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Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Heisenbeans said:
I think all.of the wifi people see that they love are out crosses off the 43.the jungle cake is supposed to be fire but honestly I would refrain from breeding with it cause it is just to hermie prone.

I'm sure there are some good ones out there that people are using and making it work for them but it's not worth my time for all the testing just to watch plants throw balls.
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I have the original, same seed stock that #43 was selected from purchased from raskal face to face.

I was fortunate enough to find a spectacular pheno that does not have those negative traits.
 
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whytewidow

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doniawon said:
Silly to think u can copyright nature
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The government can do whatever the fuck they want. If they wanna patent pot plants they will. If they wanna listen to every little thing in your home you dont want out. They will. If they want to kill you and make you disappear they will. And they have done all the above. And do it daily. So if you dont think pot can be patented youre silly.
 
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Tangerine_ said:
-You're so fuckin special - I wish I was special :blsmoke:

Walmart has some pretty damn good rib eyes. Smoked and seared a few over the weekend and I'll fully admit they were miles better than the local grocery store.

I suppose its about respect but from a consumer standpoint its more about being able to stay relevant for the long haul. Seedbanks are full the brim with "breeders" now and the only few to really make it are the ones who put the time and work in. The rest quickly fall by the wayside.
I don't really have the time or desire to dissect or debate the whole thing today (kinda beat) but if you pay close attention to the ones who "made it" they had several key elements in their favor before they got started.


One a more positive note, I'm a little excited to see what 2019 brings to everyone's gardens. Feels like it might a yr of "pastries" round some these parts :eyesmoke:
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We need to get you a real good cut of meat, walmart has the worst quality meat of all the big chain grocery stores.
 
Stiickygreen

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Heisenbeans said:
Cherry cream pie throws nuts. Some say there sterile but the same dude I got my mac from said it definitely throws balls. Be on the lookout if that was in fact made with the real ccp.
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I had the Cherry Pie cut herm on me outdoors 3 seasons ago after running it inside a handful of cycles with no problem. After that experience, I was amazed to see folks making crosses with it....but it is what it is. I ran 'rado's Sugarberry Scone 2X that has it in it...and no problems...but I heard him say (High Times interview?) that the GP (because of the CP) was prone...and he was moving on....then he turned around and made all the GP reg crosses. Time will tell....
 
whitebb2727

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Tangerine_ said:
Not the "strain" just the name. I'm sure it'll help him with his merch.
He's a little late though. WIFI OG, GG4, and GSC have been selfed so many times its impossible to know what you have unless you get it direct from the breeders hands...and even then, mistakes have been known to happen. cough>Chemdog<cough

Others may not agree but selfing someone elses line for profit is shitty. Sellers need to do their own outcrosses if they want to be relevant and maintain any kind of integrity.
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I don't agree. When you buy heirloom seeds that's what you are buying. Someone's elses works. They've been worked stable for many generations. That's what makes it heirloom.

I think as long as the seller is upfront with what they are doing it's fine.

Look at it this way. Why is it ok for dispensaries to sell cuts but not for someone to sell s1 seeds?

To top it off there is so much confusion when it comes to lineage of hype cuts how is the average Joe supposed to know who the original breeder is?
 
genuity

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whitebb2727 said:
I don't agree. When you buy heirloom seeds that's what you are buying. Someone's elses works. They've been worked stable for many generations. That's what makes it heirloom.

I think as long as the seller is upfront with what they are doing it's fine.

Look at it this way. Why is it ok for dispensaries to sell cuts but not for someone to sell s1 seeds?

To top it off there is so much confusion when it comes to lineage of hype cuts how is the average Joe supposed to know who the original breeder is?
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S1s are not cuts...

& I have not seen any s1s put out exact cut/mom plants...

S1s will put out a wide range of plants,that will not match up to the "clone only" & then them cuts get passed around & I hope you know the rest of the storyline. .
That's what gets some upset..

I myself just get cuts,non med state...way to easy,from reliable sources (first class genetics)

Nothing wrong with s1s,just don't grow them thinking they will all represent the mom..to a T
 
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genuity said:
S1s are not cuts...

& I have not seen any s1s put out exact cut/mom plants...

S1s will put out a wide range of plants,that will not match up to the "clone only" & then them cuts get passed around & I hope you know the rest of the storyline. .
That's what gets some upset..

I myself just get cuts,non med state...way to easy,from reliable sources (first class genetics)

Nothing wrong with s1s,just don't grow them thinking they will all represent the mom..to a T
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I never said s1 would be like the mom. Still the same in sales principal. If your selling cuts your selling someone else's work. Though they may not match the mom they will perform similar to f1. Fairly uniform. F2 is where the most phenos pop.

Pretty much all cannabis strains were someone else's work.

I get what you mean by cuts of s1 being passed around.

In this instance I don't think the man is wrong. He is upfront about what he is doing.
 
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whitebb2727 said:
I don't agree. When you buy heirloom seeds that's what you are buying. Someone's elses works. They've been worked stable for many generations. That's what makes it heirloom.

I think as long as the seller is upfront with what they are doing it's fine.

Look at it this way. Why is it ok for dispensaries to sell cuts but not for someone to sell s1 seeds?

To top it off there is so much confusion when it comes to lineage of hype cuts how is the average Joe supposed to know who the original breeder is?
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And adding more S1s to the pool causes even more confusion. Cuts of the original work =/= S1s. And sourcing cuts can and should involve a little work to ensure you're getting the real deal if you plan to sell them on the market.

Time is running out anyway. It wont be long and the suits will take over.


I edited/cut my post. It sounded kinda...bitchy, lol
 
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