Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

cowboyframer

cowboyframer

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Donk said:
To fit my room I am gonna make 3 units with 3 rails 42 inchs long with 6 sites per rail. What size pump should I use? Will the 396gph pump still be fine cause there will be 18 ez clone sprayers vs the 14 in the orginal design. ]


I was wondering if anyone knows how many gpm are needed for each sprayer, because I plan to build this system with 3 rails and 9 sites a rail for a total of 30 sprayers. I believe I can go to a bigger pump because the res I plan to use
is larger, but if I need to I will add a chiller or even larger res. I just don't want to over kill the pump size.

Thanks :peace:
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cowboyframer

cowboyframer

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dagobaker said:
ive always learned that light equals bud...........but..........at what point is that overkill?.........i dont think u need a 1000 watter for each stink bud system...its 4 foot long and 2 to 3 foot wide with the growth......
a 1000 hps will easily light a 5 by 5 but in reality a 6 by 6 area.......i dont have mine air cooled......so i could not do that
i have 6 stink bud flower and 2 veg units (still building) being used as sog flowering units under 2600 hps watts.......and i think its enough
i was curious about stinks yield from the 2000 watts to the 3000 watts......i know he said the bottom buds were much fatter
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I agree with you 1000 seems like alot for a stink sized system but I believe that it would also spread light on to the plants in the systems next to it.

For my system I am making my rails longer and my in between spacing a little farther a part, plus I plan on mounting my 1000's on light rails.

These are just some ideas I've put together from reading this thread and SOG's insano grow.

Mad Props to you guys Stink and SOG F-ing rule

Please give me your thoughts.
Thanks :peace:
 
andyman

andyman

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cowboyframer said:
Donk said:
To fit my room I am gonna make 3 units with 3 rails 42 inchs long with 6 sites per rail. What size pump should I use? Will the 396gph pump still be fine cause there will be 18 ez clone sprayers vs the 14 in the orginal design. ]


I was wondering if anyone knows how many gpm are needed for each sprayer, because I plan to build this system with 3 rails and 9 sites a rail for a total of 30 sprayers. I believe I can go to a bigger pump because the res I plan to use
is larger, but if I need to I will add a chiller or even larger res. I just don't want to over kill the pump size.

Thanks :peace:
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25 gph
for most sprayers, some Ive bought off ebay for greenhouses that are supose to mist seem to take more pressure. But for the standard heads is 25 gph. hope this helps :joint:
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andyman

andyman

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DIRTHAWKER said:
To all you newcomers..welcome aboard the Stink revolution!

You guys with the pics are blowing away every other grow method out there.

Heres some bud porn too! This harvest is going to be insane! the colas are so big they are laying down all over the place. Ive had to tie them up and lay them over..etc, etc.. good thing i only have 5 days to flush before there done.
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looks good dirthawker
What strain is that? looks pretty sativa:peace::joint:
 
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NewHiddenGrower

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dagobaker said:
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here is a pic of one of my 600 hps with 2 units under them
(dont mind the bud in the middle..i was finishing some hempy 1 gallon plants before the new plants took off...free light lol)
i yielded 22 oz from 1/2 of what u see
if i keep up with this unit u see there is no reason i cant yield 40 oz total from it
this unit is about 2 weeks into 12/12....see the plants starting to flower
my romulus is about a 10 weeker
ps.....ive raised the light about 8 inches since i took this......damn things grow like crazy when u give the veg nutes for the first 2 weeks
greatest system on earth :)
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very efficient, but if your total harvest from both system is 22oz you cant say you only used 300watts unless one of the system yielded 22oz itself.
anyways thats still very good maybe you should upgrade to a 1000watt hps and compare the results


My Pros for this system

-Extremely fast growth rate.
-Inexpensive
-Less water used compared to other systems
-Root Rot disease free

My Cons
-Sprayers can get clogged and your plants can suffer major stress or even death
-Relies too much on the water pump.
-Takes up too much room so you cant put a lot of them in 1 normal size bedroom
-does not have a lot of room for plants to get big
-Avg 1-2oz per plant

My DWC 5 buckets avg 3-5 oz each bucket. And i can fit 25 buckets in 10x10 room
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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Donk said:
To fit my room I am gonna make 3 units with 3 rails 42 inchs long with 6 sites per rail. What size pump should I use? Will the 396gph pump still be fine cause there will be 18 ez clone sprayers vs the 14 in the orginal design.

