Help.. droopy plant.. day 30 of veg. Do you see anything wrong?

NoHo said:

I had a plant that died months ago, I bought the medium at a nursery, but I don’t remember what kind ...

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Well this is a first? ..if you really don't know you should find out because it's going to make a big difference, good luck.

H.A.F. said:

Depending on the size of your plant, you can put a dome over it (like a 2-liter bottle) and spray the inside of the dome to raise the humidity, just make sure there are some hole for ventilation.

In soil, you may also be 'locking out' some nutes. On your list it showed you watering in the 5-6 pH range. In soil 6.5 is optimum to allow the plant to absorb nutrients better. Some will not be absorbed if the pH is too low, others if it is too high.

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Ty for your replay

Beachwalker said:

Well this is a first? ..if you really don't know you should find out because it's going to make a big difference, good luck.

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If I only knew how..lol. Ty for the info.

This is a train wreck of a thread .
Amazed at all the incorrect answers .
Opie or Op, the first thing you need to do, IS START OVER.
Not knowing what your growing medium is, is a sure fire recipe for failure...
First thing first, purchase a bag of fox farm ocean forrest soil .
Remove the rootball from old pot, make a 1 inch incision on all 4 sides, and replant in a 3 Gal pot .
Water it only, with weekly feedings of +life or something similar .
Up pot it again when you flip it to 12/12 and put it in 5 gal pot .
Dont worry about the rh, its fine from 30 to 75%
If we were dialing in your room, then yes we would be specific, and shoot for 70%
But that precision is not needed right off the bat.
Shit you got to learn when to water before you worry about your growing conditions .
Water till runoff every 3 or 4 days...

The reason your plant is droopy, is your over watering it, and its creating a mess in the rizophere, lack of 02, and perfect conditions for pythium. And that changes the ph, which in return causes lockout..
The first 2 nutrients effected are Ca and mg and thats why you have purple stems .

Homie Da Clown said:

This is a train wreck of a thread .
Amazed at all the incorrect answers .
Opie or Op, the first thing you need to do, IS START OVER.
Not knowing what your growing medium is, is a sure fire recipe for failure...
First thing first, purchase a bag of fox farm ocean forrest soil .
Remove the rootball from old pot, make a 1 inch incision on all 4 sides, and replant in a 3 Gal pot .
Water it only, with weekly feedings of +life or something similar .
Up pot it again when you flip it to 12/12 and put it in 5 gal pot .
Dont worry about the rh, its fine from 30 to 75%
If we were dialing in your room, then yes we would be specific, and shoot for 70%
But that precision is not needed right off the bat.
Shit you got to learn when to water before you worry about your growing conditions .
Water till runoff every 3 or 4 days...

The reason your plant is droopy, is your over watering it, and its creating a mess in the rizophere, lack of 02, and perfect conditions for pythium. And that changes the ph, which in return causes lockout..
The first 2 nutrients effected are Ca and mg and thats why you have purple stems .

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First off, THANK you for the thought you put in to this, I gonna follow your advice w/ the exception that I already got pro-mix HP with
mycorrhizae.
I appreciate the long and detailed solution

Homie Da Clown said:

This is a train wreck of a thread .
yup

First thing first, purchase a bag of fox farm ocean forrest soil .

-have you tried FF "Happy Frog"? much better. Not as hot, and it had mico's and stuff added The 'Lucky Dog' is good as well, but reallt light, almost like a soilless mix but not quite. After trying both I now use the FFHF for the bottom of the pot and the FFLD for the top.

Remove the rootball from old pot, make a 1 inch incision on all 4 sides, and replant in a 3 Gal pot .
Water it only, with weekly feedings of +life or something similar .
Up pot it again when you flip it to 12/12 and put it in 5 gal pot .

-For an admitted newb, go straight to the 5 gallon, and get a fabric pot. I would also say to wait and use the internet resources available and READ!
Many of the growers with 'tricks' learned them by understanding the basics. Sometimes you need to master those basics before moving on.

Dont worry about the rh, its fine from 30 to 75%
If we were dialing in your room, then yes we would be specific, and shoot for 70%
But that precision is not needed right off the bat.
Shit you got to learn when to water before you worry about your growing conditions .
Water till runoff every 3 or 4 days...

-Agreed! Also, I have not seen a flush mentioned if there is mucho salt build-up. I don't think it should be an issue after 3 feedings but who knows.

The reason your plant is droopy, is your over watering it,
-DING DING DING! we have a winner! LOL.

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Hope this doesn't offend. It was easier to address different comments this way - my comments are in italics

H.A.F. said:

Hope this doesn't offend. It was easier to address different comments this way - my comments are in italics

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On the contrary, I’m learning from each one of you guys and I’m very appreciative of that

NoHo said:

On the contrary, I’m learning from each one of you guys and I’m very appreciative of that

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Yes, but we can only answer the questions you know to ask, and usually those crop n up when there are issues. There's not a lot to it, but the fundamentals for each particular growing type are essential. Half of the people answering your questions didn't even know the growing medium. Not bashing them, but it's one of the primary determining factors on everything else. This shows the different basic requirements for each:

You can see the difference. But this is all you need to know really about the pH. It's the same for other things, different soils, lights, etc. The ProMix is a good choice, so kudos.

A good resource on youtube is Chef Derek Butts (medical grower). He has videos covering everything if you don't like reading.

Oh, and cloth/fabric/felt or whatever pots are the best for preventing over watering.

H.A.F. said:

Yes, but we can only answer the questions you know to ask, and usually those crop n up when there are issues. There's not a lot to it, but the fundamentals for each particular growing type are essential. Half of the people answering your questions didn't even know the growing medium. Not bashing them, but it's one of the primary determining factors on everything else. This shows the different basic requirements for each:
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You can see the difference. But this is all you need to know really about the pH. It's the same for other things, different soils, lights, etc. The ProMix is a good choice, so kudos.

