink. The man knows his stuff!
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge stink. It means a lot.
Saladsmokin
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Sup stink thanks again for the help. I have all my stuff set up im jus kinda scared about overloading the electricity i dnt have any timers for the vent fan or lights yet wat do u recomend i get? This is my first Real Flowering Room nd i want to make it really nice..My first indoor gro i jus put the 600 lite in the closet wit dwc buckets.. but now i have the new flowering room made with everything but 2 stink flower system i need to make. After my first harvest im goin to add the co2 and A.c.
Nice! That is good news! Keep us posted...
Milton187
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Thanks LionsRoor!
I will post some new pics tomorrow after work.
Here are some of one plant I cut some buds to keep me pacified!
Milt
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Amoeba
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I just built two of the clone units today, 13 sites in each, due to me not having tons of height I cannot run a veg unit but will use one for clones and one for moms/extra cuts.
Vacation next week for 7 days and then I'm finishing my flower unit. I need a good res, low to the ground - I'm still looking.
Almost there, once this vacation is done I will be a stinkbuddy finally!
Vacation next week for 7 days and then I'm finishing my flower unit. I need a good res, low to the ground - I'm still looking.
Almost there, once this vacation is done I will be a stinkbuddy finally!
mindphuk
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When I saw you were considering a chiller, I was about to hit reply then I noticed you answered your own problem. I just couldn't imagine why you would spend hundreds of dollars on a chiller, but didn't spend the $80 on the timer which would have solved your problem. the reason your water temps are that high is because the pump running and heating the water for 15 minutes, but it seems you figured it out. Great job on those clones. Don't you just get this huge sense of satisfaction when something like this goes so well?
Oh, I was wondering, I was told with Zone you don't need H2O2. Do you know what Zone really is and do you think that the peroxide in addition is helping? Have you tried Zone by itself? I have been using it in my DWC, but now that I'm going over to Stink's system, I was thinking I wouldn't need it anymore but you make a good point about the cloner. It would possibly help me extend the cleaning. It seems I have been able to go a few weeks, but there is gunk up in the lid by the time my clones are rooted and ready to move.
Picasso345
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Colorful buds. So glad to hear about the absence of bugs.
AverageJohnDoe
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The chiller will be for the flower setup. Sucks I can't use it to chill multiple reservoirs due to different nute requirements. So I am hoping running the pump for a short time (~1 min) will help keep the temps below 80. I have some bubble buckets going and they are black and just a air stone in them, and the temps are close to 80. It is hot where I am and it isn't even summer. I like the cloner being in the 80s (I think the higher temp helps with fast roots), as long as I can keep the funk controlled. But I would like my plants to be in 65-70deg water, and if just sitting water is close to 80 without a pump, I am almost certain an investment in a small chiller would be necessary. Just because the funk isn't growing doesn't mean the water temp is ideal.
No, the h2o2 shouldn't be needed with the DM Zone. I just put a couple caps in a few days after the setup was running with some cuts, just to keep the water fresh. About to change the water. Last summer a few bubble buckets did want to get a little smelly even with just the Zone, I am not really 100% satisfied with the product. It works, but I think there are better. I plan on ordering something else soon. (This is why I plan on buying a $300-400 chiller, the price is small if it will completely get rid of the high temps and the main reason the funk grows in the first place. Why band-aid the problem when you can prevent it from happening?) I tried organic nutes the first time I attempted to grow and the funk really seemed to feed on the the stuff in it and rapidly reproduced. Getting rid of the organics helped a lot, I eventually want to go back to organic though.
I took another peek when the lights came back on, and another has popped roots and others are showing the nubs.
I have successfully cloned more plants these past 6 days than I have in the past 2 years.
Shrike
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Hey LionsRoor...what is the size (gal.'s & dimensions) of the reservoir you are using for your 3 post flower unit?