Been trying to read through to see if someone else has done already but only at page 100 so far.

Got the Veg Unit up and running for a week now and I love it.
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ur making 3 units with 3 rails each.....
so total of 9 - 4 foot rails?
i use a 396 pump for every 2 rails...but i started putting 10 misters in each rail
i would go with the bigger pump...600(not sure what it was exact) u want more power if possible......i like overkill so there is more spraying and less chance of clogging
im currenly building a 3 rail 6 foot each post system.....using the 600+ pump
i think 3 600 hps would be a great idea too
 
imburne

imburne

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NewHiddenGrower why do you keep posting on dwc? We all know where to look for that info and this topic isn't for that. Keep on track people! Improving the Stinkbud system or stfu! Respectfully.

Now here is a nice solution to ripping apart a mini fridge.. Much cleaner.. I was thinking of making one last night but for the price... Might as well just buy one.. I am using the smaller res though.. :)

http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_AquariumPage~PageAlias~chillers_coolworks_iceprobe.html

$100 bucks.. :)
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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NewHiddenGrower said:
very efficient, but if your total harvest from both system is 22oz you cant say you only used 300watts unless one of the system yielded 22oz itself.
anyways thats still very good maybe you should upgrade to a 1000watt hps and compare the results


My Pros for this system

-Extremely fast growth rate.
-Inexpensive
-Less water used compared to other systems
-Root Rot disease free

My Cons
-Sprayers can get clogged and your plants can suffer major stress or even death
-Relies too much on the water pump.
-Takes up too much room so you cant put a lot of them in 1 normal size bedroom
-does not have a lot of room for plants to get big
-Avg 1-2oz per plant

My DWC 5 buckets avg 3-5 oz each bucket. And i can fit 25 buckets in 10x10 room
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what the hell is this guy talking about
?
i have a perpetual grow going
i normally harvest only 1 system at a time unless they finish at the same time and then i add 2
my 22 oz was from 1/2 of the 600 hps light
OK?>>>>>>>>>>>::LLL>>????????????
the one i took the pic of was started at the same time and is doing amazingly well
i would think that if all goes well the massive buds ill get COULD be 40 oz total or 20 oz off of each unit ok?
do i need to explain myself more?
i range from 12.5 to 22 oz so i dont have it tweaked quite yet......once i get the genetics worked out (like stink buds...he was getting 16 and then after picking his best strains he got 27)
if i can get 20 oz or more off of a 1/2 of a 600 hps or 300 used hps how can i do any better?......ive grown dwc and its not as good as this system
i harvested 8 plants using half my 4 x 4 area so thats 300 watts and yielded 22oz or just under 3 oz per plant
i got 2.06 grams per watt......and didnt have to mess with any medium at all
just test the unit every 3 days after adding more phed water and adjust with the stinkbud botanicare coctail..very easy btw and smells great
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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one thing to consider......im still a noob grower too.......still trying different strains and deciding which are best
this system will get the best out of any strain u can imagine......im growing 7 different strains through the aero and they are performing great
if u like dwc......great do it
i actually have 5 dwc units inbetween my 4 aero units since i have some unused space.....ill find out the difference in about 7 weeks about the yield difference
there are growers i assume that can do much better than me with this unit or others.......but.........how many people in the cannabis would complain about yielding 2.06 grams per watt used?.........not many
i always thought 1 gram per watt was the best anyone could do.....now i know i can hit 2 if im perfect
 
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deeweromekoms

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Please do the math.
the eco 396 draws 0.3W, so with a 1050 battery back up, see attachment for run time chart

http://www.tripplite.com/shared/techdoc/Runtime-Chart/SMART1050SLT.pdf All runtime values are in minutes.

