Has anybody heard of/ran moxie seeds?

Any more experience from anybody with lucky number slevin or turquoise jeep? Seems like everybody on here tried the same four or five strains lol I'm hoping for better luck with these two

Got 6 beans of kookies waiting to pop. It's been 36hrs with no signs of life yet...

i usually have very good germ rates, i had a pack of gg x goji which all 12 germed fine, but i had 6/12 germ for my goji haze, really small looking seeds, had many other seeds germ'd at the same time with the same method and got 98-99% successful germination not including the bad germination for the goji haze, hope i get a female from those 6 and also some females from the 12x gg x goji and i'll report my findings, maybe they just had a 'bad' batch of seeds and many were small and weak but they sold them anyway who knows, hopefully i'll be in for a treat tho

So none of my kookies popped. What do?

ThaMagnificent said:

So none of my kookies popped. What do?

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If they never fracked maybe they need to be scuffed or sliced with razor down edge to help crack. I e had a couple crosses do this on me would literally not crack after days of trying to germ and slice with razor on the edge resoak and they crack open. Some crosses have some really really hard beans that need help. I also do paper towel method with seeds I know are like this and set on my cable box for the warmth. Helps tough ones germ

akhiymjames said:

If they never fracked maybe they need to be scuffed or sliced with razor down edge to help crack. I e had a couple crosses do this on me would literally not crack after days of trying to germ and slice with razor on the edge resoak and they crack open. Some crosses have some really really hard beans that need help. I also do paper towel method with seeds I know are like this and set on my cable box for the warmth. Helps tough ones germ

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Yea I do the paper towel method too. I'm also germing some fruit punch and the MWS GSC and all those have long ass tap roots already.

Which edge do I take the razor to? The seam in the middle between the 2 sides of the shell?

ThaMagnificent said:

Yea I do the paper towel method too. I'm also germing some fruit punch and the MWS GSC and all those have long ass tap roots already.

Which edge do I take the razor to? The seam in the middle between the 2 sides of the shell?

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Yea I take the razor to the side where the both meet but will slice around the sides of it too just in case it can't crack from there

ThaMagnificent said:

Yea I do the paper towel method too. I'm also germing some fruit punch and the MWS GSC and all those have long ass tap roots already.

Which edge do I take the razor to? The seam in the middle between the 2 sides of the shell?

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Just also seen another post my bro @BigLittlejohn posted and it said try using emery board too. That should be good to use too if no sandpaper to scuff

Yea an emory board is perfect. It is the perfect size to handle the bean gently.

BigLittlejohn said:

Yea an emory board is perfect. It is the perfect size to handle the bean gently.

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emery board LOL. So scientific! Just call it a nail file!

akhiymjames said:

Yea I take the razor to the side where the both meet but will slice around the sides of it too just in case it can't crack from there

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James you must have the steady hands & eyes of a brain surgeon to cut the seed like that? my clumsy fingers cant do that or scuff beans..just too damn small to hold on to, so its just the ideal germination conditions such as warmth & dampness i can use...if they dont germ then then....

greencropper said:

James you must have the steady hands & eyes of a brain surgeon to cut the seed like that? my clumsy fingers cant do that or scuff beans..just too damn small to hold on to, so its just the ideal germination conditions such as warmth & dampness i can use...if they dont germ then then....

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Lol naw not really if you can hold bean over the sharp razor and just move it across it should do. Hell I've heard people that crack them with their teeth slightly lol. I couldn't do that would crush everyone of them

ThaMagnificent said:

emery board LOL. So scientific! Just call it a nail file!

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Not to be a pedantic asshole but they are two different things. The nail file has the emory piece to it but is typically metal and pointed on one end. The emory board is all wood with the low grade sand paper built into it. Either will work to scuff seeds though. lol

... And neither are necessary.. Scuffing seeds is a completely unnecessary practice

kermit2692 said:

... And neither are necessary.. Scuffing seeds is a completely unnecessary practice

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Do tell the secret bro and I'm being serious. I have run into seeds that won't crack unless scuffed or sliced so any tips would be very helpful. I'm not really a fan of heat may have heard too many seedlings getting fried and I don't wanna take that chance.

I don't scuff them until they have been in paper towels for a few days with no visible progress. I've found cracked beans 24 hours later.

I mustve tossed a dozen or so beans without first trying to scuff them. I sometimes wonder how many were viable...

Threw them out. Nothing popped since Sunday. Screw moxie

I bought a pack of the Viper City OG 13, have the grow journaled here and it was one of the best grows I've done. I only bought 5 seeds and they have each popped perfectly for me in a paper towel and in some heat.

Here's a start to finish one I did a few months ago
https://www.rollitup.org/t/viper-city-og-under-300-watt-led.909760/#post-12709823



And here is my new one, also Moxie Viper City OG 13- https://www.rollitup.org/t/moxie-viper-city-og-13-16.920111-heavy-16.920111/

akhiymjames said:

Do tell the secret bro and I'm being serious. I have run into seeds that won't crack unless scuffed or sliced so any tips would be very helpful. I'm not really a fan of heat may have heard too many seedlings getting fried and I don't wanna take that chance.

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Well... Idk lol...i have a high ninety something percent success rate without doing that. Only beans not to crack in last five grows - th seeds hog freebie, one of six g13 giga bud, and a couple white skunk out of an olllld pack. Maybe had to do with methods, maybe had to do with will power. If you believe something must happen, enter your mind into it, it will happen hence the placebo effect, double slit experiment, etc. I go into germination believing the most seeds I can get that won't pop is one. Except the old pack I had thoughts like maybe they are expired maybe only some pop and sure enough...

Im new to this forum and i know im a little late but i started my first outdoor grow this year with grape kush from moxie. It was a good strain i like it but i did find a few seeds here and there total of like 4. The smoke is nice and its super stoney. Im still learning and what not so im still new. Here is a pic of the grape kush from this years harvest. Some asshole even snuck back to my garden and snipped some tops (i know newbie mistake lesson learned). I got a pound off one plant (this was after i got jacked by a ripper). Thinking of trying some thug pug genetics since i follow him on Instagram and hes a pretty cool guy who has crazy looking bud .