++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

drgreentm

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Just wondering how the medium perlight worked out for you? HR I know you use graudan or rockwoll flock. Just courius what is the best and most bang for your buck? I can get perlight from Stians for about 10 bucks for a 40 gallon bag. I think I would still run my mums in the RW flock though.

Thank,
the run in perlite is currently 2 weeks in 12/12 and are looking very good. Hydroton has its place in DWC and other types of hydro but I will say I'm happy to see the hydroton gone from my life. Perlite is cheap, light, disposable and readily available, everything that makes for a great disposable medium.
 

Land

Member
the run in perlite is currently 2 weeks in 12/12 and are looking very good. Hydroton has its place in DWC and other types of hydro but I will say I'm happy to see the hydroton gone from my life. Perlite is cheap, light, disposable and readily available, everything that makes for a great disposable medium.
How often do you flood and how deep? Or are you on a drip top feed system like HR said he would try?

Thinks
 

drgreentm

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How often do you flood and how deep? Or are you on a drip top feed system like HR said he would try?

Thinks
I'm using fabric inserts with my system so the perlite doesn't fall into the lower buckets, running flood and drain flooding as deep as the system allows for and watering 3x in a 12 hour periode, roots are well beyond the upper buckets and into the lowers at this point.
 

Land

Member
I'm using fabric inserts with my system so the perlite doesn't fall into the lower buckets, running flood and drain flooding as deep as the system allows for and watering 3x in a 12 hour periode, roots are well beyond the upper buckets and into the lowers at this point.
Thanks, d

Could you be more specific on the fabric you use? I was just going to stuff rockwoll flock in the bottom of my pots. And if you were to guess, how deep does your system let you flood? I'm running tables so I could flood up to 5" if I need to.

Thanks, Land
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Every time I try to use some sort of semi organic beneficial whatsamajiggle, I get crap in my rez.
Geting a bio mass isnt bad its just what your bennys are leaving! Look for nice roots and clear wAter. The gunk will
go to the bottom of the res, and can be cleaned later. Its important to control temps to slow the bad bactiria and
allow your tea to work.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
HR,

Have you used any type of sweetener product recently that you've liked?
In a ebb and grow i dont not a good idea! Bad bactiria outbreaks. In a ebb and flow it seems to be ok
but i dont believe it adds to the yields, your call on that on bro!
 

hornedfrog2000

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The bacteria will feed on the the carbs (sugar), but if you just dump it into your res willy nilly it can feed the bad bacteria as well. Tea makes sense, but how much sense is up to you. If you make a good bacteria tea and feed that outside of your res it can make sense, but don't just dump food for bacteria into an uncontrolled environment (your res). imo.
 

drgreentm

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Thanks, d

Could you be more specific on the fabric you use? I was just going to stuff rockwoll flock in the bottom of my pots. And if you were to guess, how deep does your system let you flood? I'm running tables so I could flood up to 5" if I need to.

Thanks, Land
Simply put, the insert is just a custom smart pot for the flo n grow system. If using a flood tray I would simply use smart pots filled with perlite all the way through, perlite wicks very well so believe me flood depth will not be a issue. My pots are roughly 11" tall and I flooded them in a 5" deep flood tray and they where wet up to the top lol.
 

Land

Member
Simply put, the insert is just a custom smart pot for the flo n grow system. If using a flood tray I would simply use smart pots filled with perlite all the way through, perlite wicks very well so believe me flood depth will not be a issue. My pots are roughly 11" tall and I flooded them in a 5" deep flood tray and they where wet up to the top lol.

Thanks, D

I already bought 150 4x4x6" square pots though. Lol guess I'll try the old Rockwoll at the bottom or maybe my exs old nylons wraped around the bottom held with a rubber band or something. I just don't see how medium can get any cheaper then ten buck and I don't have to drive 50 miles to get it ether.
 

akpaco

Active Member
In a ebb and grow i dont not a good idea! Bad bactiria outbreaks. In a ebb and flow it seems to be ok
but i dont believe it adds to the yields, your call on that on bro!
Sounds good! One of the best grows I've had recently was with nothing other then the 3 part,calmag and aquashield. And I had some of the frostiest buds ever. Going to stick with what works! Just was wondering if you came across anything that was stable. Thanks as always!
 

BCBuddy420

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Hey guys :) This is to the OP or anyone, much appreciated. Alot of you guys seem to be quite knowledgeable in hydroponics whereas I am not! Never tried it :? I am humbly asking for a few pointers? I have a plan design of a pvc tube system grow (have done a fair bit of homework) with net pots and a steady current, if you will, of nutrient solution pumped through and back to the rez. Once clones root sufficiently they will go straight to flowering in this setup, no veg. From experience what would be the biggest issues to watch out for? Here's what I would put to practice without any help; EC will sit around 1.0-1.4 never exceeding that. PPM will be around 800-900ish. The solution needs changing every week due to salt buildups, just like flushing my soilless medium. Water must be aerated for DO, using air stones. Solution level is kept on the cooler side and just touching the bottom of the net pots. Ok that's about what I know for now. I would like to know if there's any major issues to watch out for... kiss-ass
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hey guys :) This is to the OP or anyone, much appreciated. Alot of you guys seem to be quite knowledgeable in hydroponics whereas I am not! Never tried it :? I am humbly asking for a few pointers? I have a plan design of a pvc tube system grow (have done a fair bit of homework) with net pots and a steady current, if you will, of nutrient solution pumped through and back to the rez. Once clones root sufficiently they will go straight to flowering in this setup, no veg. From experience what would be the biggest issues to watch out for? Here's what I would put to practice without any help; EC will sit around 1.0-1.4 never exceeding that. PPM will be around 800-900ish. The solution needs changing every week due to salt buildups, just like flushing my soilless medium. Water must be aerated for DO, using air stones. Solution level is kept on the cooler side and just touching the bottom of the net pots. Ok that's about what I know for now. I would like to know if there's any major issues to watch out for... kiss-ass
Sounds like nft! Biggest thing is water temp! 2nd would be nute levels keep it low!
As nft does work well its not my flav! Done and wont do it again. But i still will help
as much as i can.
 
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