Having problem germinating seeds

danjac82 said:

I’d argue that paper towels cause more problems for beginners than they help solve.

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Agreed, and even when it goes well, what’s our first move once it has sprouted? Tear it away from the very spot it has taken root, thereby stressing it as it goes into soil.
Instead,

-Soak seeds in a cup of warm water - ideally coconut water from a freshly opened coco not a can.
- rinse and replace the water every 12 hours until tap root pokes it’s way open
- having already prepared the cup or pot into which the seed will grow, pour out the water, and the seeds onto a plate very gently. I use surgical forceps with electrical shrink wrap insulation on the tips to handle my sprouting seeds, but if your good with chopsticks, go for it. Needle nose pliers work, but don’t squeeze tightly
- Create a tiny depression in the soil about 1/4” deep with one of those chopsticks.
- Carefully place your sprout ROOT END UP. Drizzle with loose soil to barely cover it up. Spray moisture. Leave it alone. Keep moist but not wet.
Keep lights high and allow your seedlings to grow into them. Enjoy your harvest.

this was a great thread to read with alot of good info on India & landraces. And quite funny due to the "auto/hybrid/hydro"-confusion

Avinash said:

Is autos resistant to cold weather

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usually yes... the auto genetic trait stems from central asia/russia where cannabis ruderalis had to adopt to cold weather under short days.
therefore *some* autos dislike heavy nutritients or heat.
however, this is also very strain-dependant.

Avinash said:

Is epsom salts good for flowering

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very good, esp. in flower. Mg is needed to fatten buds, and S for terpene production (ripening in late flower). You should give a bit more Epsom in mid-to-late flower, if you want to the buds to fatten, also increase P & K. This is for fast flowering indica.
On your landraces which flower for 6 months you shouldnt overdue it and start a bit earlier on because these type of plants grow buds very slowly but steadily.

Avinash said:

Do you know any method to apply only potassium and phosphorus organically

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for extra Potassium u could add used coffee powder to your compost or wormbin.
phosphorus: bone meal, chicken dung

Mitchician said:

also don't care about people who say it's such a waste of time to grow silly little plants like this. The value of this plant was to gain experience, to use in the future, something many people don't know how to do these days.

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so true... esp. on a new strain or a new hardware, when one doesnt know the outcome yet. after a tiny run one can set up a big run much more confidently

Avinash said:

But clay soil is good for other plants right my landraces are thriving in clay soil

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Avinash said:

Although these hybrid seeds are more complicated man compared to my local stuff it is easy to

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clay isnt that good, it prevents airation "breething" of the roots.
you cannot compare your landraces with these high-bred dutch or american genetics. these need optimal conditions or become sick.
landraces dont suffer from inbreeding - they draw from a much greater genepool and also are already adapted to your climate ...

I used to have problems with seeds too....I would have to germ 3 or 4 for one seed lol. Yea I was that bad. I have switched to this method and I have had only one seed out of about 50 not pop using this method. The only thing I change is when I need to put in a plastic bag and paper towel. I make sure it goes on top of my modem box.

Kassiopeija said:

this was a great thread to read with alot of good info on India & landraces. And quite funny due to the "auto/hybrid/hydro"-confusion


usually yes... the auto genetic trait stems from central asia/russia where cannabis ruderalis had to adopt to cold weather under short days.
therefore *some* autos dislike heavy nutritients or heat.
however, this is also very strain-dependant.


very good, esp. in flower. Mg is needed to fatten buds, and S for terpene production (ripening in late flower). You should give a bit more Epsom in mid-to-late flower, if you want to the buds to fatten, also increase P & K. This is for fast flowering indica.
On your landraces which flower for 6 months you shouldnt overdue it and start a bit earlier on because these type of plants grow buds very slowly but steadily.


for extra Potassium u could add used coffee powder to your compost or wormbin.
phosphorus: bone meal, chicken dung


so true... esp. on a new strain or a new hardware, when one doesnt know the outcome yet. after a tiny run one can set up a big run much more confidently



clay isnt that good, it prevents airation "breething" of the roots.
you cannot compare your landraces with these high-bred dutch or american genetics. these need optimal conditions or become sick.
landraces dont suffer from inbreeding - they draw from a much greater genepool and also are already adapted to your climate ...

