Health Canada to allow safety testing of medical marijuana

VIANARCHRIS

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Health Canada is easing its prohibitions against safety testing of medical marijuana, which will allow registered growers and patients to have the product scrutinized at federally certified laboratories to ensure it is safe.

The federal government plans to legalize marijuana for recreational use next year, and the move will give added protection in an unregulated market to consumers, many of whom worry that some marijuana being sold as medicine could contain harmful contaminants.

Hundreds of storefront dispensaries have sprung up across the country, particularly in Toronto and Vancouver. The government considers them illegal, and had no oversight of their products, leaving medical users with no way to ensure their safety. The government did not allow patients access to federal labs capable of detecting potentially harmful contaminants.

“In recognition of the health and safety value of testing, the department is currently working to enable registered persons to access testing services for their own dried or fresh marijuana or cannabis oil,” Health Canada spokesman Eric Morrissette said in an e-mail. “This would enable individuals to have more information about the potency of the strains they are producing (i.e. THC and CBD levels), as well as information about any contaminants (e.g. heavy metals, microbial) or residues in their product.”

The shift follows a Globe and Mail investigation into the contents of marijuana from nine unregulated Toronto dispensaries. Tests showed that three of nine samples of dried cannabis would not meet Health Canada’s safety standards for licensed growers – with one strain showing signs of potentially harmful yeasts and mould. That investigation also revealed that labs have been warned not to test samples provided by anyone other than a licensed producer – a threat taken so seriously that the lab that tested for The Globe did so on condition that the newspaper would not identify it.

Much of the marijuana supplied to the dispensaries is suspected to come from the thousands of home growers who were licensed under a system that pre-dated efforts by the former Conservative government to force patients to turn to a handful of commercial producers. As the fight against that restriction progressed through the courts, those previously licensed home-growers were granted rolling injunctions to continue producing their own pot, sometimes in single crops of more than 100 plants each.

On Thursday, Health Canada said it is providing “an immediate solution” to a Federal Court ruling earlier this year that a ban on home-grown marijuana violated a patient’s Charter right to life, liberty and security of the person and ordered the federal government to make the drug more accessible and affordable.

Under the new regime, which takes effect on Aug. 24, patients who consume a gram a day – about the average prescription, according to Health Canada – can expect to be allowed to grow about two plants outdoors or five indoors (the two environments produce different yields). The licensed producers will remain the sole legal source of seeds and plants.

Health Canada officials said on Thursday that the licensed home-growers covered by the injunctions may continue producing the number of plants they currently grow – because processing all of the country’s medical marijuana users under the new system would swamp government officials.

“We would only seek to lift the injunction once we are confident that we could actually process the applications from individuals who are covered,” said Jacqueline Bogden, assistant deputy minister for the department’s cannabis legalization and regulation branch.

However, under the new rules, a dispensary may still be able to get marijuana illegally from these same growers and advertise that it has been tested by a Health Canada-approved lab.

However, Ms. Bogden said the dispensaries, storefronts and so-called compassion clubs that have proliferated in Canada’s major cities remain illegal.

“So, if you are an individual who requires access to medical cannabis today,” she said, “you can do that through one of the 34 licensed producers by Health Canada and you can be assured that what you are getting is produced in a safe and quality controlled manner.”

The Federal Court case that prompted the changes was launched by four B.C. patients who challenged the constitutionality of the former Conservative government’s 2014 overhaul of the medical marijuana system saying the commercial product was too expensive for them.

Kirk Tousaw, the Nanaimo-based lawyer who helped win their case, said the Liberal government has offered a “robust response” that is a big improvement from the past government’s responses to losing decisions on the file.

“I am very pleased that my well-earned pessimism and cynicism about the government’s medical cannabis actions have proven to be wrong with the new Liberal government,” he said.

But some of the licensed commercial producers – who grow their medical cannabis in large, secure facilities and mail it to about 60,000 patients – are not happy with the changes. Brent Zettl, the head of CanniMed Ltd., the first licensed commercial producer, called them a step backward for patients.

“There is no quality control, there is no inspection, there is no oversight,” he said. “So, at the end of the day you are going to ask yourself the question, well, you are granting them access to marijuana, but is it really medical?”

Colette Rivet, ‎the executive director of the Cannabis Canada Association, which represents commercial growers, said home-growing creates increased risks of fire and home invasion.

“There are also potential negative impacts on the neighbours, the landlords, local services and law enforcement,” Ms. Rivet said. “And, of course, the other thing is security clearances to make sure the home growers have no ties with organized crime would be a good consideration, because it has been related in the past.”

The Canadian Pharmacists Association said it is disappointed that the government missed an “important opportunity to improve patient access and safety” by not allowing its members to manage and dispense medical marijuana – although it is encouraged that Health Canada is considering that as a potential option.

And the organization that represents Toronto’s marijuana dispensaries said the new rules do not go far enough to ensure safe and reliable access to medical marijuana because of “unnecessary sign-up requirements, costly health care system involvement, and limited access to the variety of strains to those currently owned by licensed producers.”

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R.Raider

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Wonder how much testing will cost?

Either way I'm extremely happy to see things moving in this direction. Today was a good day.

 

doingdishes

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they said it's a quick fix so i wonder if they'll mess it up in a few months
but i am very happy we get to move gardens and/or DG's!!!!!!!
 

