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Heathen Raider

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gtg. got real life to do. came on here with no illwill towards any of you. but this is the spawning grounds of the "show". had to expect something. just so disgusting how everyone comes to aid their new baby jesus. god forbid someone should offer another opinion. about someone they know and witnessed treat everyone around them terribly for years. most of what i said will be lost on you all, ive spent more time defending my simple request to check on your psycho daddy than anything. cheers doodz. really quite a camp youve got here. made of cardboard and duct tape.
This is a chick , I guarantee it , I feel dirty even coming back here and being within taint smell range , think I'll leave
 

growingforfun

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Basically he is a pollen chucking scammer. He was called out for it by dozens of long time members and had to run away to his private forum where he can control the feedback.

The people calling him out are not trolls. We are trying to save fellow growers from wasting money and supporting people who detract from the community.
 

V256.420

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Basically he is a pollen chucking scammer. He was called out for it by dozens of long time members and had to run away to his private forum where he can control the feedback.

The people calling him out are not trolls. We are trying to save fellow growers from wasting money and supporting people who detract from the community.
Good for you I say!! Here are some smileys just for you :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::blsmoke::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

growingforfun

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Good for you I say!! Here are some smileys just for you :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::blsmoke::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
People like you who gave been here 3 months havent had the experiance to see 1000 people like him come and go... but it's happened a lot and will happen a lot more. Your welcome to ignore the advise of those that have been here for years. Thats your call. But when we see pollen chuckers trying to take advantage of noobs it's worth our time to call em out on it. That's why he had to leave. It wasnt just one of us. It wasnt just ten of us. It was dozens of us calling him out.
 

Mr.Head

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I am curious about what specifically makes you believe that Heisen is taking advantage of us poor folks...?
it's just more nonsensical bullshit. He's one of Antonio Verde's buddies, out to save the Cannabis Community from growing seeds from people they don't like one forum post at a time.

This shit's getting pathetic.

You'd think actively trying to get threads shut down so people can't share their experiences good or bad would be a negative thing for the community they want to die on their shield protecting... but again it's cool to act a fool as long as you don't like the guy...

If he's everything they say he is then the best thing for them would be to step back and let the information be posted, but instead they repeatedly try and get this thread locked by doing the same thing that got the last one locked.... but they aren't trolling, they are just trying to protect the COMMUNITY OF NOOBS. lol
 

growingforfun

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it's just more nonsensical bullshit. He's one of Antonio Verde's buddies, out to save the Cannabis Community from growing seeds from people they don't like one forum post at a time.

This shit's getting pathetic.

You'd think actively trying to get threads shut down so people can't share their experiences good or bad would be a negative thing for the community they want to die on their shield protecting... but again it's cool to act a fool as long as you don't like the guy...

If he's everything they say he is then the best thing for them would be to step back and let the information be posted, but instead they repeatedly try and get this thread locked by doing the same thing that got the last one locked.... but they aren't trolling, they are just trying to protect the COMMUNITY OF NOOBS. lol
I'm actually thrilled to see the information get posted. I'm going to be popping the popcorn myself. Everything I've seen in photos has been a joke.
 

Mr.Head

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I'm actually thrilled to see the information get posted. I'm going to be popping the popcorn myself. Everything I've seen in photos has been a joke.
Seedlings? Because there's like 3 guys that got the first round of seeds and the rest were just received by folks last week. This is all well documented.

I just don't understand why yall care if people grow seeds from him. Like what's the big deal? If they are shit the folks that grow them will let everyone know and that will be that... this all comes across like yall are afraid that if people grow them you'll be proven wrong with your overly emotional nonsense.

He's got the cuts he says... that's better than say Soma who's been selling seeds forever... or CropKing who's seeds don't even germinate.

If you have legitimate concerns list them lets have an honest discussion, I'm pretty open minded, I haven't really got an opinion of the guy... but coming in here saying "He doesn't know his PPM" is quite literally fucking retarded...you think a guy that runs Hydro hasn't tested his solutions PPM? he doesn't want to release it as others have issues reversing the strains where he's had success lol.
 

growingforfun

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Seedlings? Because there's like 3 guys that got the first round of seeds and the rest were just received by folks last week. This is all well documented.

I just don't understand why yall care if people grow seeds from him. Like what's the big deal? If they are shit the folks that grow them will let everyone know and that will be that... this all comes across like yall are afraid that if people grow them you'll be proven wrong with your overly emotional nonsense.

He's got the cuts he says... that's better than say Soma who's been selling seeds forever... or CropKing who's seeds don't even germinate.

If you have legitimate concerns list them lets have an honest discussion, I'm pretty open minded, I haven't really got an opinion of the guy... but coming in here saying "He doesn't know his PPM" is quite literally fucking retarded...you think a guy that runs Hydro hasn't tested his solutions PPM? he doesn't want to release it as others have issues reversing the strains where he's had success lol.
I did list them. In the original thread. Lots of people have. Your welcome to jump on the hype train, I'm simply posting my opinion and I'm going to remember the retarded fanboys when this is over. Enjoy your mediocre seeds.
 

Mr.Head

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I did list them. In the original thread. Lots of people have. Your welcome to jump on the hype train, I'm simply posting my opinion and I'm going to remember the retarded fanboys when this is over. Enjoy your mediocre seeds.
Bro... you're getting awfully hostile for someone just looking for answers.

I keep hearing the same thing, but it's all from the same group of folks. The old thread was deleted I think... so what's the deal? Let's hear it.

Calling me a retarded fanboy when I'm just simply asking what he's doing that's so wrong is kinda proving my earlier point about you being overly emotional about all of this.

You are a little bit correct though... I am afraid that pollen chuckers will become the norm. I want the quality to increase not decrease. I dont care who is doing the work but S1's arnt work. That's bullshit cash grabbing from retards.
So your issue is more a business ethics issue rather than an issue with his technique or growing ability. Ok. We're getting somewhere.

What would you say is the norm? People have been S1'ing everything Popular since I started growing Cannabis in 2011, I'm sure they were doing it long before I started growing Cannabis and I'm sure they'll do it long after... this isn't new. Barney's Farm and Greenhouse probably move more seeds than anyone wouldn't that make them the norm?

Heck look at Archive arguing with In House Genetics over Slurricane everyones fighting over money... nothing else, people have been fighting over everything popular forever trying to claim ownership.

He has the cuts, they are his, if he can market the seeds well who are you to say he can't profit from that?

Saying certain folks can have and work with certain things is hording, this isn't making things better... it's limiting who's allowed to work with what and creating a lesser # of possible outcomes towards what we all want... better weed...
 
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klx

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You are a little bit correct though... I am afraid that pollen chuckers will become the norm. I want the quality to increase not decrease. I dont care who is doing the work but S1's arnt work. That's bullshit cash grabbing from retards.
So you are calling Matt Riot, CSI Humboldt, Useful, Mass Medical Strains etc retards?

Dont be mad bro, maybe one day you will get some cuts too.
 
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