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Then If i grow hybrid photoperiods outdoors here can they sustain our environment??? I cannot maintain humidity and bugs except that i can give them everything good amount of sunlight and slow release organic fertilizers

Avinash said:

Yeah I plan to use a little coffee grounds today to increase N

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a good source of N is if you throw green leaves in a pot with water and let it rest for a week or 2, to make a flurry/south. This can be done by very different plants also in order to give a source of Si (to prevent fungus)

Avinash said:

Can you suggest any for my next balcony stealth grow both hybrid and landrace

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One of the basic problems of your tropical climate is the high air humidity (rH). Alot of highbred bignug indoors strains will simply rot away. That's why your landrace looks like it looks - its an adaptation of what works under your conditions.

I wouldn't recommend autos at all to you - if anything goes wrong, you'll be left with plants that are 10-30cm small. That's good for a stealth grow but you'll need proper lightmixed soil (or an allmix with perlite).

Basically all you need is your landrace-type with a shortened flowering time (so buds can fatten+ripen under your strong summer sun).
Take a look at K.C. Brains portfolio, he has very cheap seeds (1€/seed on Samenwahl.com) that contain alot of phenotypes which mostly are crosses from exotic landraces x dutchfastflowering. Most of his plants arent good for indoors, and they're nowhere near frosty as the trendy types, but most his outdoor strains can become monsters.

Also, the original cup-winning "Mango" is from him, which should be mostly-indica but also contains sativa genes:

4.10m [!] high in a rivervalley under weak german sun.

KC actually breeds/ selects his own plants according to fastflowering and getting big buds, then uses the males to cross them with landraces but doesn't stabilize the pool. So basically when you buy a pack of regs you'll still find plants that bear these thai/brazil/kush/etc-landrace traits (some of these would be the perfect plant for your condition - imagine your landrace finishing in est. flowering time 10-14 weeks) or you'll get something out of his KCxxx lines which are mostly hybrid nicely smelling plants with 8-10 weeks flowering time with much less leaves and bigger buds than landraces.

So there would be anything for you in it if you just have the space to run a given number of plants.
Some indoor impressions under 600w HPS

2nd week flower, notice typical sativa in the foreground, hybrid background left (notice broader leaves, less leafy, more pistils), typical indica to the right background, very thin stems yet...


this brazil-landrace phenotype from Rio de Janeiro looks somewhat similar in budstructure than yours


after 7 weeks under 600w HPS


have fun

Avinash said:

Then If i grow hybrid photoperiods outdoors here can they sustain our environment??? I cannot maintain humidity and bugs except that i can give them everything good amount of sunlight and slow release organic fertilizers

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thats the big question I guess no one can answer, you'll have to try out. There's some ways to counter mold (look up Silica, can be derived organically from plants as well) but if buds are so thick and humidity goes up esp. when the night arrives and all surfaces get wet... that's a growers nightmare tbh....

one good thing you could do is to do your own crosses (fastflowering indica vs your shevallera landrace) to get something that can withstand your climate. That could be fun to experiment with^^

Then i will run Gelat og fem this year and see what happens

For

Kassiopeija said:

this was a great thread to read with alot of good info on India & landraces. And quite funny due to the "auto/hybrid/hydro"-confusion


usually yes... the auto genetic trait stems from central asia/russia where cannabis ruderalis had to adopt to cold weather under short days.
therefore *some* autos dislike heavy nutritients or heat.
however, this is also very strain-dependant.


very good, esp. in flower. Mg is needed to fatten buds, and S for terpene production (ripening in late flower). You should give a bit more Epsom in mid-to-late flower, if you want to the buds to fatten, also increase P & K. This is for fast flowering indica.
On your landraces which flower for 6 months you shouldnt overdue it and start a bit earlier on because these type of plants grow buds very slowly but steadily.


for extra Potassium u could add used coffee powder to your compost or wormbin.
phosphorus: bone meal, chicken dung


so true... esp. on a new strain or a new hardware, when one doesnt know the outcome yet. after a tiny run one can set up a big run much more confidently



clay isnt that good, it prevents airation "breething" of the roots.
you cannot compare your landraces with these high-bred dutch or american genetics. these need optimal conditions or become sick.
landraces dont suffer from inbreeding - they draw from a much greater genepool and also are already adapted to your climate ...