Medipuffs

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Under the new regime, which takes effect on Aug. 24, patients who consume a gram a day – about the average prescription, according to Health Canada – can expect to be allowed to grow about two plants outdoors or five indoors (the two environments produce different yields). The licensed producers will remain the sole legal source of seeds and plants.

a gram a day is only the average prescription because people wanted to become legal patients and using the MMPR is very restrictive financially, therefore I am confident patients were accessing dispensaries and black market to supplement their needs and using the prescription bottles to house other cannabis after the initial gram per day is consumed so that they would not be prosecuted should they have a run in with the law. Under MMAR it was something high like 17g/day.

Health Canada officials said on Thursday that the licensed home-growers covered by the injunctions may continue producing the number of plants they currently grow – because processing all of the country’s medical marijuana users under the new system would swamp government officials.


This is ridiculous. Think about this for a moment. Any other government service would not be understaffed to the point of unreliability but because we are a bunch of dope smoking hippies we don't need any support structure when it comes to our health care and lifestyle choices.

“There is no quality control, there is no inspection, there is no oversight,” he said. “So, at the end of the day you are going to ask yourself the question, well, you are granting them access to marijuana, but is it really medical?”


Fear mongering. Pathetically done fear mongering. Quality control is the patient knowing damn well if they grow adequate or inadequate cannabis in that they consume the substance and have the ability to know if they are receiving the relief they desire, the effect in which they seek. This isn't a nanny state, make work project. I don't need oversight or inspection and I damn well welcome the autonomy provided to me by the liberal government of Canada to take care of my own needs, in my own way and on my own terms.

This argument of medical vs recreational cannabis is absurd. The delineation of cannabis is found within the user themselves. i.e. if your sick and the flower provides relief its medical if your not its recreational. It the same false argument people propose for racial differentiation. We are all human, we are all of the same race but there are different ethnicities, which provide different aspects of the genetic spectrum of what the human race is capable of portraying.

“There are also potential negative impacts on the neighbours, the landlords, local services and law enforcement,” Ms. Rivet said. “And, of course, the other thing is security clearances to make sure the home growers have no ties with organized crime would be a good consideration, because it has been related in the past.”


This is once again fear mongering and nothing more. Every garden should have carbon filters but above and beyond that your consideration for your neighbours should be exactly what it would be like for anything else. Mind your own business and respect each others lifestyle choices. "Good fences make good neighbours" is a very accurate statement regardless of what social class you belong to.

Hide your key chains boys and girls :)

The police shouldn't care what your doing when its legally sanctioned by the government and your doctor, this is pure prohibitionist/war on drugs scare tactics. No crime, no punishment.

The Canadian Pharmacists Association said it is disappointed that the government missed an “important opportunity to improve patient access and safety” by not allowing its members to manage and dispense medical marijuana – although it is encouraged that Health Canada is considering that as a potential option.

Galen Weston can go smoke a dick, shoppers drug mart and Jean Coutu too. This was nothing more than a cash grab and they had no intention of ever respecting us or helping us before, so why give them the right now?

And the organization that represents Toronto’s marijuana dispensaries said the new rules do not go far enough to ensure safe and reliable access to medical marijuana because of “unnecessary sign-up requirements, costly health care system involvement, and limited access to the variety of strains to those currently owned by licensed producers.”

Anybody can grow now with the new ruling rendering this argument obsolete. If you want to be a patient, you sign up for the program. Remove the prohibitionist mentality and understand that cannabis is legal and you won't get into any trouble for consuming it medically (recreationally either but that's another story until next year). This under the table stuff is for the black market. Step into the sunshine and get out of the shadows, those days are over.
 

ispice

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Wonder how much testing will cost?

Either way I'm extremely happy to see things moving in this direction. Today was a good day.


From a Licensed lab on the island:

$85 for mold/bacteria-
Safety and stability for final products.
Incl: Total & Fecal Coliforms, E.coli, Yeast+Mold, Total Plate Count,
P. aeruginosa, S. aureus, Salmonella spp., Shigella spp.

$90 for potency
Basic Reporting Criteria –required on all final products
Incl: delta 9 THC, delta 9 THC-acid, CBD, CBN, % moisture

$150 for aflotoxins

$300 for pesticides

$120 for terps

$70 for metals

$70 for solvents

I'd really expect there to be some prices coming down with competition between labs.
 

bigmanc

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Thats odd, i heard yesterday all the labs across canada got injunctions not to accept marijuana outside the LP list. This came from the coalition although i could have heard wrong.
 

CannaReview

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From a Licensed lab on the island:

$85 for mold/bacteria-
Safety and stability for final products.
Incl: Total & Fecal Coliforms, E.coli, Yeast+Mold, Total Plate Count,
P. aeruginosa, S. aureus, Salmonella spp., Shigella spp.

$90 for potency
Basic Reporting Criteria –required on all final products
Incl: delta 9 THC, delta 9 THC-acid, CBD, CBN, % moisture

$150 for aflotoxins

$300 for pesticides

$120 for terps

$70 for metals

$70 for solvents

I'd really expect there to be some prices coming down with competition between labs.
Nope they are going to cash in. Now having a business is about making money so for that they should try to make as much as they can't except there's is a point of diminishing returns when you price yourself out of the market. Apple can do that with their hardware because people are stupid, labs can get away a lttiel since it a niche market BUT real medical users are not.

Pretty sure their pricing is to maybe cash in on dispensaries and larger growers.
 

GroErr

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If anyone finds a decent low cost lab for testing please post. I'm looking to get a couple of phenos tested, buddy of mine has a license and will send them in for me. Been wanting to have this service available for a while, would be nice for breeding, particularly some CBD strains as it's difficult to test or judge how much CBD is in the phenos. THC is pretty easy, just getting feedback is good enough for me, but CBD is more difficult.
 
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