So one could run, lets say 5 pumps for a total of 1.5 W with the given 1 up, 5 down schedule, in excess of 1600 minutes, which is how many WEEKS??????
Lighting is a different issue, but not nearly as immediate. Nor is dealing with malfunctioning pumps......
The magic words here are "triple redudancy"
Regarding the overall system, consider this: high performance requires hi maintenance. It's not for everyone.
 
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deeweromekoms

Active Member
Yow said:
This is a good design but, It has a major drawback:

- AC Power. If you lose power, you have minutes to deal with how to feed/water your plants. They will die quickly.
With Ebb and Flow systems you have plenty of time and can hand feed. Murphys law says this will occur.

UPS systems die quickly trying to fire up those timers and pumps every 5 minutes so, that is not practical.
Generators? No thanks. That's for huge commercial grows.

Flood trays and tanks. Simple. Many plants in 4 inch pots moving from Prop-Clone to Veg to Flower areas and time zones.
Use Co2 and stay on PH and PPM readings and you'll be great. Three areas, Three time zones with the CO2 in Veg and Flower areas.

If possible, 3 homeboxes and 1ea 2 ft HO rig, 1 400 LED from haightsolidstate.com for Veg and their 800 for flowering.

Yow.
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OOps previous post in response to this.
 
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sssdad

Active Member
newhiddengrower said:
the system is good, but no stinkbud's system does not blow every system away. I have 3 600 watts on a light mover with 25 buckets dwc and i yielded 5 lb off master kush from nirvana.

Stinkbud is the most simple system out there for a new grower though! I started out with it. Yield 14 oz each unit without co2 and with 600watt hps only.

So you can compare. Each unit needs 1 600watt for 1 pound avg. So 3 lights = 3 pounds. You also dont have to worry about a sprayer clogging or the pump failing.

I have 25 buckets with 3 600watts and i get 5 lb. So you see? Dwc is better than small aeroponic set up.
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so your still flowering for what 10 weeks? Or more? I just pulled 2lbs off 15 plants and have 21 more ready in 3-4 weeks. So in 8 weeks i should have what u have in 10-12 weeks. What i am saying is if you are flowering your complete system you have to wait every 10-12 weeks and you get 5lbs. With this system i pull the same amount in the same time with smaller plants. And who wants to trim 5lbs at a time 2lbs takes long enough.
 
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irnameless

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hey stink,
wow...impressive...hey was wondering..am setting up a room...any chance of getting...plans for how to build your 3 separate Aero/NFT flower systems?...i have the room...with perfect temp...have 1 hps 1000 and 1 90 wat ufo...also cloning plans...thanks so much
 
jaxon1080

jaxon1080

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irnameless said:
hey stink,
wow...impressive...hey was wondering..am setting up a room...any chance of getting...plans for how to build your 3 separate Aero/NFT flower systems?...i have the room...with perfect temp...have 1 hps 1000 and 1 90 wat ufo...also cloning plans...thanks so much
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answer above
 
andyman

andyman

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deeweromekoms said:
Please do the math.
the eco 396 draws 0.3W, so with a 1050 battery back up, see attachment for run time chart

http://www.tripplite.com/shared/techdoc/Runtime-Chart/SMART1050SLT.pdf All runtime values are in minutes.

So one could run, lets say 5 pumps for a total of 1.5 W with the given 1 up, 5 down schedule, in excess of 1600 minutes, which is how many WEEKS??????
Lighting is a different issue, but not nearly as immediate. Nor is dealing with malfunctioning pumps......
The magic words here are "triple redudancy"
Regarding the overall system, consider this: high performance requires hi maintenance. It's not for everyone.
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I belive thats after started .3w
I cant remember amp/watts how that works but there are initial start up amps drawn more than after there running. I still think that they dont use much but you might want to figure this into your calculation for the ups.
just my 2pennys
:peace::joint:
 
dagobaker

dagobaker

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what size of ups will i need for 8 of those 396 pumps...and how many for 10?....biggest they sell?
right now im kinda going without
 
andyman

andyman

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probbly the biggest you can afford. Thats something that wouldnt hurt if you overkilled.== bigger is better lol
 
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