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Chicken dung should be dried or fresh??? For phosphorus

Avinash said:

Chicken dung should be dried or fresh??? For phosphorus

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both works. but please take notice of the fact that itll also contain a large portion of N and other stuff. Also, its more "sharp" than most other dung.

Avinash said:

I have been keeping pots outdoors in day and indoors at night when I keep outdoors it will get dry very fast so I have keep watering. Does watering frequently affects germination???

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KEEP plants either outside or inside. Unless you want gnats and bugs in your house.

Couch_Lock said:

KEEP plants either outside or inside. Unless you want gnats and bugs in your house.

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I harvested them already
Check out this thread

Avinash said:

watch this

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that was a nice cinematic to watch, really cool guys. First thing to do upon arrival: smoking pipe ))))
so this slim guy is Arjan who branded Arjans Haze?
so much beautifil nature and these incredible fields... so many different smells - one plant even smelled like salami lolwtf...

Kassiopeija said:

that was a nice cinematic to watch, really cool guys. First thing to do upon arrival: smoking pipe ))))
so this slim guy is Arjan who branded Arjans Haze?
so much beautifil nature and these incredible fields... so many different smells - one plant even smelled like salami lolwtf...

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Actually they got only a number of landrace breeds but here we get thousands of nature bred landraces strains. Every score will be diff strains even if they collect seeds to grow next year the pheno type will have many variations

Avinash said:

I watered when the seed are planted and I have watered 4 times since I was keeping it outside and it was drying up rapidly like in 2 to 3 hrs

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Make sure you lift the pot to check just the top being dry doesn't mean it needs to be watered

Avinash said:

Hey I started my first grow Pineapple express auto and gorilla grow auto in 19L 5gallon 75% fill in which 40% Soil and 60% organic compost soil. It's been 1 and half day seeds have not sprouted in soil I followed old germination process which I planted the seed directly in soil and watered any suggestions on germination

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By the way pineapple Express is an amazing strain you're going to love it high-yielding easy to grow an amazing high

Sfrigon 1 said:

By the way pineapple Express is an amazing strain you're going to love it high-yielding easy to grow an amazing high

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Yeah man very tasty and potent strain i already harvested and stored few buds for next month Shivaratri festival

Avinash said:

Actually they got only a number of landrace breeds but here we get thousands of nature bred landraces strains. Every score will be diff strains even if they collect seeds to grow next year the pheno type will have many variations

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yes thats true, actually they already made a gross selection in that field (they sort of knew already what to look for) but a landraces strength stems from having multiple different genotypes. So it can adapt to different situations and thus, survive from year to year.
These breeders usually try to isolate specific traits, cross them in and then stabilize it.
However, this whole process can impoverish the final plants genepool so over time, they need foreign genetic material.
Thats why I think your own landrace you have there in Mysore is indeed interesting.

Kassiopeija said:

yes thats true, actually they already made a gross selection in that field (they sort of knew already what to look for) but a landraces strength stems from having multiple different genotypes. So it can adapt to different situations and thus, survive from year to year.
These breeders usually try to isolate specific traits, cross them in and then stabilize it.
However, this whole process can impoverish the final plants genepool so over time, they need foreign genetic material.
Thats why I think your own landrace you have there in Mysore is indeed interesting.

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Did you googled Mysore mango??? From feb end the cannabis season starts man our country mainly my state will produce millions of strains every smoker will have diff kinds of strains, buds and hashes till July so no prob if i run out of buds after July cannabis is like gold man they will spray chemicals to half grown plants and sell it is the worst man

yeah in that article its states police is spraying "weedicide" into some areas. Guess this shit is more dangerous to humans animals nature than weed could ever be

Kassiopeija said:

yeah in that article its states police is spraying "weedicide" into some areas. Guess this shit is more dangerous to humans animals nature than weed could ever be

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Not only cops growers and peddlers spray shoe polishes, rat poisons etc