Heavy cannabis use tied to strokes, researchers say but they have NO CLUE !!

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gb123

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they can SAY anything they wish..but its 100% BULLSHIT

Since my first stroke...They gave me rat poison...didnt work..kept on strokin :lol: not that kind Hippy ;)
Once I got on oil....no more strokes. Three in total. Couldn't write talk or read.
eating oil is whats made life bearable!
and from what I can see...has helped immensely over time.

pro II BS talk is what they are after here. Tryin to make people think its BAD..
Probably some large corp like Booze or Pharma behind this one
I Can turn the table though.. simply and easily.. lol


The two of them are responsible for millions of deaths every month!:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea:

CANNABIS ZERO!

Riddle me that one fuck wad...hope ya read your article here and see it for what its worth / ;)
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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gb123 said:
they can SAY anything they wish..but its 100% BULLSHIT

Since my first stroke...They gave me rat poison...didnt work..kept on strokin :lol: not that kind Hippy ;)
Once I got on oil....no more strokes. Three in total. Couldn't write talk or read.
eating oil is whats made life bearable!
and from what I can see...has helped immensely over time.

pro II BS talk is what they are after here. Tryin to make people think its BAD..
Probably some large corp like Booze or Pharma behind this one
I Can turn the table though.. simply and easily.. lol


The two of them are responsible for millions of deaths every month!:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea:

CANNABIS ZERO!

Riddle me that one fuck wad...hope ya read your article here and see it for what its worth / ;)
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You old fuckin stroker ya.........you still doing that uncontrollably. Like your mentor Harry Palms??

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dienowk

dienowk

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I question the quality of the study as cannabis neither decreases blood flow nor causes hemorrhaging.. Without either of those things happening how could one be stroking out due to cannabis ?

They are trying to claim it limits blood flow to the brain through narrowing of the arteries which is simply false, yes they narrow but both velocity and pressure increases even a month after use according to this https://www.aan.com/pressroom/home/pressrelease/250 which given the source I believe.
 
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shimz

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My BP actually spikes when on cannabis, and I can see it causing issues over time. Silent killer and all.

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shimz

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Def happens to me. I have to take 3 different meds. If I check BP before and after smoking (vaping), my systolic (high number) will go up at least 20 points, around +10 diastolic (the low one). Of course, YMMV.
 
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gb123

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shimz said:
BP does spike when on cannabis, I can see it causing issues over time. Silent killer and all.
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there should be hippies dying left right and center
THERE ISNT
so much for that thinking eh.. lol
what people think they can see and the way it is first hand are two different deals..
BP can spike..but other factors are what is causing the stroke.!!!:idea:
using POT as proof is complete nonsense :idea:
 
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gb123

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shimz said:
Def happens to me. I have to take 3 different meds. If I check BP before and after smoking (vaping), my systolic (high number) will go up at least 20 points, around +10 diastolic (the low one). Of course, YMMV.
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maybe trying looking into the MEDS yer taking and figure out a way to NOT TAKE THEM by eating properly or figuring out why you need pharma made crap to begin with..
A very good friend of mine has high blood pressure from being over weight..
takes 25 mgs of oil each night only and HE's GOLDEN ever since
NO MORE PB meds for him.
 
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shimz

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Man, not trying to cause a ruckus. Only relaying my personal experience. Not blaming the weed for my condition. I have gone off cannabis, alcohol, exercised regularly and switched to the D.A.S.H. diet last time I tried to kick the pharms. Result was I was still left with very high BP, like 170's/110's. My genes are not allowing normal BP under any conditions it seems. Now on metoprolol, amlodipene and HCTZ at medium doses and only get control down in the 150's/100's. I used to take benezepril, but had to go off that after 20+ years due to edemas. That was actually working. I monitor my BP carefully and I know that FOR ME, cannabis spikes my pressures. Of course, YMMV.
 
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gb123

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sorry for the way it may come across..just giving what I have seen as well..
and first hand experience from strokes..

try different strains that dont increase your BP
try ingesting it but SLOWLY less than 25 mgs a night only at first
 
zoic

zoic

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shimz said:
Man, not trying to cause a ruckus. Only relaying my personal experience. Not blaming the weed for my condition. I have gone off cannabis, alcohol, exercised regularly and switched to the D.A.S.H. diet last time I tried to kick the pharms. Result was I was still left with very high BP, like 170's/110's. My genes are not allowing normal BP under any conditions it seems. Now on metoprolol, amlodipene and HCTZ at medium doses and only get control down in the 150's/100's. I used to take benezepril, but had to go off that after 20+ years due to edemas. That was actually working. I monitor my BP carefully and I know that FOR ME, cannabis spikes my pressures. Of course, YMMV.
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No disrespect intended all around I am sure. When I read your post it reminded me of how not too long ago I was taking too many meds. The lead Dr at the MS clinic even wrote that in his official report, blaming that for his inability to make a confirmed diagnosis. I take NOTHING from Big Pharma anymore. Using cannabis has changed all that for me.

My wife still takes a lot of stuff for anxiety and other stuff. I has been a bumpy road for her especially when they change anything, so I understand the issues with trying to get off of the meds. I have a daily regiment of nutrients and my health is noticeably improved. If you can manage to quit pharma and replace it with good food, your high BP may correct itself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nutients+for+the+heart&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
 
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shimz

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Tough to eat in this 'merica we've created where convenience and price rules the day. I do try hard to stay away from fast food and restaurants in general. I have all but eliminated red meat and I'm very near normal weight. The D.A.S.H. program really opened my eyes to what it really takes to eat a BP healthy diet.

Lol, just realized this is the Canadian forum. Well, you guys got most of the same problems I'm sure.
 
zoic

zoic

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No worry, you can post anywhere you want to. It sounds like you are in front of the issue, though I do not understand where red meat plays out in this diet. I friggin thrive on red meat. it has all but eliminated my chronic fatigue. I am more leaning to a ketogenic diet with a few exceptions, like I am not giving up coffee.
 
TrainingPineapples

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fragileassassin said:
I hate going to the dr so I always smoke right before I go, always had great bp.
Is this a thing that happens to some?
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I see my treating doctor on a weekly basis for nerve blocks down my spinal column and get my bp taken before and after each treatment and my bp is always low

I burn constantly, generally I'm smoking a joint or two every couple hours so I am very skeptical about this report
 
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