A good resource on youtube is Chef Derek Butts (medical grower). He has videos covering everything if you don't like reading.

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Your intake is very helpful for me, thank you very much for educating me a little bit more

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NoHo said:

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Ty for the great info !
By the way ...what is a flush w/ nute. Solution ? (See attached pic. )
I thought it was done with Ph’d distilled water ..X3 the pot size..

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Depends on the reason for the flush. If you are trying to starve the plant then flush with ro water. If you are just trying to remove built up salt flush with your nute solution. This will help remove built up salts and leave the plant with plenty of food when the build up is gone.

Dynamo626 said:

Depends on the reason for the flush. If you are trying to starve the plant then flush with ro water. If you are just trying to remove built up salt flush with your nute solution. This will help remove built up salts and leave the plant with plenty of food when the build up is gone.

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You can also flush - then feed. Especially at the flip when you need to get rid of some nutes and push others. just flush wit R/O or distilled, then feed with just a half gallon or so a little later that same day. If you have good drainage, it changes nothing, since the pot was soaked anyway.

I'm planning to flush with the" GH" nute. solution and then transplant to a 3 Gallon black plastic pot.
Also, i'm gonna replace my light (1000W "blurple" to a 315W CMH fixture W/ a 3000K full phase BY growers choice.
Specifications
Power 2.9A(120v)/1.5A(240v)
Voltage Range 120v-240v
Flowering Footprint 2.5' X 3'
Veg Footprint 3.5' X 4'
Flower Canopy Distance 10"-12"
Vegetative Canopy Distance 16"-20"
Power Output Setting 190W/245W/315W/350W
Product Dimensions 17"x8"x7", 12 lbs

($280.50 including shipping)

Homie Da Clown said:

This is a train wreck of a thread .
Amazed at all the incorrect answers .
Opie or Op, the first thing you need to do, IS START OVER.
Not knowing what your growing medium is, is a sure fire recipe for failure...
First thing first, purchase a bag of fox farm ocean forrest soil .
Remove the rootball from old pot, make a 1 inch incision on all 4 sides, and replant in a 3 Gal pot .
Water it only, with weekly feedings of +life or something similar .
Up pot it again when you flip it to 12/12 and put it in 5 gal pot .
Dont worry about the rh, its fine from 30 to 75%
If we were dialing in your room, then yes we would be specific, and shoot for 70%
But that precision is not needed right off the bat.
Shit you got to learn when to water before you worry about your growing conditions .
Water till runoff every 3 or 4 days...

The reason your plant is droopy, is your over watering it, and its creating a mess in the rizophere, lack of 02, and perfect conditions for pythium. And that changes the ph, which in return causes lockout..
The first 2 nutrients effected are Ca and mg and thats why you have purple stems .

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how can you possibly determine when he should water.... that's a train wreck comment right there. OP water when they need it not in a set amount of days. They def over watered.

IMO...a better product to flush with is SLF100. General hydroponics kinda sucks.

NoHo said:

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Ty for the great info !
By the way ...what is a flush w/ nute. Solution ? (See attached pic. )
I thought it was done with Ph’d distilled water ..X3 the pot size..

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H.A.F. said:

Hope this doesn't offend. It was easier to address different comments this way - my comments are in italics

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I have used happy frog and rec that for starrting seedlings out.
But these are already growing...
The reason we dont jump to 5 gal is because when we start with smaller pots we can lead the roots.. Fabric pots are all right esp for newbs in coco .

I de

NoHo said:

I'm planning to flush with the" GH" nute. solution and then transplant to a 3 Gallon black plastic pot.
Also, i'm gonna replace my light (1000W "blurple" to a 315W CMH fixture W/ a 3000K full phase BY growers choice.
Specifications
Power 2.9A(120v)/1.5A(240v)
Voltage Range 120v-240v
Flowering Footprint 2.5' X 3'
Veg Footprint 3.5' X 4'
Flower Canopy Distance 10"-12"
Vegetative Canopy Distance 16"-20"
Power Output Setting 190W/245W/315W/350W
Product Dimensions 17"x8"x7", 12 lbs

($280.50 including shipping)

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I def rec you trading that blurple in for a cmh .use the phillips bulb tho.
You want tp let your median dry down to push the roots to spread out looking for water . its a balance.. The smaller the plant them the smaller the pot so dry down happens quicker .

jtrizzy said:

how can you possibly determine when he should water.... that's a train wreck comment right there. OP water when they need it not in a set amount of days. They def over watered.

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Well let me tell you how i came to that conclusion .
So number 1 I can see that they are over watered from the pics..
#2 its the first mistake all newbies make..
#3 that hunk of junk led doesnt put out no light and no heat.. So less dry down .
#4 rh is 50% or higher which also would slow dry down..

So i told him 3 or 4 days BECAUSR he needs a good dry down so that we can reset the median...
I would actually let them go untill i started to see some droop from lack of water then o would water with my beenies...
And since your in soil, i would brew your beenies and feed once a week with my brewed beenies...

Actually i would toss soil in the garbage, its about the most boring way to grow..
Jump to coco, build a dtw setup.. Get an ro filter...
Are grow in rockwool which has awesome growth..
I actually run a current culture UC system . That is an rdwc unit....

rsvp_gardens said:

It looks like it could be over-watering in my opinion. Wait til the pots are like scary light without drooping leaves before you water again.

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Ty for the advice !
Last feed was on 1/13 and the pot is aprox. 10 lbs. VS. 15.4 lbs. when I fed it, but I still got droopy leaves, so I guess I’ll to wait a bit more...