has anyone ever tryed using suger as their carbs let me now

PeyoteReligion

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***** Simple carbohydrates or simple sugars – These carbs are broken down and digested very quickly, but most simple carbs contain refined sugars and very few essential vitamins and minerals. Examples include table sugar, fruit juice, milk, yogurt, honey, molasses, maple syrup and brown sugar.
*****Complex carbohydrates – The complex carbs take longer to digest and are packed with fiber, vitamins and minerals. Examples include vegetables, whole grain breads, oatmeal, legumes, brown rice and wheat pasta.
 

skinitti666

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it was a typo bro i just didnt go back and edit i was say baking powder has carbs also my bad dog my bad
 

PeyoteReligion

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As far as plants go they don't take in carbohydrates they convert INTO carbohydrates within the plant, used to create chloraphyll.
 

PeyoteReligion

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Oh said that wrong. Chlorophyll, which gives plants their green color, enables them to use sunlight to convert water and carbon dioxide into sugars and carbohydrates, chemicals the cell uses for fuel. I had it backwards :)
 
While they do make their own sugars for energy, plants are capable of using many simple carbs in the soil if needed, converting them into the types of sugars they use, like fructose. When a plant is growing quickly, carbs in the soil can be helpful, but too much can cause all kinds of problems like undesirable fungal growth, insect infestations and in some cases, nutrient lock-out (via acidifying the root environment or high levels of certain nutrients found in molasses,) for instance. I have used small amounts of unsulphured blackstrap molasses, usually well diluted in water, with no obvious problems. It can also be useful for encouraging healthy microbes in addition to allowing a fast growing, healthy plant to convert some into its own sugars, however, its high in calcium and iron so one should always take that into consideration. A little can go a long way. Best if used with a high carbon additive, like fulvic or humic acid, in an organic tea product to facilitate and speed up the growth of microbe colonies. This should always be done in a well aerated environment (typically 24-48 hours under moderate temps). When added straight to the soil I think its best to ere on the side of caution and keep it in small doses here and there... I would not add molasses to hydro grows (though I believe some organic-hydro nutrient formulas do use molasses, likely processed in some way to minimize possible problems). Molasses tends to 'gunk things up' in the reservoir, pumps and tubes and in higher concentrations might really throw off the established balance of nutrients....
 

potpimp

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Carbohydrate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbohydrate
In general, the monosaccharides and disaccharides, which are smaller (lower molecular weight) carbohydrates, are commonly referred to as sugars--------> YOU SIR ARE RETARDED. (potpimp) Not you get your grow on, you might be on to something...but probably not. Stick to your 0-0-8 beet molasses works fine for veggin'. GL!
You're flaming a moderator (big-time against the rules here Einstein) here and you're calling me retarded??? So using Wiki makes you a friggin' genius? I don't think so homey. You just got started out here on a very bad note.

Simple carbohydrates
Simple carbohydrates are also known as sugars. They also exist in either a natural or refined form.
Natural sugars are found in fruit and vegetables.

C'mon potpimp, you know better man.
Sorry man, it was a brain fart. For some reason I was thinking of "complex carbs" such as rice & potatoes. Simple sugars never crossed my mind. It's been 30 years since my college chemistry and medical / biology classes and I haven't used what I learned much since then. Thanks for the correction.
 

stbwolfe

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This always confuses me..... I am a botany major at CSU and I have asked several biology professors whether products like this work. They all tell me that plants cannot take up carbohydrates from the soil. Plants create all carbs they need from CO2 + H20 and light energy. The only way I could see this being a benefit is that the micros in the soil have to eat carbs for energy, and maybe it supports the plants mychorrizal infection and helps the plant uptake nutrients
 

Sensibowl

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Meh. Molasses is not the best choice, for me anyway.

I like that folks are talking about carbs in plants though, since that's a vital part of growing.

I've been reading and rereading this thing from Advanced Nutrients and the thing that stands out is that while carbs are produced by plants on their own, you still need to have additional carbs in order to boost your grow.

Here's what I learned, if you have the best nutrient levels, light, and carbon dioxide, you probably don't need to add more carbs, but since no grower can be that perfect in a grow - or maybe that's just me, LOL - it always helsp out to add more carbs to your MMJ grow.

Now, what I also learned from the white paper, or whatever they called it, was that molasses isn't all bad. Really. I thought it was just crap to use in growing, but apparently I'm wrong. And I should have realized it since so many people talk about it.

But in the end, I stick to using things like Big Bud and Bud Candy for my grows.

Here's the paper, if anyone has the time to read it and learn something. :)

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/whitepapers/Do_Carbohydrate_Supplements_Really_Produce_Bigger_Yields_And_Root_Systems_In_Hydroponic_Gardens.pdf
 
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